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Re: James Harden is the biggest choker right now
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2014, 08:24:21 AM »

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Paul George may be the biggest along with all the Pacers players


Re: James Harden is the biggest choker right now
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2014, 02:14:17 PM »

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What is the first team first round All-NBA choke team?

This is my vote:

PG: G. Hill
SG: Harden
SF: Terrence Jones
PF: Boozer
C: Hibbert

Re: James Harden is the biggest choker right now
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2014, 04:26:09 PM »

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What is the first team first round All-NBA choke team?

This is my vote:

PG: G. Hill
SG: Harden
SF: Terrence Jones
PF: Boozer
C: Hibbert

No T-Mac?

And I'm not sure you can call Harden a choker.  It looks more like he's just a dumb player who's gotten by his whole life on raw talent and hasn't developed a lot of secondary basketball skills.

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Re: James Harden is the biggest choker right now
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2014, 04:32:31 PM »

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I wouldn't call Harden a choker - he made some huge plays in the West bracket in 2012.  But he's been overrated for a while now and he's being exposed again in the playoffs.  He's too much of a ball-stopper who makes bad decisions on offense and coasts on defense to be a #1 option on a legit playoff contender in the 2014 NBA. 

That said he's got a ton of talent and time to improve.  But right now, no, he's not cutting it.

Re: James Harden is the biggest choker right now
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2014, 05:26:01 PM »

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Harden is not choking...

Morey is praised for his genius in advanced metrics and building a team capable of accomplishing his philosophy. His philosophy of heavily emphasizing transition, in-the-paint and 3 point shots, thus eliminating mid-range shots on offense, is excellent for the regular season against sub-par, weary, and/or unprepared teams...

What happens in the playoffs?

Transition opportunities decrease as the pace slows and top 16 teams are better prepared to contain this type of offense...

When Harden has the ball at the top of the key, the Trail Blazers are playing a hybrid man and 1-4 zone, where they're trying to keep him out of the lane, but staying close to the shooters to challenge any 3 point shots.

Harden is a great offensive player for the Rockets' offensive philosophy (he's one of the best at getting to the rim, finishing in-the-paint, drawing fouls, and at contested 3 pointers), but he and the Rockets' philosophy are easier to contain on offense in the playoffs especially when Harden doesn't get fouls called.

The fact that Harden is one of the worst defenders in the NBA is magnified when he's off offensively. He's just terrible at it... almost a cone out there... but when he's on his game offensively, he counterbalance it, but when he's not, it becomes a problem.

To be a Championship caliber team in the NBA, you need a mid-range specialist that can create his own offense. LaMarcus Aldridge dominating predominately from mid-range must be a slap in the face to the Rockets and their philosophy.

Re: James Harden is the biggest choker right now
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2014, 02:46:31 AM »

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The Beard choked his way to 37, 9 and 6.

 ;)

Re: James Harden is the biggest choker right now
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2014, 07:16:57 AM »

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The Beard choked his way to 37, 9 and 6.

 ;)
On a ridiculous 35 field goal attempts. 

Re: James Harden is the biggest choker right now
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2014, 03:54:45 AM »

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HOU 121, POR 116 (OT)

The Beard choked his way to 37, 9 and 6.

 ;)
On a ridiculous 35 field goal attempts.

And 2 steals, 1 TO, 3 PF in 50:38 of PT.

Re: James Harden is the biggest choker right now
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2014, 04:13:47 AM »

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The Beard choked his way to 37, 9 and 6.

 ;)
On a ridiculous 35 field goal attempts.

And 2 steals, 1 TO, 3 PF in 50:38 of PT.

Not sure why the 2 steals and 3 PFs are put there.

1 TO = Good.
2 Steals in 50 minutes for a guard = ...okay?
3 PFs = Refs suck? Harden plays good defense and doesn't foul? Or Harden is sooooo lazy on D he's only got 3 fouls in 50 minutes?

Re: James Harden is the biggest choker right now
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2014, 05:00:54 AM »

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Wasn't Ray Allen horrible in the first round, great by the finals in 2008?

Re: James Harden is the biggest choker right now
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2014, 05:33:18 AM »

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Wasn't Ray Allen horrible in the first round, great by the finals in 2008?
Thing is Ray wasn't number 1, and Houston aren't going to make finals

Re: James Harden is the biggest choker right now
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2014, 09:14:38 AM »

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Wasn't Ray Allen horrible in the first round, great by the finals in 2008?
Thing is Ray wasn't number 1, and Houston aren't going to make finals

Ray also wasn't 24.

Re: James Harden is the biggest choker right now
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2014, 09:56:47 AM »

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HOU 121, POR 116 (OT)

The Beard choked his way to 37, 9 and 6.

 ;)
On a ridiculous 35 field goal attempts.

It's only ridiculous if they lose -- if they win he's "putting the weight of the team on his shoulders"
At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on its back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.

Re: James Harden is the biggest choker right now
« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2014, 10:33:14 AM »

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Wasn't Ray Allen horrible in the first round, great by the finals in 2008?

  Worse in the 2nd round I think.

Re: James Harden is the biggest choker right now
« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2014, 10:57:45 AM »

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Harden's averaging 28, 6 and 5 in the playoffs. Sure is shooting percentage is pretty terrible but I wouldnt say he is "choking" by any means. His team is down 3 - 1 to a team that had the same record as them in the regular season and really is just plain better than the Rockets.