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Could Danny be looking to grab another 2014 top five pick?
« on: January 30, 2014, 05:53:12 PM »

Offline TheFlex

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A lot of board members feel the Celts next direction after using their lottery pick in this year's draft is to package their remaining assets for another franchise player; Kevin Love, LaMarcus Aldridge and others have been frequently mentioned as targets. Would it be more prudent for Ainge to try for another top five draft pick this year to pair with our own (potential) top five pick?

How much would it take to get that done? Depends on the team. Milwaukee's pick is untouchable. You'd have to blow away Orlando with an offer. But I think Philly, Sacramento, Cleveland and a few other teams would be willing to listen. If Sacramento had a top five pick, for example, I think Rondo and our second first rounder this year would be enough to get it done (if Rondo slowly returns to at least 70-80% by the season's close). If Philly or Cleveland had a top five pick, I think one or two of our younger players, our second first rounder this year, and our first rounder next year would be enough to get it done.

Who would you take if we had both picks? I believe the best course of action would be to take one upside guy and one sure-fire guy. Here's the split between the two categories within the consensus top six players.

Upside:
Embiid
Wiggins
Exum

NBA-ready:
Parker
Randle
Smart

It'd be pretty sweet if we took both Wiggins and Embiid and they lived up to their potential of T-Mac who plays defense and Olajuwon. But, I also don't want them to both wash out and become Jeff Green and Hasheem Thabeet.

So, here would be my wishlist in order:

1) Embiid/Parker
2) Wiggins/Parker
3) Wiggins/Smart
4) Embiid/Smart

I left out Exum and Randle because I believe as of right now, they're repetitive with Rondo and Sully on the roster. If we do the deal with Sacramento and use Rondo as a chip, however, Exum could certainly be in play. Same goes for Sully/Randle. Thoughts?
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Re: Could Danny be looking to grab another 2014 top five pick?
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2014, 06:04:08 PM »

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I'm sure Ainge is looking at getting another top 5 pick.  I don't think it's a realistic possibility, even if it is a tantalizing possibility.

I think the C's best opportunity for another top pick is getting Detroit's pick this year if it falls in the range that is protected for Charlotte, and then having Detroit do well in the lottery.  If the pick is in the top 5, Dumars isn't making it since he'll be fired, so he's got the most impetus to give one up if the price is right.  Currently Detroit is tied for 11th with New York, so it's unlikely that said pick will be in the top 5, but that team plays very uninspiring basketball, and aren't many games out of the better part of the lottery.  I think the price there would be cheaper than Philly (who's keeping their pick barring a huge payoff, and is more likely to try to trade up in the draft if they miss out in the lottery), Sacto (who only trades it for Rondo) or Cleveland (who doesn't have a need that meshes with our best assets).
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Re: Could Danny be looking to grab another 2014 top five pick?
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2014, 06:05:54 PM »

Offline Lucky17

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What Ainge wants and what Ainge gets are totally different things.

I think the chances are virtually nil that there's a GM in the league willing to part with a high lottery pick for anything on the Celtics current roster.
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Re: Could Danny be looking to grab another 2014 top five pick?
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2014, 06:27:35 PM »

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Wouldn't it be nice if the wheels completely fall off for Atlanta and Brooklyn the second half of the season, and we net our 2nd top 5 pick that way. 
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Re: Could Danny be looking to grab another 2014 top five pick?
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2014, 06:40:14 PM »

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I could see Detroit or Sacto giving up a lottery pick for for Rondo.
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Re: Could Danny be looking to grab another 2014 top five pick?
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2014, 06:41:39 PM »

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Quote from: JBcat on January 30, 2014, 06:27:35 PM
Wouldn't it be nice if the wheels completely fall off for Atlanta and Brooklyn the second half of the season, and we net our 2nd top 5 pick that way.

Yes, that would be nice, although it would also require some bounces of the lottery balls that might knock the C's out of the top 5.
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Re: Could Danny be looking to grab another 2014 top five pick?
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2014, 06:48:59 PM »

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Quote from: dreamgreen on January 30, 2014, 06:40:14 PM
I could see Detroit or Sacto giving up a lottery pick for for Rondo.

Detroit's 2014 is owed to Charlotte if the Pistons finish with the #9 pick or worse, which is pretty much a given if they acquire Rondo.

Sacto's 2014 is owed to Chicago if the Kings finish with the #13 pick or worse.
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Re: Could Danny be looking to grab another 2014 top five pick?
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2014, 06:52:00 PM »

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Absolutely

I think this is his plan in fact....or the one course he d most like to follow


He may have several deals in mind......waiting to see how things shake down


Pull the trigger trading  with teams with  good draft choices ( top ten ). On draft night ........moving Rondo  to a team for their pick , if it looks like he can get the guy he wants.

I can see him trading Rondo and a pick s to get another pic in the top ten on Draft night. .....

I think he wants to land two young gems during this draft.



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Re: Could Danny be looking to grab another 2014 top five pick?
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2014, 06:53:17 PM »

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One can dream that out of Wiggins, Parker and Embiid, we get two of them...
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Re: Could Danny be looking to grab another 2014 top five pick?
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2014, 07:01:09 PM »

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Quote from: SHAQATTACK on January 30, 2014, 06:52:00 PM
Absolutely

I think this is his plan in fact....or the one course he d most like to follow


He may have several deals in mind......waiting to see how things shake down


Pull the trigger trading  with teams with  good draft choices ( top ten ). On draft night ........moving Rondo  to a team for their pick , if it looks like he can get the guy he wants.

I can see him trading Rondo and a pick s to get another pic in the top ten on Draft night. .....

I think he wants to land two young gems during this draft.

embiid and wiggins..........oh my goodness.  ;D
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Re: Could Danny be looking to grab another 2014 top five pick?
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2014, 07:01:43 PM »

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  I don't think there are any potential Hakeems in the draft. If there was there would be little discussion about who would be the top pick in the draft.
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Re: Could Danny be looking to grab another 2014 top five pick?
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2014, 07:06:35 PM »

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Quote from: TheFlex on January 30, 2014, 05:53:12 PM
How much would it take to get that done?

After the lottery, I could see teams considering Sullinger, the second 2014 first round pick, and a future Nets unprotected pick, but possibly asking for more.
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Re: Could Danny be looking to grab another 2014 top five pick?
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2014, 08:22:30 PM »

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Rondo to SAC would make sense, but to make it worth it, you couldn't do the trade until after the season is over. You don't want SAC to get on a hot streak after the trade and end up being at the bottom half of the lotto. Right now they are in the top five.

I could see Green being moved for a pick, It might not be in the lotto, but you could bundle it up with the Net/Hawks pick to move up a couple slots.

I would also be fine with giving up a top five protected 2015 pick to SAC if it meant two top fives. Maybe even an unprotected if we got in the top three with both picks. Wouldn't need an other player if we got a combo of Wiggins/Ebiid/Parker/Exum.
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2014, 08:29:19 PM »

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a surefire top5 pick? i would do it, i just don't know if it would be possible. Sacramento is the only trade partner that makes most sense. a healthy Rondo-Gay-Cousins core is pretty good and can make waves out West.

if we get the 2nd pick overall, and Sac gets the 4th/5th pick, would people trade Rondo for said 4th pick? or 5th pick? who will they draft?
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Re: Could Danny be looking to grab another 2014 top five pick?
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2014, 08:34:53 PM »

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Quote from: LilRip on January 30, 2014, 08:29:19 PM
a surefire top5 pick? i would do it, i just don't know if it would be possible. Sacramento is the only trade partner that makes most sense. a healthy Rondo-Gay-Cousins core is pretty good and can make waves out West.

if we get the 2nd pick overall, and Sac gets the 4th/5th pick, would people trade Rondo for said 4th pick? or 5th pick? who will they draft?

Yes. No doubt. Wiggins/Parker/Embiid and Smart/Exum/Vonleh/Randle. Where do I sign up?
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