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Who do you think starts at center for this season?

Sully
11 (18%)
Humphries
33 (54.1%)
Fab Melo
5 (8.2%)
Faverani
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Re: Who's the starting center?
« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2013, 05:31:20 PM »

Offline clover

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Sullinger. Easy choice. Best rebounder in the lineup, will pin or man handle his man, high iq and motor. Proved himself as a starter imo

I dont get how hump gets the nod over sully. Both are 6'9 , sully has actually a longer wingspan, higher iq, skills, better rebounder. Hump is a little quicker and jumps higher but thats it

I agree, a lot of similarities, these differences are minuscule, but KH is 1/2" taller w/o shoes, and he's got an inch higher standing reach.

My hope is that JS and KO are the starting combo, Humphries and Bass the second team--if they really can't get rid of Bass, especially.

Yup. And sully has 7'2 wingspan and hump has 7'0. Ppl think sully is like 6'7 and hump is 6'10. Its not true

Sully looks short but is def 6'9 per pre draft measurements.

I don't know that anyone actually thinks that, but the NBA habit of measuring with shoes on is bogus anyway--w/o shoes is what's legit.

Re: Who's the starting center?
« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2013, 05:37:00 PM »

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Sullinger. Easy choice. Best rebounder in the lineup, will pin or man handle his man, high iq and motor. Proved himself as a starter imo

I dont get how hump gets the nod over sully. Both are 6'9 , sully has actually a longer wingspan, higher iq, skills, better rebounder. Hump is a little quicker and jumps higher but thats it

I agree, a lot of similarities, these differences are minuscule, but KH is 1/2" taller w/o shoes, and he's got an inch higher standing reach.

My hope is that JS and KO are the starting combo, Humphries and Bass the second team--if they really can't get rid of Bass, especially.

Yup. And sully has 7'2 wingspan and hump has 7'0. Ppl think sully is like 6'7 and hump is 6'10. Its not true

Sully looks short but is def 6'9 per pre draft measurements.

I don't know that anyone actually thinks that, but the NBA habit of measuring with shoes on is bogus anyway--w/o shoes is what's legit.


They measure with shoes b/c you don't play basketball barefoot, is my guess.
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Re: Who's the starting center?
« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2013, 05:38:17 PM »

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I don't know that anyone actually thinks that, but the NBA habit of measuring with shoes on is bogus anyway--w/o shoes is what's legit.
Measuring with shoes is just fine. And Sullinger's problem is not his size or wingspan, it's his nonexistent vertical.

Coincidentally, Olynyk's vertical was even worse, IIRC, so this front court can be one for the ages.

edit: Of course, Sullinger measured just fine at the combine, so here's to hoping that his quite evident lack of lift last season is attributable to the back condition he had.
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Re: Who's the starting center?
« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2013, 05:48:03 PM »

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Sullinger. Easy choice. Best rebounder in the lineup, will pin or man handle his man, high iq and motor. Proved himself as a starter imo

I dont get how hump gets the nod over sully. Both are 6'9 , sully has actually a longer wingspan, higher iq, skills, better rebounder. Hump is a little quicker and jumps higher but thats it

People mentioning Humphries, like me, are probably implying that Sully is our starting PF.

So this is not about getting a nod over Sully.

With hump at c and sully at pf there is little to no balance upfront. Both guys do their damage under the basket.  Where is the skill from mid perimeter going to come from? Thats why imo sully at c and olynyk at pf is ideal. I could be wrong and both or one ends up being ideal guys off the bench. But better risk to give them a try bc no way we will go anywhere with hump or bass being starters

Sullinger is actually a good shooter. You can do pick and pop just fine with Sully if needed.

Re: Who's the starting center?
« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2013, 06:49:31 PM »

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Sullinger. Easy choice. Best rebounder in the lineup, will pin or man handle his man, high iq and motor. Proved himself as a starter imo

I dont get how hump gets the nod over sully. Both are 6'9 , sully has actually a longer wingspan, higher iq, skills, better rebounder. Hump is a little quicker and jumps higher but thats it

I agree, a lot of similarities, these differences are minuscule, but KH is 1/2" taller w/o shoes, and he's got an inch higher standing reach.

My hope is that JS and KO are the starting combo, Humphries and Bass the second team--if they really can't get rid of Bass, especially.

Yup. And sully has 7'2 wingspan and hump has 7'0. Ppl think sully is like 6'7 and hump is 6'10. Its not true

Sully looks short but is def 6'9 per pre draft measurements.

I don't know that anyone actually thinks that, but the NBA habit of measuring with shoes on is bogus anyway--w/o shoes is what's legit.

Sully measured 6'9" with shoes and hump measured 6'10" with shoes. 

Hump is also better conditioned and more athletic so may be better equipped to handle playing big a starter minutes.

I don't get how anyone can say Sully is a better rebound....hump has been one of the top rebounded in the NBA ever since he came in to the league.

Finally hump is a reasonably capable shot bblocker, while Sully is not.

I think Sully's lack of shot blocking a ability combinedwwith his solid inside/outside game makes him better suited to the PF spot because he can step out to the point range and stretch the offense.

We all saw how bad we were last season with either Sully or Bass at center...with no shot bblocker out the we got killed inside, giving up layups at will.  I would rather start even Melo at center before I'd se either bass or sully man that position again.

Re: Who's the starting center?
« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2013, 07:36:56 PM »

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Re: Who's the starting center?
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2013, 07:51:40 PM »

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You really want to see Sully doin jump balls? Really?
There are three roles for the center. Offense, defense and starting each half with the jump ball. Sully ain't jumping.
Sully is a low post operator, but not a shot blocker.

Olynyk is white so that roles him out.

Faverani can do jump balls, so unless u want people laughin their asses off when we go to start the game, I suggest we start Faverani.

Re: Who's the starting center?
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2013, 09:16:59 PM »

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Since the question is "Who do you think will start at center?", I'm saying Humphries.

If the question was "Who would you like to start at center?", I'd take my man Olynyk.

Re: Who's the starting center?
« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2013, 11:48:35 PM »

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Both sully and oly may not jump kg high, but they both jump quickly off the ground . that is something not measured or really valued for. But its a tool useful for 70 percent of the game vs skying for rebounds or putbacks

Re: Who's the starting center?
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2013, 11:54:31 PM »

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I don't know that anyone actually thinks that, but the NBA habit of measuring with shoes on is bogus anyway--w/o shoes is what's legit.
Measuring with shoes is just fine. And Sullinger's problem is not his size or wingspan, it's his nonexistent vertical.

Coincidentally, Olynyk's vertical was even worse, IIRC, so this front court can be one for the ages.

edit: Of course, Sullinger measured just fine at the combine, so here's to hoping that his quite evident lack of lift last season is attributable to the back condition he had.

Having back problems really does a number on your verticality.
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Re: Who's the starting center?
« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2013, 12:27:04 AM »

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I would really like to see the Brazilian duo hold down the center position for the most part just to see what they've got. The PF position can be sorted out via competition on who earns the PT between Sully, Bass & Olynyk.

Re: Who's the starting center?
« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2013, 12:40:13 AM »

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Can't believe I'm saying this but I'm kind of hyped for Hump.

Learning that he's 6'9 and a HALF sure helps.

Re: Who's the starting center?
« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2013, 01:25:20 AM »

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I don't know that anyone actually thinks that, but the NBA habit of measuring with shoes on is bogus anyway--w/o shoes is what's legit.
Measuring with shoes is just fine. And Sullinger's problem is not his size or wingspan, it's his nonexistent vertical.

Coincidentally, Olynyk's vertical was even worse, IIRC, so this front court can be one for the ages.

edit: Of course, Sullinger measured just fine at the combine, so here's to hoping that his quite evident lack of lift last season is attributable to the back condition he had.

Having back problems really does a number on your verticality.
To be fair, its not the jumping part that gets difficult with a bad back, its the landing part. After landing after jumping enough times on a bad back, you tend to jump less high to cushion the blow.

Re: Who's the starting center?
« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2013, 01:39:48 AM »

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Re: Who's the starting center?
« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2013, 01:55:58 AM »

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Any one other than Humphries would be a silly mistake.

I can't wait to see Faverani though. If he is as ineffective (despite it being for different reasons) as Fab, I'd get a kick out of seeing them on the court together. Watching from home... that's free and comparable to a Vegas show.

Serious question: is it possible Fab is still under contract with the Cs but drops to a lower caliber league? Could he remain under contract with the Cs but play for the Springfield Slamm?
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