Doc compensation agreement states Celtics/Clippers can't exchange players

[LooseCannon]

it not an easy argument, but what the use of having a no trade clause or even playing under the cba, if the league starts adding their own conditions when ever they like, it's not like the players agreed that should a coach be released from one team to another that they will no trade between those teams for a year, this is something stern made up on the fly with any representation from the players or the coaches

I just don't believe that this is an arbitrary decision that Stern made up on the fly, but one he would have made no matter which teams and players were involved.

[Celtics4ever]

Stern decision making Process

Does it Screw Celtics >>>>>>>>>>> YES, Proceed

Will it help Celtics>>>>>>>>>>>NO, see line 1.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Stern decision making Process

Does it Screw Celtics >>>>>>>>>>> YES, Proceed

Will it help Celtics>>>>>>>>>>>NO, see line 1.

As far as I'm concerned, Stern did the Celtics a solid here.

[saltlover]

The nbapa must be very weak to allow this type of collusion, it nullifies part of kg no trade clause, no way the mlbpa would put up with this crap, no wonder the owners are eager for another lockout

My fiancee is an attorney with a lot of experience in labor/employment law.  While she qualified her answer saying that she obviously hasn't looked at the CBA or KG's contract, she said that the player's association wouldn't have a strong argument, since a no-trade clause is a contractual right to refuse a trade, and not a right to be traded.  Accordingly his contract has not been weakened or violated, and nor, presumably, has the player's association.  If, for instance, he had a right in his contract to request a trade to the Clippers, and the Celtics had an obligation to at least negotiate in good faith, then there would be obvious grounds for the player's association to object, but not with merely a no-trade clause.

it not an easy argument, but what the use of having a no trade clause or even playing under the cba, if the league starts adding their own conditions when ever they like, it's not like the players agreed that should a coach be released from one team to another that they will no trade between those teams for a year, this is something stern made up on the fly with any representation from the players or the coaches

The point of having a no-trade clause is to not be traded from the team you signed a contract.  By saying he can't be traded to the Clippers, how does that hurt his no-trade clause?  Sure, sometimes they get used for leverage, because the player wants out but doesn't want to go to a random destination, but that's not what the clause explicitly allows for.

If KG really wanted to go to the Clippers, he could probably make a bit of a stink about it, but even that's questionable, since I believe NBA players and agents are forbidden in the CBA for explicitly demanding to be traded.  He could make the NBA look foolish by invoking his no-trade clause to every other team, but that's about it.

[D.o.s.]

On the plus side, they're supposedly guaranteed to get Paul back but I'm confused why he's supposedly so enamored with Doc.  I thought he wanted to get both KG and Doc.  Maybe he does and will have reservations but not enough to go back on his word.

I don't think it is wildly implausible that Chris Paul thinks Doc is the best or second-best coach in the league and values that immensely, having had to live through Vinny Del Negro as a coach.

Right. Doc has his faults, for sure, but he's a great at two coaching tasks that VDN seems to struggle with--a consistent, playoff ready rotation and crafting plays out of the timeout.

Plus, as we've seen, he gives the point guard a lot of freedom while still commanding the respect necessary to take the reigns when necessary. That's great news, if you're Chris Paul.