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Re: Rajon Rondo: Return In January Isn't Realistic
« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2013, 01:33:09 PM »

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As always, I await the commentary of everyone who swore that Rondo would make his return as fast as possible because he is a competitor, unlike that no-talent glass-kneed weak-willed Derrick Rose.

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  Someone told you he'd be back as soon as he was cleared for contact and without getting into game shape?

  In any case, if he comes back at all this year he'll probably be ahead of the pace of weak-willed Derrick Rose.

First it was "he'll be back by training camp," then "he'll be back in November," then "he'll definitely be back before Christmas," sprinkled all the while with a whole bunch of "Adrian Peterson, Adrian Peterson, it's about how hard you want it, Rondo's a competitor" nonsense.

Everyone who was thinking properly said he'd probably be out until about the All-Star break, and we all got lambasted for it. It's interesting to see the perception between players on a given team and other players.

As always, I await the commentary of everyone who swore that Rondo would make his return as fast as possible because he is a competitor, unlike that no-talent glass-kneed weak-willed Derrick Rose.

 ::)

The difference is that the Bulls weren't tanking, we are.  It wouldn't make any sense for Rondo to make a comeback in a throwaway season (with brand new coach and bunch of parts). 

The Bulls certainly had the chance to knock off Miami with the way Noah, Deng, and Nate were playing.  With Rose coming back when he was declared, it would make huge difference but instead he rode the bench as a coward that he truely was and watched his team fought and struggle

If you think the Bulls really had a chance to knock of Miami in the playoffs by suddenly reintroducing Rose into the mix at the eleventh hour, I would like to partake in your herbal prescription.
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Re: Rajon Rondo: Return In January Isn't Realistic
« Reply #31 on: December 23, 2013, 02:11:35 PM »

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As always, I await the commentary of everyone who swore that Rondo would make his return as fast as possible because he is a competitor, unlike that no-talent glass-kneed weak-willed Derrick Rose.

 ::)

  Someone told you he'd be back as soon as he was cleared for contact and without getting into game shape?

  In any case, if he comes back at all this year he'll probably be ahead of the pace of weak-willed Derrick Rose.

First it was "he'll be back by training camp," then "he'll be back in November," then "he'll definitely be back before Christmas," sprinkled all the while with a whole bunch of "Adrian Peterson, Adrian Peterson, it's about how hard you want it, Rondo's a competitor" nonsense.

Everyone who was thinking properly said he'd probably be out until about the All-Star break, and we all got lambasted for it. It's interesting to see the perception between players on a given team and other players.

  So if Rondo comes back earlier than later than the all-star break does your thinking become less proper? Or will your estimate suddenly become just as nonsensical as the "Adrian Peterson" crowd?

Re: Rajon Rondo: Return In January Isn't Realistic
« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2013, 02:15:34 PM »

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As always, I await the commentary of everyone who swore that Rondo would make his return as fast as possible because he is a competitor, unlike that no-talent glass-kneed weak-willed Derrick Rose.

 ::)

  Someone told you he'd be back as soon as he was cleared for contact and without getting into game shape?

  In any case, if he comes back at all this year he'll probably be ahead of the pace of weak-willed Derrick Rose.

First it was "he'll be back by training camp," then "he'll be back in November," then "he'll definitely be back before Christmas," sprinkled all the while with a whole bunch of "Adrian Peterson, Adrian Peterson, it's about how hard you want it, Rondo's a competitor" nonsense.

Everyone who was thinking properly said he'd probably be out until about the All-Star break, and we all got lambasted for it. It's interesting to see the perception between players on a given team and other players.

  So if Rondo comes back earlier than later than the all-star break does your thinking become less proper? Or will your estimate suddenly become just as nonsensical as the "Adrian Peterson" crowd?

The guess that he'd miss the first half of the season because that's right in the typical recovery time-range for a torn ACL? That was always much more likely that ready to go out the gates at the beginning of the season--ala All Day.

He's right at the generally accepted turnaround time for an "early return," So fear not, even if he comes back before the ASB I'll still be sitting pretty. ;D
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Re: Rajon Rondo: Return In January Isn't Realistic
« Reply #33 on: December 23, 2013, 03:59:57 PM »

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As always, I await the commentary of everyone who swore that Rondo would make his return as fast as possible because he is a competitor, unlike that no-talent glass-kneed weak-willed Derrick Rose.

 ::)

  Someone told you he'd be back as soon as he was cleared for contact and without getting into game shape?

  In any case, if he comes back at all this year he'll probably be ahead of the pace of weak-willed Derrick Rose.

First it was "he'll be back by training camp," then "he'll be back in November," then "he'll definitely be back before Christmas," sprinkled all the while with a whole bunch of "Adrian Peterson, Adrian Peterson, it's about how hard you want it, Rondo's a competitor" nonsense.

Everyone who was thinking properly said he'd probably be out until about the All-Star break, and we all got lambasted for it. It's interesting to see the perception between players on a given team and other players.

  So if Rondo comes back earlier than later than the all-star break does your thinking become less proper? Or will your estimate suddenly become just as nonsensical as the "Adrian Peterson" crowd?

The guess that he'd miss the first half of the season because that's right in the typical recovery time-range for a torn ACL? That was always much more likely that ready to go out the gates at the beginning of the season--ala All Day.

He's right at the generally accepted turnaround time for an "early return," So fear not, even if he comes back before the ASB I'll still be sitting pretty. ;D

  If he comes back pretty much in between Xmas and the ASB then it'll be pretty hard to convince anyone that one of those guesses was nonsense and the other was "proper thinking".

Re: Rajon Rondo: Return In January Isn't Realistic
« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2013, 04:18:12 PM »

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Welp, don't look now folks but we have fell down to the 8th seed. Only a game or two or three in front of the Nets, Knicks, Sixers, etc. Keep Rondo on the sidelines and we'll be at the bottom of the standings again in no time.
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Re: Rajon Rondo: Return In January Isn't Realistic
« Reply #35 on: December 23, 2013, 04:47:01 PM »

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As always, I await the commentary of everyone who swore that Rondo would make his return as fast as possible because he is a competitor, unlike that no-talent glass-kneed weak-willed Derrick Rose.

 ::)

The difference is that the Bulls weren't tanking, we are.  It wouldn't make any sense for Rondo to make a comeback in a throwaway season (with brand new coach and bunch of parts). 

The Bulls certainly had the chance to knock off Miami with the way Noah, Deng, and Nate were playing.  With Rose coming back when he was declared, it would make huge difference but instead he rode the bench as a coward that he truely was and watched his team fought and struggle
I'm sure the Celtics are going to be obscene cautious with Rondo.  Rose took extra time to come back and lasted a handful of terrible games.  He looked awful even before he injured himself.  Kobe rushed back and lasted 3 garbage games before injuring himself again.   If we see Rondo come back, I think it will be for a handful of games before they shut him down again.

We are only 1.5 games out of a top 8 pick.  Plenty of time for some of those "win now" teams like Brooklyn and New York to catch up.

One thing to be concerned about... if Rondo sits out the whole season... next season is a contract year for Rondo.  The team might still be bad.  Some intriguing teams will be freeing up cap space.  We might be forced to trade him mid season or risk losing him for nothing.

Re: Rajon Rondo: Return In January Isn't Realistic
« Reply #36 on: December 23, 2013, 05:13:58 PM »

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Welp, don't look now folks but we have fell down to the 8th seed. Only a game or two or three in front of the Nets, Knicks, Sixers, etc. Keep Rondo on the sidelines and we'll be at the bottom of the standings again in no time.

Yep, and aside from Rondo we have been for the most part injury free this season unlike some teams right below us.   One key injury say for a month to either Sully, Green, Bradley,  or Crawford and we could go into a major tailspin.   

Re: Rajon Rondo: Return In January Isn't Realistic
« Reply #37 on: December 23, 2013, 06:53:36 PM »

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  If he comes back pretty much in between Xmas and the ASB then it'll be pretty hard to convince anyone that one of those guesses was nonsense and the other was "proper thinking".

I suppose you're right. betting toward the mean instead of being wildly optimistic isn't a smarter way of gauging a return from injury.

In the mean time, I'm still anxiously awaiting the official publication of sonatas 1-35 of bballtim's Rajon Rondo; Infallible Point God Par Excellence. 8)
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Re: Rajon Rondo: Return In January Isn't Realistic
« Reply #38 on: December 23, 2013, 07:22:30 PM »

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I think Danny will trade off more none future players ....before the seasons end ......making finishing out the lottery difficult.

Re: Rajon Rondo: Return In January Isn't Realistic
« Reply #39 on: December 23, 2013, 09:31:03 PM »

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As always, I await the commentary of everyone who swore that Rondo would make his return as fast as possible because he is a competitor, unlike that no-talent glass-kneed weak-willed Derrick Rose.

 ::)

  Someone told you he'd be back as soon as he was cleared for contact and without getting into game shape?

  In any case, if he comes back at all this year he'll probably be ahead of the pace of weak-willed Derrick Rose.

First it was "he'll be back by training camp," then "he'll be back in November," then "he'll definitely be back before Christmas," sprinkled all the while with a whole bunch of "Adrian Peterson, Adrian Peterson, it's about how hard you want it, Rondo's a competitor" nonsense.

Everyone who was thinking properly said he'd probably be out until about the All-Star break, and we all got lambasted for it. It's interesting to see the perception between players on a given team and other players.

As always, I await the commentary of everyone who swore that Rondo would make his return as fast as possible because he is a competitor, unlike that no-talent glass-kneed weak-willed Derrick Rose.

 ::)

The difference is that the Bulls weren't tanking, we are.  It wouldn't make any sense for Rondo to make a comeback in a throwaway season (with brand new coach and bunch of parts). 

The Bulls certainly had the chance to knock off Miami with the way Noah, Deng, and Nate were playing.  With Rose coming back when he was declared, it would make huge difference but instead he rode the bench as a coward that he truely was and watched his team fought and struggle

If you think the Bulls really had a chance to knock of Miami in the playoffs by suddenly reintroducing Rose into the mix at the eleventh hour, I would like to partake in your herbal prescription.

I was certainly guilty of a couple of Rondo return predictions that have since passed.  The information that I have read led me to believe that typical recovery time from ACL surgery was somewhere between 8 to 12 months. 

Eight months would have been mid October, while twelve months will come in the middle of February.  I admit that I leaned towards the optimistic side in my predictions.  If optimism is a sign of "improper" thinking, then I guess it's just a failing of mine that I'll have to learn to live with. 


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