Vinny Del Negro being highly concidered for the TWolves Headcoaching job.

[Kane3387]

His teams have been successful. Getting to the playoffs etc. and he was ousted so teams could hire thibs and doc.

Lol he just seems to get a bad rap. Maybe it's the hair.

[RJ87]

I think Vinny gets a tough rap - he's definitely not a championship caliber coach but if your only goal is to reach the playoffs, he's not a bad guy to have. He seems to be able to manage young superstars (Derrick Rose and Blake Griffin) and he usually gets his team to buy in. I think if you're a team trying to get over the playoff hump - like the Cavs - he's not a bad fit. Now, if you're trying to convince a superstar to stick around - like the Wolves with Kevin Love - you should probably be aiming a bit higher.

Somewhat off topic, but I'm surprised the Cavs aren't going hard after George Karl.

[Finkelskyhook]

I think Vinny gets a tough rap - he's definitely not a championship caliber coach but if your only goal is to reach the playoffs, he's not a bad guy to have. He seems to be able to manage young superstars (Derrick Rose and Blake Griffin) and he usually gets his team to buy in. I think if you're a team trying to get over the playoff hump - like the Cavs - he's not a bad fit. Now, if you're trying to convince a superstar to stick around - like the Wolves with Kevin Love - you should probably be aiming a bit higher.

Somewhat off topic, but I'm surprised the Cavs aren't going hard after George Karl.

I've got to believe Karl's health....Perceived or otherwise....Might be holding suitors back.

[Finkelskyhook]

I think Vinny gets a tough rap - he's definitely not a championship caliber coach but if your only goal is to reach the playoffs, he's not a bad guy to have. He seems to be able to manage young superstars (Derrick Rose and Blake Griffin) and he usually gets his team to buy in. I think if you're a team trying to get over the playoff hump - like the Cavs - he's not a bad fit. Now, if you're trying to convince a superstar to stick around - like the Wolves with Kevin Love - you should probably be aiming a bit higher.

Somewhat off topic, but I'm surprised the Cavs aren't going hard after George Karl.

I don't know how much higher they can afford to aim.  They have a very exciting team to watch.  Yet their arena is half full a lot of the time.   Their promos almost giving away tickets speak to their attendance issues. 

[moiso]

Karl is interested in the Wolves job.  He deserves a better job than that in my opinion.

[Smitty77]

I would literally hire Tim Donaghy over Vinny Del Negro

Why the Vinny hate???  He has a 53.3% winning percentage in five years.  He was .500 or better in 4 of his 5 years and he won 56 games with the Clippers year before last.  Yes, George Karl has over a 59% winning percentage, but his winning percentage in his first FIVE years was around 44%.  I am math challenged, but that means that Vinny has almost a !0% advantage on Karl.  Also, what exactly is Karl's playoff winning percentage??  43.2%!!  Not very good.  And his playoff winning % in his first 5 years was 36.3, slightly better than Vinny's 34.5%.

Is Vinny really horrible and IF you believe that, rationally explain it to me and everyone else.

Smitty77

[Smitty77]

I do not understand the interest in VDN. Unless a front office is looking for a captain for the Titanic, I'm not sure why he's on anyone's list.

I'm not understanding how Del Negro is such a horrible coach.  The Clippers...With a much better supporting cast...Didn't look markedly better this year than last.  I saw a few Clips games last year and didn't see Del Negro getting outcoached.

LAC paid a gazillion dollars to Rivers to get a better team barely one round further.  Apparently Rivers shouldn't be on anyone's list either.

I know you're no fan of Doc Rivers, but this is an absurd post.

In what way?  I find the commentary on Del Negro more absurd.  If Del Negro had the roster Rivers had he'd have gotten just as far as Rivers did....Maybe further....Because he would've been focused on his team instead of the media after the Sterling fiasco.

Del Negro is a nice dude -- he's very similar to Mike Brown, in that way. He's great at handling locker room personalities in low-key situations, like the Clippers before Chris Paul, and generally keeping things upbeat on do-nothing teams.

There are, however, very real reasons why he's only been able to coach a team to a winning record once. And there's also an easy explanation why the Bulls jumped from 41 wins under VDN to 62 wins under Thibs, and it wasn't all Derrick Rose finding himself.

I could have sworn that Vinny won 61% in 2011-2012 and 68% in 2012-2013.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/delnevi01c.html

Also, these were the NEW players on the Bulls in 2010-2011, the year AFTER Vinny:

Carlos Boozer (17.5 points and 9.6 rebounds)
Kyle Korver (8.3 points per on 41.5% from three)
Ronnie Brewer
Keith Bogans
John Lucas
Omar Asik
CJ Watson
Kurt Thomas (don't laugh, he averaged 6 rebounds per game in less than 23 minutes per)
Scal (the difference maker:-))

That is NINE new players.  BUT, it was ALL the coaching change, right??:-))))  Come on, we are better than this on this board!!!

Smitty77

[LooseCannon]

I am always reminded of this quote by Brian Scalabrine on how Kenyon Martin would work out as a Celtic, given the trouble he was a part of with the Clippers:

Last year, he had a problem in L.A., but he was playing for Vinny Del Negro. I can understand why he would be ?disrepectful? in the locker room or maybe he wouldn?t do what the coach wanted him to do.

[Future Celtics Owner]

I feel like coaching in the nba is a lot like musical chairs. You get my point.

[MBunge]

Reputation is huge in the NBA.  You see it when players go harder against a guy known as a bad defender or when refs give a superstar the benefit of the doubt.  VDN is no worse than an average NBA coach but that doesn't matter compared to his reputation.

Mike

[D.o.s.]

I do not understand the interest in VDN. Unless a front office is looking for a captain for the Titanic, I'm not sure why he's on anyone's list.

I'm not understanding how Del Negro is such a horrible coach.  The Clippers...With a much better supporting cast...Didn't look markedly better this year than last.  I saw a few Clips games last year and didn't see Del Negro getting outcoached.

LAC paid a gazillion dollars to Rivers to get a better team barely one round further.  Apparently Rivers shouldn't be on anyone's list either.

I know you're no fan of Doc Rivers, but this is an absurd post.

In what way?  I find the commentary on Del Negro more absurd.  If Del Negro had the roster Rivers had he'd have gotten just as far as Rivers did....Maybe further....Because he would've been focused on his team instead of the media after the Sterling fiasco.

Del Negro is a nice dude -- he's very similar to Mike Brown, in that way. He's great at handling locker room personalities in low-key situations, like the Clippers before Chris Paul, and generally keeping things upbeat on do-nothing teams.

There are, however, very real reasons why he's only been able to coach a team to a winning record once. And there's also an easy explanation why the Bulls jumped from 41 wins under VDN to 62 wins under Thibs, and it wasn't all Derrick Rose finding himself.

I could have sworn that Vinny won 61% in 2011-2012 and 68% in 2012-2013.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/delnevi01c.html

Also, these were the NEW players on the Bulls in 2010-2011, the year AFTER Vinny:

Carlos Boozer (17.5 points and 9.6 rebounds)
Kyle Korver (8.3 points per on 41.5% from three)
Ronnie Brewer
Keith Bogans
John Lucas
Omar Asik
CJ Watson
Kurt Thomas (don't laugh, he averaged 6 rebounds per game in less than 23 minutes per)
Scal (the difference maker:-))

That is NINE new players.  BUT, it was ALL the coaching change, right??:-))))  Come on, we are better than this on this board!!!

Smitty77

You're right, I spaced on the fact that '12 was the lockout season -- saw 40 wins and assumed it was out of 82. Two winning seasons when he was able to hand Chris Paul (who has a career record of 367-250 and is arguably the best point guard in the game) the reigns and say "go Chris, win games."

If we're talking about rising above the silly... you don't really think Carlos Boozer, Asik, and Kyle Korver (plus assorted bench friends) were where the 20 win swing came from?