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Anyone else hoping the Nikola Pekovic negotiations go bad
« on: July 19, 2013, 11:08:12 AM »

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Apparently, Pekovic and his agent are going to sit down with Minnesota managemnent next year and attempt to come to a settlement on his contract. But, of course, if things go bad there is always the option of Pekovic just taking the qualifying offer and becoming an unrestricted free agent next year.

With Sully, Green, Olynyk, Rondo and Bradley what is really missing for the Celtics is a big center who can dominate the bounds, be the inside rim protector and score inside. Pekovic would be an ideal addition. I really like this guy's game. If there was a way for the Celtics toopen some space next year and go after him as an UFA, if Pekovic did just take the qualifying offer from Minny, I would do it.

But I doubt that happens. But what could happen is Minny caves and gives him a 5 year deal which would anger Kevin Love soooooo much that he would probably start demanding a trade out of Minny. And that could be a good thing for the Celtics too as we all know the best place for a disgruntled All-Star Timberwolf power forward is in Boston. ;D
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Re: Anyone else hoping the Nikola Pekovic negotiations go bad
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2013, 11:43:33 AM »

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Pekovic is HUGE.
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Re: Anyone else hoping the Nikola Pekovic negotiations go bad
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2013, 12:00:07 PM »

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Heres what happens:

All teams use up most or all of their capspace.

Negotiations go so bad that pekovic refuses to stay in minny, that he'll take the qualifying offer and go elsewhere next year.

Minny is desparate not to lose him for nothing.

C's offer a protected 1st from the nets and a deal for pekovic starting at 9-10 mil, fitting into the trade exception slot!
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2013, 12:02:15 PM »

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If Pekovic were willing to take a 4 year 40 million dollar deal I think he'd have signed with Minnesota already.
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Re: Anyone else hoping the Nikola Pekovic negotiations go bad
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2013, 12:04:18 PM »

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Bill Simmons had discussed him actually. He's wondering about the lack of offers he's getting.

I agree when he said any team who can afford should offer him $11 million a year. At first it sounds overpaying but when you look at it, you'll be paying a guy who averages a close double double and could provide the things Nick said already. I would not mind overpaying for that. And at worse, you put the Wolves in a situation where they have to think of matching it.

Can we offer $11 million for him right now, because we should.
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Re: Anyone else hoping the Nikola Pekovic negotiations go bad
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2013, 12:06:59 PM »

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Quote from: Fan from VT on July 19, 2013, 12:00:07 PM
Heres what happens:

All teams use up most or all of their capspace.

Negotiations go so bad that pekovic refuses to stay in minny, that he'll take the qualifying offer and go elsewhere next year.

Minny is desparate not to lose him for nothing.

C's offer a protected 1st from the nets and a deal for pekovic starting at 9-10 mil, fitting into the trade exception slot!

Can't do that, we're under a hard cap.
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2013, 12:09:08 PM »

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Quote from: BudweiserCeltic on July 19, 2013, 12:06:59 PM
Quote from: Fan from VT on July 19, 2013, 12:00:07 PM
Heres what happens:

All teams use up most or all of their capspace.

Negotiations go so bad that pekovic refuses to stay in minny, that he'll take the qualifying offer and go elsewhere next year.

Minny is desparate not to lose him for nothing.

C's offer a protected 1st from the nets and a deal for pekovic starting at 9-10 mil, fitting into the trade exception slot!

Can't do that, we're under a hard cap.
We could next year when he'd be a FA, but then we'd be competing with the rest of the league and would have to send some compensation to Minnesota.
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2013, 12:16:20 PM »

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I thought Minnesota were offering Pekovic $12 million a year.

Sounds like it will take a max deal to get him to sign if he is turning that down.
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2013, 12:18:58 PM »

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Quote from: nickagneta
But I doubt that happens. But what could happen is Minny caves and gives him a 5 year deal which would anger Kevin Love soooooo much that he would probably start demanding a trade out of Minny. And that could be a good thing for the Celtics too as we all know the best place for a disgruntled All-Star Timberwolf power forward is in Boston. ;D

Please lord no...

We already have 50 PF's right now, and I do not want to see another unathletic, undersized, jump shooting power forward brought in.

Kevin Love is rediculously overrated.  He's the purest example of a player who scores a ton of points simply because he takes a ton of attempts.  His percentages are mediocre from just about everwhere from the floor (especially inside, disturbingly) and he is a horrendous defender.

We have two promising PF's in Sully and Olynyk, and I think both of them have the potential to become 90% of Kevin Love for a fraction of the price.

I would rather see a proper center like Gortat or Pekovic here rather than waste a max contract on a shotjacking PF
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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2013, 12:24:39 PM »

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Quote from: crimson_stallion on July 19, 2013, 12:18:58 PM
Kevin Love is rediculously overrated.  He's the purest example of a player who scores a ton of points simply because he takes a ton of attempts.  His percentages are mediocre from just about everwhere from the floor (especially inside, disturbingly)
Huh?

Look at his heat map and percentages his last healthy year.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01/shooting/2012/

He's not a good 2 point jump shooter, but he's not awful. He's meh at the rim for a big man, but when you factor in his offensive rebounding prowess that 60% works out better in practice than the stats will tell you. (Similar to Carmelo) But he's an above league average three point shooter, and far better than average three point shooter for a big man.

.550 TS isn't an inefficient scorer, nor is he a chucker.
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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2013, 12:24:47 PM »

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The Timberwolves made Pekovic an offer -- believed to be a four-year deal worth as much as $50 million -- and Taylor said Pekovic's camp made a counterproposal.
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"My sense is, I think we both know he's going to be playing for our team next year," Taylor said. "I think we're just dealing with an element time of here. I would tell you I'm very positive that he'll play for our team. What we have left isn't something that can't be resolved. There doesn't seem to be a lot of pressure on us or him to get it done. A meet has been set up in the future.

"I'm confident it'll get done. I've been through so many of things. You say, `It's just money, Glen.' I think we'll get it done. He's an important part of our team. He wants to be back and we want him here."

http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolves/216108651.html
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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2013, 12:28:30 PM »

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I guess Pekovic was expecting Roy Hibbert money.
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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2013, 12:34:18 PM »

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Quote from: Fan from VT on July 19, 2013, 12:00:07 PM
Heres what happens:

All teams use up most or all of their capspace.

Negotiations go so bad that pekovic refuses to stay in minny, that he'll take the qualifying offer and go elsewhere next year.

Minny is desparate not to lose him for nothing.

C's offer a protected 1st from the nets and a deal for pekovic starting at 9-10 mil, fitting into the trade exception slot!

According to Star Tribune the problem for Pekovic is that noone has given him an offer sheet that is better than the 50M $/4 years, that the Wolves reportedly will give him. His agent has probably said that he deserves a max contract (55M @/4 years). Such an offer would have to start at about 12M $/year, and nearly all teams with that much cap space have already made moves, that makes it impossible. Only Milwaukee remains, and they have Larry Sanders, who they probably want to extend this summer.

Quote from: crimson_stallion on July 19, 2013, 12:18:58 PM
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But I doubt that happens. But what could happen is Minny caves and gives him a 5 year deal which would anger Kevin Love soooooo much that he would probably start demanding a trade out of Minny. And that could be a good thing for the Celtics too as we all know the best place for a disgruntled All-Star Timberwolf power forward is in Boston. ;D

Please lord no...

We already have 50 PF's right now, and I do not want to see another unathletic, undersized, jump shooting power forward brought in.

Kevin Love is rediculously overrated.  He's the purest example of a player who scores a ton of points simply because he takes a ton of attempts.  His percentages are mediocre from just about everwhere from the floor (especially inside, disturbingly) and he is a horrendous defender.

We have two promising PF's in Sully and Olynyk, and I think both of them have the potential to become 90% of Kevin Love for a fraction of the price.

I would rather see a proper center like Gortat or Pekovic here rather than waste a max contract on a shotjacking PF

Kevin Love at 6'10 isn't undersized. He is an exceptional rebounder, and normally he shoots the three at a decent percentage. I would however not make him my franchise player, so we might agree that he is overrated (and that he sucks at defense).
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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2013, 12:36:46 PM »

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Pekovic doesn't block shots and is perceived as a mediocre defender, whose lack of speed makes him a poor help defender.  Probably not the guy you want anchoring a defense, if that's what you're looking for in a center, though he does have value defending Dwight Howard types.

He has roughly the same career defensive rebounding percentage as Brandon Bass, but his numbers went up last season, so that probably has something to do with having Kevin Love hoover up all the rebounds.
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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2013, 12:47:16 PM »

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Quote from: crimson_stallion on July 19, 2013, 12:18:58 PM
Please lord no...

We already have 50 PF's right now, and I do not want to see another unathletic, undersized, jump shooting power forward brought in.

Kevin Love is rediculously overrated.  He's the purest example of a player who scores a ton of points simply because he takes a ton of attempts.  His percentages are mediocre from just about everwhere from the floor (especially inside, disturbingly) and he is a horrendous defender.

You might have a point on the defense but that is about it. I would argue that his rebounding does contribute to a defensive statistic. Rebounds are essential to any successful defensive sequence.

I'll also pile on and say that Love is an exceptional player. For his career he's averaged 17/12 on 45% shooting and 35% from 3. He's sort of an anomaly because he shoots so well for a banger. I'd like him to lay off the mid range game because those are the worst shots in the NBA but I can't argue with his production there. I felt the same about KG.

So yeah give me KLove in a hot second. Pek will be an overpaid stiff in 3 years. I'll give up anything on our current roster and any picks they want for KLove faster than you can blink. Except Rondo =)
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