Could Deandre Jordan average a double double with the c's?

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Sure he can.  Stats mean nothing.

The better question is, can DeAndre Jordan help this team win, and is his contract a smart allocation of dollars on a restrictive salary cap?

On those questions, I'm skeptical.

If he averages a double-double he can. The one who controls the rebound controls the game, and I believe on 32 minutes a game he'll get you plenty enough rebounds to get more possessions. He'll also probably give you a few fast break points. That, along with maybe a couple of blocks here and there is solid contribution.

He's not a stiff. He can produce. I just hate the fact that he's the only one we are getting for an old yet very productive player and a top 5 coach.

[CelticG1]

Jordan played 24 mpg last year with Ryan Hollins and Ronny Turiaf as the other centers on the roster


#yikes

[aporel#18]

The right question would be: Could DeAndre Jordan look good in green and increase his trade value?

DeAndre has less than 1% chance to be our next Bill Russell next to this age Cousy aka Rajon Rondo. But he can be a great piece to package to get an All Star and be closer to contention.

And yes, we'll be a bad team and Jordan could look like the next star in the NBA.

[CelticG1]

The right question would be: Could DeAndre Jordan look good in green and increase his trade value?

DeAndre has less than 1% chance to be our next Bill Russell next to this age Cousy aka Rajon Rondo. But he can be a great piece to package to get an All Star and be closer to contention.

And yes, we'll be a bad team and Jordan could look like the next star in the NBA.

I think as the years go on and as more advanced stats are being used, more scouts more videos everything- it won't be as easy to "trick" opposing gms.

Can you think of some examples of big stiffs getting something in return anyway?

[mmmmm]

I changed my mind on deandre jordan. at first i was completely against the idea, but danny is going for the modern NBA playstyle, which requires athletic and QUICK centers (and all positions).... the slow bulky post playing center is quickly becoming extinct. with deandre jordan, we'd have one of the most athletic centers there is. You fight strength with speed. Rondo bradley Green and jordan are QUICK.

Nothing quick if the other team just uses it's fouls up on Jordan, sending him to the line to brick FT attempts.

[mmmmm]

I think he will absolutely average a double double, because they are going to throw him out there for as many minutes as he can handle.

A lot of people think he is overpaid, If he gets 10/10 with 2 blocks is he worth 10 Million? How about 14/10/2?

id bro

dude avgs 8/7 in 24 minutes NEXT TO BLAKE GRIFFIN
you put him out there, making him the highlight of the front court and you think 15/10 is hard? with Rondo?

if we keep him, i'd def be eager to see what they do

I remember in a thread I said a core of Rondo/Jeff/AB/Sully could win a title with a good center...15/10 is good. dude can get 15 off just positioning himself right for offensive rebounds

idk
i think we should just do it.
ugh

DeAndre is almost certainly not the center that would push Rondo/Jeff/Bradley and Sully to a title.

As long as he was on the court with Rondo, it would be Hack-A-Celtic. All Day. E'ry Day. Forever.

Now, since someone mentioned Josh Smith, I'd say that a Green/Smith/DeAndre frontcourt with Rondo handling the ball would be a whole lot of fun to watch. Until they got fouled. And missed the free throw(s).

I've asked this once before but isn't a little over 1 point per possession a good number?

Sure - you like to be as much over that as possible, but 1 ppp is not terrible.

But when a player shoots 40% from the line, you are holding them to .8 points per possession by just giving a hard foul.  Scoring only .8 points per possession is beyond terrible.  It sucks.

[birdwatcher]

8.8 points, 7.2 rebounds and 1.4 blocks in 24 minutes per game last season.. Assuming he could stay out of foul trouble in Boston, he could potentially average a double-double and over two blocks with an increase in minutes closer to 36 or so per game.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/could-deandre-jordan-rise-stardom-boston-celtics-165700623.html

I've also read that the reason he can't stay on the floor isn't just because of his fouls, it's also cause he is a crappy FT shooter...

[mmmmm]

He can.

Regardless of him making his free throws or not, he can grab 10-12 boards and score around 12 points a game if he's playing at least 32 minutes, which he should if he plays for us.

A little off topic but somewhat related. Im pretty sure that his bad FT% prompted some "coaching" to fix his shots.

To me DeAndre should just screw mechanics and shoot it like how he does before other people tweaked his shots. That video was posted, when I looked at it, to me he looks like he's trying hard to put an arc to the shot instead of just focusing and trying to put the ball in the hole. I think he'll improve he just completely scrap everything and just shoots comfortably, no matter how flat or how off the form is. Just like Duncan's and Bogut's FT's. They're not good shooters but certainly more reliable than DeAndre is at the line, and they never changed. Their FT's are still flat, yet it finds the hole. DeAndre should do the same. If he shoots 50% (make one, miss one), that's good enough.

But Deandre has ALWAYS sucked at free throws -even in college.  He is a 40% FT shooter with _no_ signs that he'll ever improve.

I don't hink you can blame his coaching.  He just plain is bad at it.  Historically bad.

[LooseCannon]

What did dalembert or a similar terrible player end up netting in a trade? Just curious what type of package we could get if we faked a team into think that Jordan is a decent player/prospect/not a bust?

The last time Dalembert was traded, it was with the 14th pick in the 2012 draft, a future second, and cash for the 12th pick, Jon Brockman, Jon Leuer, and Shaun Livingston.

The similar Javale McGee was traded by the Wizards with Ronny Turiaf in a three-way deal that brough back Nene, Brian Cook, and a second-round pick.

I would consider trading him in a package for an over-30 veteran big man.  I wonder if the Lakers would be interested in Pau Gasol and either Steve Blake or Chris Duhon for Jordan, Bass, and draft considerations.  That would make Jordan an overpaid third big, but Bass might be a decent fit for D'Antoni ball and they could use a late first as a way to fill out their bench cheaply.

[Fafnir]

What did dalembert or a similar terrible player end up netting in a trade? Just curious what type of package we could get if we faked a team into think that Jordan is a decent player/prospect/not a bust?

The last time Dalembert was traded, it was with the 14th pick in the 2012 draft, a future second, and cash for the 12th pick, Jon Brockman, Jon Leuer, and Shaun Livingston.

The similar Javale McGee was traded by the Wizards with Ronny Turiaf in a three-way deal that brough back Nene, Brian Cook, and a second-round pick.

I would consider trading him in a package for an over-30 veteran big man.  I wonder if the Lakers would be interested in Pau Gasol and either Steve Blake or Chris Duhon for Jordan, Bass, and draft considerations.  That would make Jordan an overpaid third big, but Bass might be a decent fit for D'Antoni ball and they could use a late first as a way to fill out their bench cheaply.

Lakers aren't tying up their cap beyond the current core.

[kozlodoev]

Jordan played 24 mpg last year with Ryan Hollins and Ronny Turiaf as the other centers on the roster


#yikes

Yeah, there was also this dude named Blake Griffin taking part in the big man rotation, but that's a detail.

[celticinorlando]

next season is going to be painful to watch. Jordan bricking Fts, getting outworked, an awesome offensive arsenal of put backs and dunks....barf

[mmmmm]

Jordan played 24 mpg last year with Ryan Hollins and Ronny Turiaf as the other centers on the roster


#yikes

That's because Jordan cannot play in the 4th quarter of close games.

He'll never be a 30+ mpg player.

[celticinorlando]

Jordan played 24 mpg last year with Ryan Hollins and Ronny Turiaf as the other centers on the roster


#yikes

Yeah, there was also this dude named Blake Griffin taking part in the big man rotation, but that's a detail.

more to do with he can't make FTs and provides almost zero help on offense. Just look at his numbers in the playoffs...ghost like swayze

[Roy H.]

Jordan played 24 mpg last year with Ryan Hollins and Ronny Turiaf as the other centers on the roster


#yikes

Yeah, there was also this dude named Blake Griffin taking part in the big man rotation, but that's a detail.

more to do with he can't make FTs and provides almost zero help on offense. Just look at his numbers in the playoffs...ghost like swayze

I think we just found a new nickname for DeAndre.