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Tanking
« on: July 18, 2013, 06:50:54 AM »

Offline Yogi

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There has been a lot of talk about the Celtics tanking.  Here is a great article from last year studying the issue. 

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/40055/does-tanking-even-work
CelticsBlog DKC Pelicans
J. Lin/I. Canaan/N. Wolters
E. Gordon/A. Shved
N. Batum/A. Roberson
A. Davis/K. Olynyk/M. Scott
D. Cousins/A. Baynes/V. Faverani
Rights: A. Abrines, R. Neto, L. Jean-Charles  Coach: M. Williams

Re: Tanking
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2013, 08:02:33 AM »

Offline SHAQATTACK

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teams like Bobcats small markets , have no other choice but to year after year play the NBA's game of getting bad to get better.

They will never get Kobe, James or Howard to sign there as a free agent.......

it takes stars to win it all ,   and that's the only way they are going to aquire the superstar talent.

small markets draft the stars ,  but can't keep them ,   Lakers wind up with all their star players on one team .

Luxury tax needs to be increased at large market teams and reduced at small market cities.   

I mean increased to the point at large markets , not even they can afford to go over the cap.....ever.

Re: Tanking
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2013, 08:40:54 AM »

Offline slamtheking

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teams like Bobcats small markets , have no other choice but to year after year play the NBA's game of getting bad to get better.

They will never get Kobe, James or Howard to sign there as a free agent.......

it takes stars to win it all ,   and that's the only way they are going to aquire the superstar talent.

small markets draft the stars ,  but can't keep them ,   Lakers wind up with all their star players on one team .

Luxury tax needs to be increased at large market teams and reduced at small market cities.   

I mean increased to the point at large markets , not even they can afford to go over the cap.....ever.
I think cases like Prokhorov (spelling?) and Cuban show that a deep-pockets owner will spend freely regardless of tax if they think they can win it all. 

I think the only way to really level the playing field (well, the only way that has even a remote chance of happening) is to enforce a hard cap that cannot be exceeded under any circumstance.  This would put the emphasis back on having a great GM to build a contender rather than semi-relying on having an owner that's willing to spend lots of money.

Re: Tanking
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2013, 09:48:01 AM »

Offline LilRip

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i'd much rather try my luck at the lottery this year in a potentially loaded draft and have assets later on rather than try to win a ring with Rondo-Green-Millsap for the next 5 years while being stuck in salary cap hell. i, for one, do not want the Celtics to be like Marbury's knicks.

superstars are a key piece in winning a championship, but all of us know it's a team game. it's important to get these stars help and thats why it still takes a savvy GM to build a contender. Take the Spurs for example. Yes, Duncan is a winner and makes them very good. But in order for them to remain relevant as contenders throughout these years, that's the work of a great GM: wise draft picks, trades, and signings.

even if we do get Wiggins, i'm pretty sure no one is (or at least, no one should be) expecting that we'll be immediate contenders and we'll win a ring on his rookie year. But in maybe 3 years? With wise picks/trades/signings? I think we'll be in the conversation and in a much better position to win a ring rather than if we had built around Rondo-Green-Millsap or whoever.
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