Let's assume we do get Love

[CoachBo]

If these improvements are made this year, than it is likely that a trade for Love would not even need to be made because Sully would be able to fulfill some 80 of what Love does offensively anyhow, and with better defense. And 20/10 numbers are All Star numbers, but plenty of guys get those number but don't get voted to those teams.  Otherwise Zach Randolf would be an all star every year. So, yes, I think that Sully is that good.

Houston had a top ten center in Omer Asik and still went out and got Dwight Howard.  There is a similar justification for getting Love.  I doubt Sullinger is an all-star talent, but I have no doubts that Kevin Love is not just a legitimate All-Star but a legitimate MVP candidate.

Completely agree. TP.

[CoachBo]

If we were to get Love under the proposed deal, I'd love to expand the deal to include Kevin Martin.  He's still a pretty darn good player and a heck of a shooter.  I'd also make a move to grab Asik and then try to get Pierce at the MLE. 

We could then rock a starting 5 of the following:

Rondo
Martin
Pierce
Love
Asik

with at least Green and Olynyk on the bench (I'm not sure if Bradley would have to be signed and traded in an expanded Martin deal). 

That's a pretty impressive starting 5 with two strong bench players. 

I'd say that that would get them the 3 seed in the East and leave them enough assets to potentially add to it in the future.

Agreed. I would imagine Minny is going to want to off-load a contract in any Love deal, and this is one way to get that done. I'm not all that concerned where Bradley plays next year anyway, so I'm good with this either way.

[McHales Pits]

I agree adding Kevin Martin to the deal would be a big upgrade to what I suggested.  I'd still keep Bradley.  I think his ideal role is as a defender and shooter off the bench.  If we could add Okafor and Pierce well (maybe wishful thinking) this team is shaping up pretty good.

1 Rondo, Bayless
2 Martin, Bradley
3 Pierce, Green
4 Love, Olynyk
5 Asik, Okafor

I think that team could contend.

I like this  team...Although I would start Green and bring Pierce off the bench

I would still like to see James Johnson added for the defense he can play on opposing wing players/forwards. Per-36 he averaged 14.5 Pts/6.3 Rebs/4.2 Asst/1.6 Stls/2.1 Blk with a 101 DRtg while playing SF and PF (6'9" 245). He only got about 15-20 MPG with Memphis. He could be a nice role player for a small contract. And his nickname is Bloodsport.

[knuckleballer]

I agree adding Kevin Martin to the deal would be a big upgrade to what I suggested.  I'd still keep Bradley.  I think his ideal role is as a defender and shooter off the bench.  If we could add Okafor and Pierce well (maybe wishful thinking) this team is shaping up pretty good.

1 Rondo, Bayless
2 Martin, Bradley
3 Pierce, Green
4 Love, Olynyk
5 Asik, Okafor

I think that team could contend.

I like this  team...Although I would start Green and bring Pierce off the bench

I would still like to see James Johnson added for the defense he can play on opposing wing players/forwards. Per-36 he averaged 14.5 Pts/6.3 Rebs/4.2 Asst/1.6 Stls/2.1 Blk with a 101 DRtg while playing SF and PF (6'9" 245). He only got about 15-20 MPG with Memphis. He could be a nice role player for a small contract. And his nickname is Bloodsport.

I don't know much about James Johnson, but with a nickname like Bloodsport he can't be all bad.

[fairweatherfan]

James Johnson is a really nice role player who's never gotten a lot of attention.  He's kind of like a homeless man's Josh Smith, including the crappy jumpshot but with a better shot selection (since chucking like Smith gets him back on the bench quick).  Would be a decent piece off the bench.

[Smokeeye123]

Am I the only one kind of bleh on Asik? I'd rather just draft Nurkic with 17 and sign someone else.

[Monkhouse]

Am I the only one kind of bleh on Asik? I'd rather just draft Nurkic with 17 and sign someone else.

I'm a little bleh on Asik.

I would rather have Sanders, but I'm afraid of his price tag/contract.

[McHales Pits]

I'm neutral on Asik. Poor hands and a high TO rate for a low usage player. But Ron Adams raves about his defensive ability and we really need a defensive big to blitz pick and rolls. If he can anchor the defense and throw up 10-10 with a block or two every night and all it takes is the trade exception and a pick, then it seems worth it

[manl_lui]

Not sure how feasible this is, but I did raise it in the other thread

What if we trade everyone on the team not named Rondo to get Love with our picks (say pick 6 and Bradley are interchangeable in our case)

So we grab Love with whoever - definitely Sullinger has to be included in the package + at least 3 first round picks, add in Green/Bass/Hump whoever. That leaves us with what 4-5 more 1st round picks?

Ok, now let's trade the remaining first round picks + whichever players we have left for Melo

Use Trade Exception for Larry Sanders (or a defensive center)

Rondo/ (Bradley or pick 6 [I like Marcus Smart btw]) / Carmelo / Love / Larry Sanders

is this feasible or no where near feasible?

[McHales Pits]

I agree adding Kevin Martin to the deal would be a big upgrade to what I suggested.  I'd still keep Bradley.  I think his ideal role is as a defender and shooter off the bench.  If we could add Okafor and Pierce well (maybe wishful thinking) this team is shaping up pretty good.

1 Rondo, Bayless
2 Martin, Bradley
3 Pierce, Green
4 Love, Olynyk
5 Asik, Okafor

I think that team could contend.

I like this  team...Although I would start Green and bring Pierce off the bench

I would still like to see James Johnson added for the defense he can play on opposing wing players/forwards. Per-36 he averaged 14.5 Pts/6.3 Rebs/4.2 Asst/1.6 Stls/2.1 Blk with a 101 DRtg while playing SF and PF (6'9" 245). He only got about 15-20 MPG with Memphis. He could be a nice role player for a small contract. And his nickname is Bloodsport.

I don't know much about James Johnson, but with a nickname like Bloodsport he can't be all bad.

I believe he is a double blackbelt in Ju-Jitsu (sp*)...

[D.o.s.]

Plus he has that epic neck tattoo

[Monkhouse]

Not sure how feasible this is, but I did raise it in the other thread

What if we trade everyone on the team not named Rondo to get Love with our picks (say pick 6 and Bradley are interchangeable in our case)

So we grab Love with whoever - definitely Sullinger has to be included in the package + at least 3 first round picks, add in Green/Bass/Hump whoever. That leaves us with what 4-5 more 1st round picks?

Ok, now let's trade the remaining first round picks + whichever players we have left for Melo

Use Trade Exception for Larry Sanders (or a defensive center)

Rondo/ (Bradley or pick 6 [I like Marcus Smart btw]) / Carmelo / Love / Larry Sanders

is this feasible or no where near feasible?

If I remember correctly, the only way we can honestly get Melo is if he signs with us in FA for the MLE. I would like Sanders though.

Worst case for SF, I would like Deng, Pierce, or even MKG.

[knuckleballer]

Not sure how feasible this is, but I did raise it in the other thread

What if we trade everyone on the team not named Rondo to get Love with our picks (say pick 6 and Bradley are interchangeable in our case)

So we grab Love with whoever - definitely Sullinger has to be included in the package + at least 3 first round picks, add in Green/Bass/Hump whoever. That leaves us with what 4-5 more 1st round picks?

Ok, now let's trade the remaining first round picks + whichever players we have left for Melo

Use Trade Exception for Larry Sanders (or a defensive center)

Rondo/ (Bradley or pick 6 [I like Marcus Smart btw]) / Carmelo / Love / Larry Sanders

is this feasible or no where near feasible?

How do we afford both Love and Melo?  I think the only way is to trade Green and Wallace which neither the Wolves or Knicks would accept.  I don't think it's feasible.

[Monkhouse]

Not sure how feasible this is, but I did raise it in the other thread

What if we trade everyone on the team not named Rondo to get Love with our picks (say pick 6 and Bradley are interchangeable in our case)

So we grab Love with whoever - definitely Sullinger has to be included in the package + at least 3 first round picks, add in Green/Bass/Hump whoever. That leaves us with what 4-5 more 1st round picks?

Ok, now let's trade the remaining first round picks + whichever players we have left for Melo

Use Trade Exception for Larry Sanders (or a defensive center)

Rondo/ (Bradley or pick 6 [I like Marcus Smart btw]) / Carmelo / Love / Larry Sanders

is this feasible or no where near feasible?

How do we afford both Love and Melo?  I think the only way is to trade Green and Wallace which neither the Wolves or Knicks would accept.  I don't think it's feasible.

I think it is feasible if Jackson is looking to build through the draft. The only problem is whether or not the picks we got could interest them. We could also take on a contract they don't like, except for Amare.

If Phil Jackson is content with taking 2 of our unprotected Nets picks, and one of our future Celtics pick, I don't see why not.

[jay]

If we can land Love, Afflalo has to be the next move.  They are going to have Exum and Oladipo at guard, so a contract like Bass or Bogans plus a future pick might make sense to them.

Rondo, Afflalo, Green, Love, Olynyk.  No bench to speak of outside of Wallace.


2nd trade maybe try to send Wallace and a pick for Larry Sanders, roll the dice a little and see if Sanders can be the shotblock er we need?