More proof Bradley will stay a Celtic

[hpantazo]

It's not just one series against Felton though. Bradley has gotten torched by a number of players over the last few years. He once blocked a hobbled Wade on national tv and since then everyone considers him a lockdown defender. It's like considering Gerald Green a superstar for having a few nice dunks.

[nickagneta]

It's not just one series against Felton though. Bradley has gotten torched by a number of players over the last few years. He once blocked a hobbled Wade on national tv and since then everyone considers him a lockdown defender. It's like considering Gerald Green a superstar for having a few nice dunks.

Bird struggled against Michael Cooper and had some other bad games in his career. Must mean that Bird wasn't that good.

Do you see how easy that is? That's what you are doing.

Here's another example: Marc Gasol is the defending DPOY and he struggles against Al Jefferson. Doesn't mean Gasol isn't a great defensive player.

Bradley is an exceptional defender. Because he struggles against Felton and had some other bad games against some players doesn't suddenly make him a less than stellar defender.

[hpantazo]

It's not just one series against Felton though. Bradley has gotten torched by a number of players over the last few years. He once blocked a hobbled Wade on national tv and since then everyone considers him a lockdown defender. It's like considering Gerald Green a superstar for having a few nice dunks.

Bird struggled against Michael Cooper and had some other bad games in his career. Must mean that Bird wasn't that good.

Do you see how easy that is? That's what you are doing.

Here's another example: Marc Gasol is the defending DPOY and he struggles against Al Jefferson. Doesn't mean Gasol isn't a great defensive player.

Bradley is an exceptional defender. Because he struggles against Felton and had some other bad games against some players doesn't suddenly make him a less than stellar defender.

Maybe you misread my post, I said it's not just Felton, it's many other players too. He has never really locked down anyone. He's exceptional at pressing the ball. That's it. That doesn't equate an all around great defender. Many guys shoot over him and get by him when he over presses. He is incapable of shutting down high level SGs or PGs. He also gets called for a lot of fouls when he tries to stop good offensive players because the refs don't want to allow his type of defense.

In addition, as good as he was at pressing the ball, he stopped doing it this year so he can conserve his energy for offense, which is not helping his value at all.

[bballdog384]

In addition, as good as he was at pressing the ball, he stopped doing it this year so he can conserve his energy for offense, which is not helping his value at all.

It might not help his court value, but it definitely helped his contract value  .

[SHAQATTACK]

I need to see him shoot a high percentage ever game ,  long as he is efficient on a regular basis ...so need to look at a 10 game stretch and see how he does,,

I'm still for letting him go

[PaulAllen]

I need to see him shoot a high percentage ever game ,  long as he is efficient on a regular basis ...so need to look at a 10 game stretch and see how he does,,

I'm still for letting him go

really ..did you watch the last 2 games or at least look at a box score.. He has def pulled off several games in a row... You put good players around him he will be even more valuable

[colincb]

It's not just one series against Felton though. Bradley has gotten torched by a number of players over the last few years. He once blocked a hobbled Wade on national tv and since then everyone considers him a lockdown defender. It's like considering Gerald Green a superstar for having a few nice dunks.

Bird struggled against Michael Cooper and had some other bad games in his career. Must mean that Bird wasn't that good.

Do you see how easy that is? That's what you are doing.

Here's another example: Marc Gasol is the defending DPOY and he struggles against Al Jefferson. Doesn't mean Gasol isn't a great defensive player.

Bradley is an exceptional defender. Because he struggles against Felton and had some other bad games against some players doesn't suddenly make him a less than stellar defender.

Maybe you misread my post, I said it's not just Felton, it's many other players too. He has never really locked down anyone. He's exceptional at pressing the ball. That's it. That doesn't equate an all around great defender. Many guys shoot over him and get by him when he over presses. He is incapable of shutting down high level SGs or PGs. He also gets called for a lot of fouls when he tries to stop good offensive players because the refs don't want to allow his type of defense.

In addition, as good as he was at pressing the ball, he stopped doing it this year so he can conserve his energy for offense, which is not helping his value at all.

He was named second team All NBA defense last season and he's not a top defender? His points per possession allowed stats said otherwise last year.  This year he's down on defensive points per possession allowed stats but still much above average and he's been playing on bum wheels.

[#1P4P]

It's not just one series against Felton though. Bradley has gotten torched by a number of players over the last few years. He once blocked a hobbled Wade on national tv and since then everyone considers him a lockdown defender. It's like considering Gerald Green a superstar for having a few nice dunks.

What a terribly misplaced analogy and baseless opinion...

According to individual defensive statistics logged by Synergy Sports, Bradley limited opponents to 0.697 points per play, the lowest in the league among those with at least 475 total defensive possessions. Opponents shot just 30.8 percent against Bradley and scored just 31.8 percent of the time (also a league low using that 475 possession total).

Those are stats of an elite defensive player... One of, if not, the best on ball defenders in the NBA.

He's dialed back his defensive pressure to conserve energy (which really just means that he's engaging closer to the 3 point line instead of full/half court), but still has and uses his exceptional tools to continue to be one of the best defenders in the league. He's also sharpened his offensive skills to boot.

He's continuously getting stronger, improving his scoring ability, and he's just 23. If he can stay healthy, anything less than $8M per year is going to be a bargain.

[LooseCannon]

Maybe you misread my post, I said it's not just Felton, it's many other players too. He has never really locked down anyone. He's exceptional at pressing the ball. That's it. That doesn't equate an all around great defender. Many guys shoot over him and get by him when he over presses. He is incapable of shutting down high level SGs or PGs. He also gets called for a lot of fouls when he tries to stop good offensive players because the refs don't want to allow his type of defense.

How many guards do you rate as better defenders than Bradley?

[pearljammer10]

It's not just one series against Felton though. Bradley has gotten torched by a number of players over the last few years. He once blocked a hobbled Wade on national tv and since then everyone considers him a lockdown defender. It's like considering Gerald Green a superstar for having a few nice dunks.

Bird struggled against Michael Cooper and had some other bad games in his career. Must mean that Bird wasn't that good.

Do you see how easy that is? That's what you are doing.

Here's another example: Marc Gasol is the defending DPOY and he struggles against Al Jefferson. Doesn't mean Gasol isn't a great defensive player.

Bradley is an exceptional defender. Because he struggles against Felton and had some other bad games against some players doesn't suddenly make him a less than stellar defender.

Maybe you misread my post, I said it's not just Felton, it's many other players too. He has never really locked down anyone. He's exceptional at pressing the ball. That's it. That doesn't equate an all around great defender. Many guys shoot over him and get by him when he over presses. He is incapable of shutting down high level SGs or PGs. He also gets called for a lot of fouls when he tries to stop good offensive players because the refs don't want to allow his type of defense.

In addition, as good as he was at pressing the ball, he stopped doing it this year so he can conserve his energy for offense, which is not helping his value at all.

He was named second team All NBA defense last season and he's not a top defender? His points per possession allowed stats said otherwise last year.  This year he's down on defensive points per possession allowed stats but still much above average and he's been playing on bum wheels.

Rondo's been a 1st or 2nd all nba defender his last four healthy years and people criticize him for being a bad defender all the time.

Like others said when he is pressuring the ball he is at his best and brings a completely different element to the team, but he has stopped doing that.

In four years Bradley had a great stretch of 13 games which completely over valued his stock... Anyone who thinks 8mil for Bradley is a "bargain" is smoking something that I would love to get my hands on. Bradley is at best a 7th or 8th man on a contending team that should be making no more than 4 mil a year.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

So, before he got injured, was that not AB who put the clamps on James Harden? James Harden who had been torching many teams in a row at the time? I think the guy was scoring around 38pts at the time, shooting extremely well. He also put the clamps on Curry around that time but was beaten on a last second play b/c he switched with Hump. Was it not Curry and Klay who told AB and Lee to take it easy, told them they didn't have to defend them as much as they were (paraphrasing)? Oh, you can say it's not true b.c it came from AB and Lee but I haven't heard Curry or Klay say it wasn't true... now tell me, if someone said you, one of the best in the game, begged them to take it easy on you would you just let them say it if it isn't true or would you say it's a lie? No way you just let someone say something like that if it's not true!

You find me ONE player who can shut down all the elite players every time they face them and I'll say ANYTHING you want me too! The best players find ways to score no matter who you have on them at some point.

Talking about no one can stop Green when he is hot, LOL... he must somehow get hot just about every time he plays against him or could it be that LeBron just has trouble defending him? You could say that Green is a better player than Felton but in comparison to LeBron he is no one. What I said is not to compare Green and Felton, you have to compare the 2 players who guard each other... LeBron is a far better player than Green and it's not close, AB is better than Felton but not far better. LeBron can't guard Green and they don't even try it anymore, still doesn't keep him from being one of the best defenders on the planet (just ask him and he'll cry to you about it).


There is no arguing with those who say AB isn't a great defender, if many in the league say it, somehow they are wrong b.c people with no evidence to back it up says he isn't. People who actually play against him feel differently but if CBloggers say he isn't... must be true.  He may not be producing the same on defense this season but he is still one of the better defenders, why he isn't, is up for debate (one I don't feel like getting into).

[wdleehi]

and to all who feel he is not worth 6/7 mil a year its good you are not the GM of this team and Danny is.. he will pay it

Because you, also not the GM of the team, think he is worth that much?

[LooseCannon]

In four years Bradley had a great stretch of 13 games which completely over valued his stock... Anyone who thinks 8mil for Bradley is a "bargain" is smoking something that I would love to get my hands on. Bradley is at best a 7th or 8th man on a contending team that should be making no more than 4 mil a year.

Avery Bradley is capable of making as much of a contribution to a contending team as prime Kendrick Perkins....and possibly more.

Of course, Perk was making about $4.5m when the Celtics last won a title....

[BballTim]

It's not just one series against Felton though. Bradley has gotten torched by a number of players over the last few years. He once blocked a hobbled Wade on national tv and since then everyone considers him a lockdown defender. It's like considering Gerald Green a superstar for having a few nice dunks.

Bird struggled against Michael Cooper and had some other bad games in his career. Must mean that Bird wasn't that good.

Do you see how easy that is? That's what you are doing.

Here's another example: Marc Gasol is the defending DPOY and he struggles against Al Jefferson. Doesn't mean Gasol isn't a great defensive player.

Bradley is an exceptional defender. Because he struggles against Felton and had some other bad games against some players doesn't suddenly make him a less than stellar defender.

Maybe you misread my post, I said it's not just Felton, it's many other players too. He has never really locked down anyone. He's exceptional at pressing the ball. That's it. That doesn't equate an all around great defender. Many guys shoot over him and get by him when he over presses. He is incapable of shutting down high level SGs or PGs. He also gets called for a lot of fouls when he tries to stop good offensive players because the refs don't want to allow his type of defense.

In addition, as good as he was at pressing the ball, he stopped doing it this year so he can conserve his energy for offense, which is not helping his value at all.

He was named second team All NBA defense last season and he's not a top defender? His points per possession allowed stats said otherwise last year.  This year he's down on defensive points per possession allowed stats but still much above average and he's been playing on bum wheels.

Rondo's been a 1st or 2nd all nba defender his last four healthy years and people criticize him for being a bad defender all the time.

  Rondo's defensive numbers have been among the best for point guards for years, he's finished top 5 in dpoy voting multiple times and he's been on all-defense teams his last 4 healthy seasons. The fact that people were criticizing his defense at the time wasn't much more meaningful than all the claims that the only reason he got a lot of assists was playing with HOFers.

  As for Bradley, he's been one of the best perimeter defenders in the league. Sure, he's struggled on defense at times.  But the bulk of the guards in the league struggle on defense much more than he does.

[playdream]

It's not just one series against Felton though. Bradley has gotten torched by a number of players over the last few years. He once blocked a hobbled Wade on national tv and since then everyone considers him a lockdown defender. It's like considering Gerald Green a superstar for having a few nice dunks.

Bird struggled against Michael Cooper and had some other bad games in his career. Must mean that Bird wasn't that good.

Do you see how easy that is? That's what you are doing.

Here's another example: Marc Gasol is the defending DPOY and he struggles against Al Jefferson. Doesn't mean Gasol isn't a great defensive player.

Bradley is an exceptional defender. Because he struggles against Felton and had some other bad games against some players doesn't suddenly make him a less than stellar defender.

Maybe you misread my post, I said it's not just Felton, it's many other players too. He has never really locked down anyone. He's exceptional at pressing the ball. That's it. That doesn't equate an all around great defender. Many guys shoot over him and get by him when he over presses. He is incapable of shutting down high level SGs or PGs. He also gets called for a lot of fouls when he tries to stop good offensive players because the refs don't want to allow his type of defense.

In addition, as good as he was at pressing the ball, he stopped doing it this year so he can conserve his energy for offense, which is not helping his value at all.

He was named second team All NBA defense last season and he's not a top defender? His points per possession allowed stats said otherwise last year.  This year he's down on defensive points per possession allowed stats but still much above average and he's been playing on bum wheels.

Rondo's been a 1st or 2nd all nba defender his last four healthy years and people criticize him for being a bad defender all the time.

  Rondo's defensive numbers have been among the best for point guards for years, he's finished top 5 in dpoy voting multiple times and he's been on all-defense teams his last 4 healthy seasons. The fact that people were criticizing his defense at the time wasn't much more meaningful than all the claims that the only reason he got a lot of assists was playing with HOFers.

  As for Bradley, he's been one of the best perimeter defenders in the league. Sure, he's struggled on defense at times.  But the bulk of the guards in the league struggle on defense much more than he does.

The best thing he is on defense is pressing the ball, which works well sometimes,
but wheh he start doing it his offense totally disappear
Not to mention he can't guard bigger guards like felton and usually over tracing which caused the defense to collapse