11.9% chance of winning the draft lottery as of today

[nickagneta]

Some people don't realize this but Karl Malone played at about the same size as Lebron and was easily one of the quickest, fastest, best cardio conditioned players his size in the league back then. And strong as an ox without the Lebron need to complain about contact and rough play.

He just wasn't a high flying jumper

[Tr1boy]

Lets skip this argument bc in the end it strengthens my pt anyways. We need athleticism plus skill rather than what parker or say mcdermott brings to the table

[nickagneta]

Lets skip this argument bc in the end it strengthens my pt anyways. We need athleticism plus skill rather than what parker or say mcdermott brings to the table

You are doing to Parker the same exact thing youy just did with Malone.

Because Parker can't jump high or because he doesn't go above the rim a lot you are saying he isn't athletic. That's just inaccurate. Parker is an excellent athlete with top notch skill.

He just isn't a high flyer.

[Donoghus]

Lets skip this argument bc in the end it strengthens my pt anyways. We need athleticism plus skill rather than what parker or say mcdermott brings to the table

I'm failing to see how any of this is strengthening your point but I'll digress....

[fantankerous]

Lets skip this argument bc in the end it strengthens my pt anyways. We need athleticism plus skill rather than what parker or say mcdermott brings to the table

Yes, but your point is to spout nonsense and this argument is introducing reason to expose said nonsense.  So I'm sure you'd like to skip it.

[D.o.s.]

I think the idea that anyone who can play in the NBA can be "not athletic" is hilarious.

When you're at that point, there is only "more athletic" or "less athletic". And none of that really has to do with leaping ability.

[fairweatherfan]

I'm just saying guys we'll never win a chip with a below-the-rim guy like McHale next to another poor athlete in Bird.  We need Dr. Dunkenstein Darrell Griffith if we ever hope to contend.

[clover]

Lets skip this argument bc in the end it strengthens my pt anyways. We need athleticism plus skill rather than what parker or say mcdermott brings to the table

You are doing to Parker the same exact thing youy just did with Malone.

Because Parker can't jump high or because he doesn't go above the rim a lot you are saying he isn't athletic. That's just inaccurate. Parker is an excellent athlete with top notch skill.

He just isn't a high flyer.

Yeah, I guess that Pierce guy was never all that good either...

[Donoghus]

Lets skip this argument bc in the end it strengthens my pt anyways. We need athleticism plus skill rather than what parker or say mcdermott brings to the table

You are doing to Parker the same exact thing youy just did with Malone.

Because Parker can't jump high or because he doesn't go above the rim a lot you are saying he isn't athletic. That's just inaccurate. Parker is an excellent athlete with top notch skill.

He just isn't a high flyer.

Yeah, I guess that Pierce guy was never all that good either...

But the high flying jumper Gerald Green on the other hand.....

[Tr1boy]

We got a chance at the top 5. We dont have to choose pierce . We can choose a kg

As ppl are going off topic bringing up gerald green or deandre jordan into this

The pt I made was that in recent history teams with a legit big player or over the top athletic players have won it all.

No reason not try to try to follow this formula. Starting with hopefully our 2014 key piece draft pick

[CFAN38]

To add to the argument about parkers athleticism. Having watched alot of his games this year he seems to have no problem finishing around the rim. It isn't like he is a below the rim forward who gets blocked alot. He finishes very well around the rim. Who cares if never wins a dunk contest. Who here would take Vince Carter over Paul Pierce?

[Tr1boy]

To add to the argument about parkers athleticism. Having watched alot of his games this year he seems to have no problem finishing around the rim. It isn't like he is a below the rim forward who gets blocked alot. He finishes very well around the rim. Who cares if never wins a dunk contest. Who here would take Vince Carter over Paul Pierce?

The lack of elite athleticism and quickness is causing parker issues on defense. At times he cant even drive to the basket bc his man is right on him

When you are blessed with athletic abilities you are not only a little more everywhere on the court but also can make those difficult shots with somebody on you like glue. I havent seen parker excel in these situations vs wiggins or embiid.

Ppl seem to frequently mention that paul pierce did it. Well how many players like pierce are there in the nba? Its the durants , george etc that are ones normally the ones making it happen on a consistent basis

[Tr1boy]

To add to the argument about parkers athleticism. Having watched alot of his games this year he seems to have no problem finishing around the rim. It isn't like he is a below the rim forward who gets blocked alot. He finishes very well around the rim. Who cares if never wins a dunk contest. Who here would take Vince Carter over Paul Pierce?

I would take a vince carter at peak vs pierce at peak. Its not even a question imo

[rondohondo]

To add to the argument about parkers athleticism. Having watched alot of his games this year he seems to have no problem finishing around the rim. It isn't like he is a below the rim forward who gets blocked alot. He finishes very well around the rim. Who cares if never wins a dunk contest. Who here would take Vince Carter over Paul Pierce?

The lack of elite athleticism and quickness is causing parker issues on defense. At times he cant even drive to the basket bc his man is right on him

When you are blessed with athletic abilities you are not only a little more everywhere on the court but also can make those difficult shots with somebody on you like glue. I havent seen parker excel in these situations vs wiggins or embiid.

Ppl seem to frequently mention that paul pierce did it. Well how many players like pierce are there in the nba? Its the durants , george etc that are ones normally the ones making it happen on a consistent basis

I have seen him score in lots of ways, including being tightly guarded. He only played Wiggins one time, are you really going to base his potential on one game? (he scored in the 20's that game by the way)

[Tr1boy]

To add to the argument about parkers athleticism. Having watched alot of his games this year he seems to have no problem finishing around the rim. It isn't like he is a below the rim forward who gets blocked alot. He finishes very well around the rim. Who cares if never wins a dunk contest. Who here would take Vince Carter over Paul Pierce?

The lack of elite athleticism and quickness is causing parker issues on defense. At times he cant even drive to the basket bc his man is right on him

When you are blessed with athletic abilities you are not only a little more everywhere on the court but also can make those difficult shots with somebody on you like glue. I havent seen parker excel in these situations vs wiggins or embiid.

Ppl seem to frequently mention that paul pierce did it. Well how many players like pierce are there in the nba? Its the durants , george etc that are ones normally the ones making it happen on a consistent basis

I have seen him score in lots of ways, including being tightly guarded. He only played Wiggins one time, are you really going to base his potential on one game? (he scored in the 20's that game by the way)

I have seen parker defer the ball to other guys on the team like hood in tight situations.

His step back jumper is good. But at crucial situations or tightly guarded, he is stuck