Challenge: Help Trade Boston Down the Standings

[saltlover]

I would never trade away good players for bad ones in hopes that we get a better one in the draft. To me that is saying every week someone hits the lottery, but we have to remember every week more people lose everything they have than people win the lottery.

I'm going to hold out hope that we don't make the playoffs and get a good pick without doing anything stupid (like trading Rondo for a bag of chips).

I agree with one of the other posters that getting rid of Bass would hurt our team the most IMO.

If we can keep Rondo, JG, Sully, KO and maybe AB I would prefer that.

Everyone else should be given away to make us worse, that I agree with.

Boston - Wallace, Bass, Lee
New York - Amare, Hardaway Jr.

That's a good start in the right direction.

It's not trading away good players for nothing in hopes of improving your lottery balls. I'm firmly against that and that's a good way to destroy your team. Danny don't play like dat (Homie Da Clown voice)

However, trading away players who are helping us win this season for players that will help us win past this season is a good plan and I imagine the direction Danny will take. While still getting equal "value" of course...

I think that's the direction Danny will want to take.  I just don't see it happening.  It is too much of a buyer's market this year to get a very good deal, and with his haul from Brooklyn, he's likely spoiled.

[dreamgreen]

I would never trade away good players for bad ones in hopes that we get a better one in the draft. To me that is saying every week someone hits the lottery, but we have to remember every week more people lose everything they have than people win the lottery.

I'm going to hold out hope that we don't make the playoffs and get a good pick without doing anything stupid (like trading Rondo for a bag of chips).

I agree with one of the other posters that getting rid of Bass would hurt our team the most IMO.

If we can keep Rondo, JG, Sully, KO and maybe AB I would prefer that.

Everyone else should be given away to make us worse, that I agree with.

Boston - Wallace, Bass, Lee
New York - Amare, Hardaway Jr.

That's a good start in the right direction.

Why would not want to see us in the playoffs? You just said yourself that banking on the lottery is a gamble. It's as much of a gamble to hope the team doesn't succeed this year, only so we can better next year with a draft pick which may or may not pan out.

Risk involved with that as well.

Well in my example I trade bass who I do not consider a part of the future. With our current team (which I like btw) I do not want to make the playoffs, I'd rather take my chance in the draft. I just don't want to give up what I think is our core of the future to get in the lottery, I think we can get rid of some the others and get there.

[djbilly33]

I don't understand the idea or need to want to see the Celtics trade down in the standings.

I really don't.

They're in first place in the Atlantic Division, let's enjoy it.

Really, you are proud we are in first with an 8-12 record?  You're nuts!! with 2 less wins we'd be in the lottery. TANK!!!

[saltlover]

I don't understand the idea or need to want to see the Celtics trade down in the standings.

I really don't.

They're in first place in the Atlantic Division, let's enjoy it.

Really, you are proud we are in first with an 8-12 record?  You're nuts!! with 2 less wins we'd be in the lottery. TANK!!!

I think you should go look at the lottery odds before you get so excited about it.  Personally, I'm pleased that this team, without it's best player, has done so well.  Perhaps it means we're closer to being competitive than many of us thought.  We have more first rounders than any other team in the next five years, and the way the nets are playing right now, and their salary cap situation going forward, some of those will be lottery picks.  If there's some player Danny really wants in this draft, aside from #1 overall, he'll have the assets to trade for him.  In the meanwhile, enjoy the wins, and know that losses are okay too.

[gpap]

I would never trade away good players for bad ones in hopes that we get a better one in the draft. To me that is saying every week someone hits the lottery, but we have to remember every week more people lose everything they have than people win the lottery.

I'm going to hold out hope that we don't make the playoffs and get a good pick without doing anything stupid (like trading Rondo for a bag of chips).

I agree with one of the other posters that getting rid of Bass would hurt our team the most IMO.

If we can keep Rondo, JG, Sully, KO and maybe AB I would prefer that.

Everyone else should be given away to make us worse, that I agree with.

Boston - Wallace, Bass, Lee
New York - Amare, Hardaway Jr.

That's a good start in the right direction.

Why would not want to see us in the playoffs? You just said yourself that banking on the lottery is a gamble. It's as much of a gamble to hope the team doesn't succeed this year, only so we can better next year with a draft pick which may or may not pan out.

Risk involved with that as well.

Well in my example I trade bass who I do not consider a part of the future. With our current team (which I like btw) I do not want to make the playoffs, I'd rather take my chance in the draft. I just don't want to give up what I think is our core of the future to get in the lottery, I think we can get rid of some the others and get there.

I understand, just disagree in philosophy. I personally would LOVE to see us in the playoffs if for no other reason because everyone wanted to see us tank and thought we were going to bad. Granted, more of a testament to how bad the NBA is right now, but still.

And for me personally, I think not being good enough to make the playoffs and not bad enough to earn a top 5 pick is the WORSE place you can be in.

That to me, is no man's land.

I understand there are a few exceptions, but normally with the shortage of talent coming out of college, no way would I be satisfied with a draft pick in the 10-20 range. And that includes this much "ballyhooed" upcoming draft.

[gpap]

I don't understand the idea or need to want to see the Celtics trade down in the standings.

I really don't.

They're in first place in the Atlantic Division, let's enjoy it.

Really, you are proud we are in first with an 8-12 record?  You're nuts!! with 2 less wins we'd be in the lottery. TANK!!!

No comment other than I would suggest you take a look at the standings in the NBA.

[Endless Paradise]

I would never trade away good players for bad ones in hopes that we get a better one in the draft. To me that is saying every week someone hits the lottery, but we have to remember every week more people lose everything they have than people win the lottery.

I'm going to hold out hope that we don't make the playoffs and get a good pick without doing anything stupid (like trading Rondo for a bag of chips).

I agree with one of the other posters that getting rid of Bass would hurt our team the most IMO.

If we can keep Rondo, JG, Sully, KO and maybe AB I would prefer that.

Everyone else should be given away to make us worse, that I agree with.

Boston - Wallace, Bass, Lee
New York - Amare, Hardaway Jr.

That's a good start in the right direction.

Why would not want to see us in the playoffs? You just said yourself that banking on the lottery is a gamble. It's as much of a gamble to hope the team doesn't succeed this year, only so we can better next year with a draft pick which may or may not pan out.

Risk involved with that as well.

Well in my example I trade bass who I do not consider a part of the future. With our current team (which I like btw) I do not want to make the playoffs, I'd rather take my chance in the draft. I just don't want to give up what I think is our core of the future to get in the lottery, I think we can get rid of some the others and get there.

I understand, just disagree in philosophy. I personally would LOVE to see us in the playoffs if for no other reason because everyone wanted to see us tank and thought we were going to bad. Granted, more of a testament to how bad the NBA is right now, but still.

And for me personally, I think not being good enough to make the playoffs and not bad enough to earn a top 5 pick is the WORSE place you can be in.

That to me, is no man's land.

I understand there are a few exceptions, but normally with the shortage of talent coming out of college, no way would I be satisfied with a draft pick in the 10-20 range. And that includes this much "ballyhooed" upcoming draft.

I'm guessing your stance is that by making the playoffs, you at least have the chance to advance in the postseason, even if you end up with a mediocre draft pick.  On the flip side, missing the playoffs means you also have a chance at ending up with a top 3 pick, a la Chicago in 2008.

[LooseCannon]

And for me personally, I think not being good enough to make the playoffs and not bad enough to earn a top 5 pick is the WORSE place you can be in.

That to me, is no man's land.

I don't see a reason to believe that if the Celtics end up in that range this season that they will be in that range next season.

The problem isn't being in no man's land, it's being stuck in non man's land with no obvious way of getting out.