This was the general sentiment of the blog last season after Rondo went down. And then look what happened to us in the playoffs. Easy concept, you don't win without stars.
I don't think that was the general sentiment of the blog last season. Certainly some vocal people were yelling & screaming that the Celtics were better without Rondo but there were also plenty of people here calling that viewpoint a mirage (one which was ultimately realized, IMO).
As one of the "mirage" people, I think I was generally outnumbered in the discussions, at least until the playoffs started.
Well, let's be honest, you are also one of the biggest ligthtning rods on here when it comes to Rondo discussion. Given your active involvement in those debates, it was only natural you were getting more of the brunt of it than other people claiming it was a mirage.
It's true I end up in many of the Rondo discussions but it's also true that I rarely start any of the conversations. It's not like I was starting threads about how the wins without Rondo were a mirage, it's more that I was responding to some of the multitude of "THIS TEAM is better without Rondo" posts.
Also true for tank threads.
According to Tim, Rondo is a top 5 player and has been the best player on the team since the 09-10 season. It was never about KG or Pierce, but about Rondo. Rondo and Sullinger were returning from injury, they added Olynyk, and added a few veterans (Hump, Wallace, Bogans) to off-set the losses of KG and Pierce. So isn't only logical that the team could actually better their 1st rd exit the year before by having their "Top 5" guy back along with those other players?
Rondo is a very good player, but not nowhere the player people think he is. He's made 4 all-star team, yes, terrific. Joe Johnson has made 7. Is Joe Johnson that great?
Way to twist his words.
Just because he doesn't agree with some posters' assessment of Rondo, doesn't mean he thinks Rondo is a LeBron caliber player.
Are you sure about that?
The main reason i started this thread was i'm tired of the way Rondo has evolved or declined. He knows how to get assists, he knows the game. He was taught from ground up by DOC and has been surrounded by three future HOF. He has been great at the playoffs before
But that doesn't mean you stop doing the things that got you here . That doesn't mean, to stop diving for the ball, take charges, go after the ball for offensive rebounds. It doesn't mean bc you did alot of the dirty/garbage jobs in the past , you don't have to anymore. Rondos adv vs other guards is his physical tools. But he thinks now he is on the same level as the elites of the league or top pgs. But the truth is , he is not. He was surrounded by great players that made the game a little easier for him to play
He has to go back to playing the same blue collar version that can help you steal games. And if he cant or wont, and wants to play chess on the basketball court , then its going to be a long while until we contend again
Yes. I'm quite certain very few, if any, posters are as "deluded" as some insinuate them to be.
For one, Rondo's recovering from surgery. You seem to expect him to go 110% every night but right now he probably can't go that hard. Even the notion that a player should go 110% every night, night in, night out is in itself an impossible task.
Rondo did sacrifice his body, drawing 2 charges against ORL the other night. Everyone seems to forget how he returned despite an ugly elbow injury. I personally don't think he's lost his heart and hustle at all.
Lastly, I'm not sure if you're implying that Rondo should stop playing smart basketball. Westbrook and Avery Bradley are guys who, I think, fit your description and I don't think Rondo's as physically gifted as Westbrook at least. And while Westbrook and AB hustle a lot, they're very prone to dumb plays.
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