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Idea: Robin Lopez to Boston
« on: July 01, 2013, 08:49:13 PM »

Offline BleedGreen1989

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Boston Sends: Courtney Lee, 2014 2nd via BOS, 2015 2nd via SAC
Boston Receives: Robin Lopez

Boston gets a 25 year old athletic center to add to their core and fill their biggest need.

Memphis Sends: TPE
Memphis Receives: Courtney Lee

With no additional means to upgrade their roster, Memphis adds an athletic 2 guard who can defend at a high level and give them some much needed shooting. Also provides an insurance policy should they get outbid for Tony Allen.

New Orleans Sends: Robin Lopez
New Orleans Receives: TPE, 2014 2nd via BOS, 2015 2nd via SAC

New Orleans sheds Lopez's salary and gears up for a sign and trade to land them Tyreke Evans. Picks up a couple 2nd rounders in the process.
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Re: Idea: Robin Lopez to Boston
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2013, 09:06:58 PM »

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To clear salary for Tyreke Evans or sign-and-trade w/ Kings, Pelicans expected to try and unload Robin Lopez, league source tells Y!

I would love Lopez on our team. Isn't the word that we received a trade exception from the Nets deal? 5.3M is his 13-14 figure.

Not worth the trouble. He might be only 25 but what you see is what you're going to get. Like his brother, he's a poor rebounder and defender for their size, but a decent shot-blocker. Unlike his brother, his offensive game is no where near as polished.

Lopez is ideally a backup C. He'd only make sense if we could unload Bass in the trade, but the Pelicans are looking to clear cap room for Tyreke (lol), and are loaded with PFs as it is.
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Re: Idea: Robin Lopez to Boston
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2013, 09:10:14 PM »

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Quote from: BleedGreen1989 on July 01, 2013, 08:49:13 PM
Boston Sends: Courtney Lee, 2014 2nd via BOS, 2015 2nd via SAC
Boston Receives: Robin Lopez

Boston gets a 25 year old athletic center to add to their core and fill their biggest need.

Memphis Sends: TPE
Memphis Receives: Courtney Lee

With no additional means to upgrade their roster, Memphis adds an athletic 2 guard who can defend at a high level and give them some much needed shooting. Also provides an insurance policy should they get outbid for Tony Allen.

New Orleans Sends: Robin Lopez
New Orleans Receives: TPE, 2014 2nd via BOS, 2015 2nd via SAC

New Orleans sheds Lopez's salary and gears up for a sign and trade to land them Tyreke Evans. Picks up a couple 2nd rounders in the process.

Lopez is not a core guy and he's not worth 5+ million...
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Re: Idea: Robin Lopez to Boston
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2013, 09:16:44 PM »

Offline BleedGreen1989

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Quote from: Geo123 on July 01, 2013, 09:10:14 PM
Quote from: BleedGreen1989 on July 01, 2013, 08:49:13 PM
Boston Sends: Courtney Lee, 2014 2nd via BOS, 2015 2nd via SAC
Boston Receives: Robin Lopez

Boston gets a 25 year old athletic center to add to their core and fill their biggest need.

Memphis Sends: TPE
Memphis Receives: Courtney Lee

With no additional means to upgrade their roster, Memphis adds an athletic 2 guard who can defend at a high level and give them some much needed shooting. Also provides an insurance policy should they get outbid for Tony Allen.

New Orleans Sends: Robin Lopez
New Orleans Receives: TPE, 2014 2nd via BOS, 2015 2nd via SAC

New Orleans sheds Lopez's salary and gears up for a sign and trade to land them Tyreke Evans. Picks up a couple 2nd rounders in the process.

Lopez is not a core guy and he's not worth 5+ million...

Not worth $5mill? I disagree.

I didn't mean to come off as if he is a building block but if we could essentially trade Courtney Lee for Robin Lopez, you wouldn't do it?
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Re: Idea: Robin Lopez to Boston
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2013, 09:39:20 PM »

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Quote from: BleedGreen1989 on July 01, 2013, 09:16:44 PM
Quote from: Geo123 on July 01, 2013, 09:10:14 PM
Quote from: BleedGreen1989 on July 01, 2013, 08:49:13 PM
Boston Sends: Courtney Lee, 2014 2nd via BOS, 2015 2nd via SAC
Boston Receives: Robin Lopez

Boston gets a 25 year old athletic center to add to their core and fill their biggest need.

Memphis Sends: TPE
Memphis Receives: Courtney Lee

With no additional means to upgrade their roster, Memphis adds an athletic 2 guard who can defend at a high level and give them some much needed shooting. Also provides an insurance policy should they get outbid for Tony Allen.

New Orleans Sends: Robin Lopez
New Orleans Receives: TPE, 2014 2nd via BOS, 2015 2nd via SAC

New Orleans sheds Lopez's salary and gears up for a sign and trade to land them Tyreke Evans. Picks up a couple 2nd rounders in the process.

Lopez is not a core guy and he's not worth 5+ million...

Not worth $5mill? I disagree.

I didn't mean to come off as if he is a building block but if we could essentially trade Courtney Lee for Robin Lopez, you wouldn't do it?

I'd do it.

Lopez isn't a core guy, but he is solid and I'd say at 25 he still has a bit of room to continue to develop (I'm not saying by much, but some veteran polish maybe).

We need somebody to anchor our front court for the rebuild and Lopez is solid enough to be a starting C, but not too good to ruin your chances at getting a good lottery pick. I'd rather pay him 5m a year than Lee considering our other SG options. Olynyk is going to see serious minutes, but spend some of his time at PF and I don't think Melo is ready for meaningful NBA minutes. 

Lopez could be our rebuild starting center. Basically a stop gap until we get the center of our future and then he slots in nicely as a quality back up.

Plus I think we'd be able to get a better return than what we're giving up if we were to trade Lopez at the deadline to a contender in the future.
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Re: Idea: Robin Lopez to Boston
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2013, 09:40:59 PM »

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Quote from: BleedGreen1989 on July 01, 2013, 09:16:44 PM
Quote from: Geo123 on July 01, 2013, 09:10:14 PM
Quote from: BleedGreen1989 on July 01, 2013, 08:49:13 PM
Boston Sends: Courtney Lee, 2014 2nd via BOS, 2015 2nd via SAC
Boston Receives: Robin Lopez

Boston gets a 25 year old athletic center to add to their core and fill their biggest need.

Memphis Sends: TPE
Memphis Receives: Courtney Lee

With no additional means to upgrade their roster, Memphis adds an athletic 2 guard who can defend at a high level and give them some much needed shooting. Also provides an insurance policy should they get outbid for Tony Allen.

New Orleans Sends: Robin Lopez
New Orleans Receives: TPE, 2014 2nd via BOS, 2015 2nd via SAC

New Orleans sheds Lopez's salary and gears up for a sign and trade to land them Tyreke Evans. Picks up a couple 2nd rounders in the process.

Lopez is not a core guy and he's not worth 5+ million...

Not worth $5mill? I disagree.

I didn't mean to come off as if he is a building block but if we could essentially trade Courtney Lee for Robin Lopez, you wouldn't do it?

why the heck would they want Lee? They are trading Lopez to shed salary, not to pay that salary to a smaller deep bench player instead.
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Re: Idea: Robin Lopez to Boston
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2013, 09:41:32 PM »

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Does it change anyone's mind if Lopez has a 15% trade kicker?
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Re: Idea: Robin Lopez to Boston
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2013, 09:46:16 PM »

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Quote from: hpantazo on July 01, 2013, 09:40:59 PM
Quote from: BleedGreen1989 on July 01, 2013, 09:16:44 PM
Quote from: Geo123 on July 01, 2013, 09:10:14 PM
Quote from: BleedGreen1989 on July 01, 2013, 08:49:13 PM
Boston Sends: Courtney Lee, 2014 2nd via BOS, 2015 2nd via SAC
Boston Receives: Robin Lopez

Boston gets a 25 year old athletic center to add to their core and fill their biggest need.

Memphis Sends: TPE
Memphis Receives: Courtney Lee

With no additional means to upgrade their roster, Memphis adds an athletic 2 guard who can defend at a high level and give them some much needed shooting. Also provides an insurance policy should they get outbid for Tony Allen.

New Orleans Sends: Robin Lopez
New Orleans Receives: TPE, 2014 2nd via BOS, 2015 2nd via SAC

New Orleans sheds Lopez's salary and gears up for a sign and trade to land them Tyreke Evans. Picks up a couple 2nd rounders in the process.

Lopez is not a core guy and he's not worth 5+ million...

Not worth $5mill? I disagree.

I didn't mean to come off as if he is a building block but if we could essentially trade Courtney Lee for Robin Lopez, you wouldn't do it?

why the heck would they want Lee? They are trading Lopez to shed salary, not to pay that salary to a smaller deep bench player instead.

If you read the trade idea, you would know that Lee would go to the Grizzlies and the Pelicans would get a TPE.
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Re: Idea: Robin Lopez to Boston
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2013, 09:53:37 PM »

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As I say in almost every thread in which I post lately, the Celtics can take on more salary than they are in the Nets trade, so all a third team that wants to salary dump needs to do is hop on (assuming the Celtics want to take on the salary).  They're allowed to take back at least $8 million in salary, and probably more, depending how much Bogans is getting paid.  There's no need to worry about trade exemptions, finding someone to take Lee, Bass, Humphries, etc.  If the Celtics wanted Lopez for the price New Orleans was asking,  he could be a Celtic.
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Re: Idea: Robin Lopez to Boston
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2013, 09:55:36 PM »

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Quote from: saltlover on July 01, 2013, 09:53:37 PM
As I say in almost every thread in which I post lately, the Celtics can take on more salary than they are in the Nets trade, so all a third team that wants to salary dump needs to do is hop on (assuming the Celtics want to take on the salary).  They're allowed to take back at least $8 million in salary, and probably more, depending how much Bogans is getting paid.  There's no need to worry about trade exemptions, finding someone to take Lee, Bass, Humphries, etc.  If the Celtics wanted Lopez for the price New Orleans was asking,  he could be a Celtic.

That's true.

Question is: do you want to cash in that chip for Robin Lopez?
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Re: Idea: Robin Lopez to Boston
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2013, 09:56:58 PM »

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Quote from: saltlover on July 01, 2013, 09:53:37 PM
As I say in almost every thread in which I post lately, the Celtics can take on more salary than they are in the Nets trade, so all a third team that wants to salary dump needs to do is hop on (assuming the Celtics want to take on the salary).  They're allowed to take back at least $8 million in salary, and probably more, depending how much Bogans is getting paid.  There's no need to worry about trade exemptions, finding someone to take Lee, Bass, Humphries, etc.  If the Celtics wanted Lopez for the price New Orleans was asking,  he could be a Celtic.

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Re: Idea: Robin Lopez to Boston
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2013, 09:58:12 PM »

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Quote from: Lucky17 on July 01, 2013, 09:41:32 PM
Does it change anyone's mind if Lopez has a 15% trade kicker?

Meh not really. This team needs somebody who can start at the five.

Closest thing we have to a legit 5 is Fab Melo.
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Re: Idea: Robin Lopez to Boston
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2013, 10:01:19 PM »

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Quote from: BleedGreen1989 on July 01, 2013, 09:58:12 PM
Quote from: Lucky17 on July 01, 2013, 09:41:32 PM
Does it change anyone's mind if Lopez has a 15% trade kicker?

Meh not really. This team needs somebody who can start at the five.

Closest thing we have to a legit 5 is Fab Melo.

Doesn't matter one bit.  Trade kickers are paid by the team trading the player away.  Doesn't cost the Celtics anything.
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Re: Idea: Robin Lopez to Boston
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2013, 10:07:15 PM »

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Quote from: saltlover on July 01, 2013, 10:01:19 PM
Quote from: BleedGreen1989 on July 01, 2013, 09:58:12 PM
Quote from: Lucky17 on July 01, 2013, 09:41:32 PM
Does it change anyone's mind if Lopez has a 15% trade kicker?

Meh not really. This team needs somebody who can start at the five.

Closest thing we have to a legit 5 is Fab Melo.

Doesn't matter one bit.  Trade kickers are paid by the team trading the player away.  Doesn't cost the Celtics anything.

Both years remaining, or just the current year?
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Re: Idea: Robin Lopez to Boston
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2013, 10:11:11 PM »

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Quote from: BleedGreen1989 on July 01, 2013, 09:58:12 PM
Quote from: Lucky17 on July 01, 2013, 09:41:32 PM
Does it change anyone's mind if Lopez has a 15% trade kicker?

Meh not really. This team needs somebody who can start at the five.

Closest thing we have to a legit 5 is Fab Melo.

I like it.

Just read on Yahoo that HOU is advertising Asik and Lin, looking for someone to go with Harden/Howard...  And I might want them, too.

Lopez/Asik rotation at center?

Rondo/Lin rotation at PG?

Does that look good, and does Danny have the pieces to get in on this without giving up the 2014 or Nets picks, Rondo, Green, or Bradley?
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