Brighter Future... Boston or Orlando?

[colincb]

BTW, there's no way the Magic have room for 2 max contracts next season. Roughly $23 million to spend under the cap assuming two first rounders and Maxiell and Nelson given their walking papers.

[CelticG1]

On paper thr magic arguably have a better future today tuesday march 4th.

Me personally i feel a lot  better with a Boston team with Danny ainge and this organization than Orlando

I also think having a solidified all star on your team can help with the immediate future, and no matter how good you think Afflalo has been, hes not a name that comes up much.

Think you are putting a lot of stock into Oladipo too soon. Im not overly imlressed. Seen similar guys like Tyreke Evans and OJ Mayo light it up rookie year than instantly suck.

im excited for a few months from now when a lot could change. Or if we both end up drafting our first rounders who the better player will be

[slamtheking]

The way the original post is written, it comes across as biased towards Orlando. 

Boston as a big edge in picks.  The unprotected picks from the Nets are a huge advantage not to mention the sheer number of picks Danny has accumulated.

The talent level on both teams favors the C's.  Rondo and Green are better than anyone on Orlando.  Bass is a solid vet.  Orlando's got -- drumroll please -- Jameer Nelson.

For youth, C's have Sully, AB and KO.  Fav too for that matter.  Orlando does have Vucevic, Afflalo and Oladipo but the rest just aren't putting it together like I thought the would.  Harkless, Nicholson and O'Quinn aren't developing into the solid players they were projected to become from that draft (as least not quickly).

As far as front office and ownership, I'll take Boston on that.  Orlando can't hang on to their prime talent despite their supposed advantages of taxes and weather.  speaks volumes about how the organization is run.

[BleedGreen1989]

The draft lottery will make a huge difference for either team, but it's close as is.

I would side with Boston just by sheer volume of picks.

Phillidelphia may have both Boston and Orlando beat after the draft this year.

[Future Celtics Owner]

I believe Boston is in a much better position. Sure Orlando currently has more ping pong balls but we have more assets and quality players. Teams like Orlando and Philly dumped quality players in order to have a losing record. While the celtics are right there with them and were able to hold onto our quality players (Bass, Green, Bradley, etc) all of whom championship caliber teams will want to trade for in the offseason after they lose in the playoffs.

As far As young talent goes HERE IS ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW:
Bradley vs Oladipo: Both are basically the same age and are putting up similar numbers....yeah look it up Bradley was one and done while Oladipo went three years in college .Oladipo turns 23 in like a month or so.

Sully is playing out of position. Many including ESPN regard him as the 5th best sophomore. And he has plenty of room to improve his conditioning and athleticism


  ....sorry its getting late can someone pick up where I left off

Bradley is turning 24 this year.  Oladipo is 21.  As far as talent it's not even close.

http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Victor-Oladipo/Summary/22337

Like I said Oladipo turns 23 in like a month or so. Im not saying Bradley is better but when I started my post I said I would give a dif perspective.  Also, I do not know how many ppl would put money on Oladipo getting those numbers on the Celts. Not like we are the best. But I do think we have a lot of midlevel talent.

[CoachBo]

I believe Boston is in a much better position. Sure Orlando currently has more ping pong balls but we have more assets and quality players. Teams like Orlando and Philly dumped quality players in order to have a losing record. While the celtics are right there with them and were able to hold onto our quality players (Bass, Green, Bradley, etc) all of whom championship caliber teams will want to trade for in the offseason after they lose in the playoffs.

As far As young talent goes HERE IS ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW:
Bradley vs Oladipo: Both are basically the same age and are putting up similar numbers....yeah look it up Bradley was one and done while Oladipo went three years in college .Oladipo turns 23 in like a month or so.

Sully is playing out of position. Many including ESPN regard him as the 5th best sophomore. And he has plenty of room to improve his conditioning and athleticism


  ....sorry its getting late can someone pick up where I left off

Bradley is turning 24 this year.  Oladipo is 21.  As far as talent it's not even close.

This, times 1,000. I'd take Oladipo every single time.

[Jailan34]

I believe Boston is in a much better position. Sure Orlando currently has more ping pong balls but we have more assets and quality players. Teams like Orlando and Philly dumped quality players in order to have a losing record. While the celtics are right there with them and were able to hold onto our quality players (Bass, Green, Bradley, etc) all of whom championship caliber teams will want to trade for in the offseason after they lose in the playoffs.

As far As young talent goes HERE IS ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW:
Bradley vs Oladipo: Both are basically the same age and are putting up similar numbers....yeah look it up Bradley was one and done while Oladipo went three years in college .Oladipo turns 23 in like a month or so.

Sully is playing out of position. Many including ESPN regard him as the 5th best sophomore. And he has plenty of room to improve his conditioning and athleticism


  ....sorry its getting late can someone pick up where I left off

Bradley is turning 24 this year.  Oladipo is 21.  As far as talent it's not even close.

This, times 1,000. I'd take Oladipo every single time.

People on this board over value those three players specifically, that they think other teams will give us 1st rounders for them.

Not a chance.

[moiso]

I believe Boston is in a much better position. Sure Orlando currently has more ping pong balls but we have more assets and quality players. Teams like Orlando and Philly dumped quality players in order to have a losing record. While the celtics are right there with them and were able to hold onto our quality players (Bass, Green, Bradley, etc) all of whom championship caliber teams will want to trade for in the offseason after they lose in the playoffs.

As far As young talent goes HERE IS ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW:
Bradley vs Oladipo: Both are basically the same age and are putting up similar numbers....yeah look it up Bradley was one and done while Oladipo went three years in college .Oladipo turns 23 in like a month or so.

Sully is playing out of position. Many including ESPN regard him as the 5th best sophomore. And he has plenty of room to improve his conditioning and athleticism


  ....sorry its getting late can someone pick up where I left off

Bradley is turning 24 this year.  Oladipo is 21.  As far as talent it's not even close.

http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Victor-Oladipo/Summary/22337

Like I said Oladipo turns 23 in like a month or so. Im not saying Bradley is better but when I started my post I said I would give a dif perspective.  Also, I do not know how many ppl would put money on Oladipo getting those numbers on the Celts. Not like we are the best. But I do think we have a lot of midlevel talent.

The ESPN site has Oladipo a year younger.

[LooseCannon]

#2 - Future Picks

Boston:  They have 2015 Clippers pick and a few down the road for the Nets.

Orlando:  They have a 2016 Philly pick and 2017 Laker pick.. both have some protection, I believe. 

Winner:  Boston

Orlando's extra picks have similar protection as the 2014 Philly pick which you didn't mention, devolving into two second-round picks if they don't fall outside the protected range after a couple of years.

[PhoSita]

Honestly it'll probably just come down to who each team gets in the draft this year and how the players turn out. 

Chances are, one of the two will get a top 3 pick and the top 3 in this draft seem pretty sure to turn into high-impact players.

[manl_lui]

to me, it also comes down to management in which I like Danny's chances. He is a good/great and aggressive GM who will experiment and pursue talent

[LooseCannon]

It would probably be easier to convince a top free agent to come to Boston rather than Orlando.

[Nerf DPOY]

On Oladipo v Bradley - They're a year and a half apart in age. To say Bradley will be 24 while Oladipo is still 21 is true in the same way Bill Buckner playing in four different decades is true. To paint it as though they're 3 years apart makes me question  what "not even close" means in terms of their respective talent. Oladipo is a tad bigger and a  better slasher, but that still leaves his FG% at only 40%. He's 31% from beyond the arc. Maybe that'll improve, but I'll point out at age 21 Bradley had superior numbers from outside.

Also, even after Bradley's extension this summer he won't be making substantially more than Oladipo will on his rookie deal.

edit: just saw colincb already stated most of what I said more succinctly on the 1st page...

[Snakehead]

I like some of Orlando's players but they don't have a player near the caliber of Rondo and I think Stevens is already a great NBA coach.

It would probably be easier to convince a top free agent to come to Boston rather than Orlando.

That as well.  The city and team, plus Rondo and Stevens and Ainge showing he can consistently put together good teams or be ready to do so by getting assets together.

[LarBrd33]

The way the original post is written, it comes across as biased towards Orlando. 

Boston as a big edge in picks.  The unprotected picks from the Nets are a huge advantage not to mention the sheer number of picks Danny has accumulated.

The talent level on both teams favors the C's.  Rondo and Green are better than anyone on Orlando.  Bass is a solid vet.  Orlando's got -- drumroll please -- Jameer Nelson.

For youth, C's have Sully, AB and KO.  Fav too for that matter.  Orlando does have Vucevic, Afflalo and Oladipo but the rest just aren't putting it together like I thought the would.  Harkless, Nicholson and O'Quinn aren't developing into the solid players they were projected to become from that draft (as least not quickly).

As far as front office and ownership, I'll take Boston on that.  Orlando can't hang on to their prime talent despite their supposed advantages of taxes and weather.  speaks volumes about how the organization is run.

Considering the Celtics are on the verge of a big win steak that will leave them with the 15th and 18th picks, I still say Orlando has a brighter future.  Better youth.  Better picks in the immediate future.  More cap space. 

Boston has the advantage of being a premiere franchise in a huge sports city.  Rondo is more valuable than Afflalo even though Orlando would have more options for moving Afflalo.  We have more picks down the line, but they look like they will probably be late 1sts. 

Orlando seems to have a brighter future.