Brandon Jennings to Detroit Pistons via S&T

[nickagneta]

I was thinking, aren't Brandon Jennings, Rodney Stuckey Brandon Knight and Will Bynum just about the exact same type of player?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=jennibr01&y1=2013&p2=knighbr03&y2=2013&p3=bynumwi01&y3=2013&p4=stuckro01&y4=2013

Check out their career Per36 numbers and some of their advanced numbers.

Yeah, they come in slightly different sizes but they are all combo guards that kind of have to play PG because they are bad defending SGs, aren't very good shooters or passers or rebounders and extremely inefficient scorers.

One of the worst things that ever happened to this league was Allen Iverson. An entire generation of NBA guards trying to emulate him has produced some of the most horrific shoot first PGs this league has ever and will ever see but because there are so many guard positions to fill in the NBA, they stick in the league.

Strange that Joe Dumars has such an affliction for such players.

[Eddie20]

Detroit isn't a playoff team to me.

Go ahead and try to name 8 teams that make it ahead of them.

Miami
Chicago
Indiana
Brooklyn
New York
Atlanta
Washington
Cleveland

Those last three teams will compete with Detroit, but I think the Pistons' lack of shooting will end up shooting them in the foot.

I would love to take that bet! You mention outside shooting, but Jennings, Billups, Kandwell-Pope, Singler, and Gigi can all shoot and provide spacing. Jennings is getting a bad rap on his shooting ability because he and Ellis had to force a lot of stuff for the offensively challenged Bucks team. However, he is really good on spot up jumpers and will probably see more open looks then he ever has.

[manl_lui]

that's pretty good for Detroit...not sure about who is involved in the trade but a lineup of Greg Monroe, Josh Smith, and Drummond is going to be awesome!

[Birdman]

Detroit isn't a playoff team to me.

Jennings/Bynum/Billups
Stuckey/Caldwell-Pope
Smith/Singler/Datome
Monroe/Villanueva/Jerebko
Drummond

There's talent, but it doesn't fit.

good starting lineup, not great...plus no bench..8th or 9th seed

[LooseCannon]

One of the worst things that ever happened to this league was Allen Iverson. An entire generation of NBA guards trying to emulate him has produced some of the most horrific shoot first PGs this league has ever and will ever see but because there are so many guard positions to fill in the NBA, they stick in the league.

That's good for teams with GMs who avoid such players.

[clover]

Jennings gave Rondo a very hard time last year IIRC.

One game of four... he wasn't good in the rest, downright terrible in the one after it.

I guess that was a memorable game! 

[gpap]

Stuckey, Jennings, and Smith are all ball hogs and head cases. I don't see this ending well.

Well, they're no Phil Pressey, that's for sure (jk!)

[CelticsFan9]

Detroit isn't a playoff team to me.

Go ahead and try to name 8 teams that make it ahead of them.

Miami
Chicago
Indiana
Brooklyn
New York
Atlanta
Washington
Cleveland

Those last three teams will compete with Detroit, but I think the Pistons' lack of shooting will end up shooting them in the foot.

I would love to take that bet! You mention outside shooting, but Jennings, Billups, Kandwell-Pope, Singler, and Gigi can all shoot and provide spacing. Jennings is getting a bad rap on his shooting ability because he and Ellis had to force a lot of stuff for the offensively challenged Bucks team. However, he is really good on spot up jumpers and will probably see more open looks then he ever has.

I don't doubt that Jennings will get better looks in Detroit than he did in Milwaukee, but I do doubt that he'll get many of them.

Stopping Detroit shouldn't be that hard.  Dare Smith to shoot (and Stuckey if he's starting, as he isn't a great shooter either), box Drummond out, and let Jennings and Monroe run PNRs (Monroe struggles in the PNR, and Jennings never took advantage of what could've been a great combo of him and Sanders in Milwaukee.).

Defensively, Jennings and Monroe are lazy, and Smith is prone to not boxing out, relying on his athleticism for rebounds.  Drummond should be good in the middle, but I'm worried about the wing.  Very vulnerable.

[Eddie20]

Vincent Goodwill @vgoodwill
Text from an exec: "what a steal". My reply: "For which side?" Exec: "Detroit. $8 million is a steal".

[CelticsFan9]

Vincent Goodwill @vgoodwill
Text from an exec: "what a steal". My reply: "For which side?" Exec: "Detroit. $8 million is a steal".

I don't think that's a steal necessarily, but I do think that's good value for Jennings.

I think Jeff Teague got $8 million a year, too.  They're in the same tier of PGs to me.

[staticcc]

Jennings + Smith + Monroe < Johnson + Smith + Horford.

Drummond is still developing, this Pistons team will be the new Hawks. Automatic 1st round exit.

[pearljammer10]

i actually think BJ might be a better fit then Rondo, now they need a 3 point spot up shooting gaurd, then IMO they will be fighting for top 5-6 in the east.

Great defensive team as is, drummond and josh smith downlow.

Hmm, Brandon Jennings is quite terrible... very overrated, until one actually takes care to analyze how he actually plays. He's not good. Simply a skillful player who doesn't know how to use it.

Jennings is by far one of my top 3 least favorite players. Talent wise and persona wise.

[D.o.s.]

I was thinking, aren't Brandon Jennings, Rodney Stuckey Brandon Knight and Will Bynum just about the exact same type of player?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=jennibr01&y1=2013&p2=knighbr03&y2=2013&p3=bynumwi01&y3=2013&p4=stuckro01&y4=2013

Check out their career Per36 numbers and some of their advanced numbers.

Yeah, they come in slightly different sizes but they are all combo guards that kind of have to play PG because they are bad defending SGs, aren't very good shooters or passers or rebounders and extremely inefficient scorers.

One of the worst things that ever happened to this league was Allen Iverson. An entire generation of NBA guards trying to emulate him has produced some of the most horrific shoot first PGs this league has ever and will ever see but because there are so many guard positions to fill in the NBA, they stick in the league.

Strange that Joe Dumars has such an affliction for such players.

Dumars definitely has a thing for Iverson-lite guys (and even past-his-prime Iverson).

Jennings is probably the best of the bunch, though--not counting AI himself.

[bleedGREENdon]

lets make a bet here, pistons have a better year then our celtics, you guys on here say brandon jennings is so bad and this is such a terrible move, and josh smith sucks , thats all I read on this blog.

I love rondo, I love KO, I love green and I love our boston celtics, but the Detroit Pistons made moves this offseason that bettered there team and made them a playoff team and if their talent comes together they will have a contender, Thats all we would want at this point.

I will make a bet with anyone on this site that Brandon Jennings and the Detroit Pistons have a better year then our celtics. If brandon jennings is so bad like people say( WITHOUT EVEN WATCHING HIM PLAY) and Josh Smith is so terrible, then this should be a lock bet for you guys.

[sed522002]

lets make a bet here, pistons have a better year then our celtics, you guys on here say brandon jennings is so bad and this is such a terrible move, and josh smith sucks , thats all I read on this blog.

I love rondo, I love KO, I love green and I love our boston celtics, but the Detroit Pistons made moves this offseason that bettered there team and made them a playoff team and if their talent comes together they will have a contender, Thats all we would want at this point.

I will make a bet with anyone on this site that Brandon Jennings and the Detroit Pistons have a better year then our celtics. If brandon jennings is so bad like people say( WITHOUT EVEN WATCHING HIM PLAY) and Josh Smith is so terrible, then this should be a lock bet for you guys.

I don't think they're terrible, but their shot selection is questionable (which I don't think anyone can deny)..should be interesting to see how it works.