It seems Boston has all the leverage

[CelticG1]

Even if LA has all the leverage i dont see how dangling a 10 million dollar "prospect" (oxymoron) who they dont really want now or in the future is supposed to just get this deal done

[bfrombleacher]

TP to Larbrd33.

[LarBrd33]

TP to Larbrd33.

I still feel that we had the leverage in that deal.  If Chris Paul wanted to play for Doc and have KG as a teammate... that puts a lot of pressure on the Clippers to get something done or risk losing Chris Paul for nothing.

Meanwhile, our "worst case scenario" (Doc leaving to be a broadcaster and KG retiring) isn't that big of a deal.  It's arguably our "best case scenario" depending on what the bigger picture plan is.  We aren't desperate to land DeAndre and a crappy 1st.

[greenpride32]

LAC might have more to lose, but I think the guarantee that CP3 will sign if Doc goes to the Clips is way overblown.  He's going to do what's best for him, and in the world of the NBA where coaching tenures are getting shorter and shorter, I'm sure the head coach while important is not one of his primary decision factors.

If the trade goes through we immediately get our assets; LAC does not get CP3 guaranteed.  And to further complicate the scenario both Doc and KG might not want to go to LAC if CP3 is not there.

[saltlover]

LAC might have more to lose, but I think the guarantee that CP3 will sign if Doc goes to the Clips is way overblown.  He's going to do what's best for him, and in the world of the NBA where coaching tenures are getting shorter and shorter, I'm sure the head coach while important is not one of his primary decision factors.

If the trade goes through we immediately get our assets; LAC does not get CP3 guaranteed.  And to further complicate the scenario both Doc and KG might not want to go to LAC if CP3 is not there.

Head coaches do matter to players, however.  No one wants to have a boss they don't like, no matter how much they make.  Furthermore, this deal would have been a signal to Paul that the Clippers old days of being unwilling to put together a winning team has passed.  Instead, he has a signal that those days are as strong as ever.  I bet Paul ends up in Dallas.

[Celtics4ever]

It's dead in the water right now.  Stern must not like the Clippers, we know he hates the C's.   

[SHAQATTACK]

LAC might have more to lose, but I think the guarantee that CP3 will sign if Doc goes to the Clips is way overblown.  He's going to do what's best for him, and in the world of the NBA where coaching tenures are getting shorter and shorter, I'm sure the head coach while important is not one of his primary decision factors.

If the trade goes through we immediately get our assets; LAC does not get CP3 guaranteed.  And to further complicate the scenario both Doc and KG might not want to go to LAC if CP3 is not there.

agree his may be the case,  Doc and kG are doing this to win a title now, if CP3 doesn't sign,  I don't see them signing up to what was shown to be a poor team overall when CP3 didn't play or was hurt.

Doc and KG are looking for that express  ticket to a title like Ray Allen. 

CP3 and DH will be the next super team out west ,   where ever they finally team up.

[chambers]

we have as much leverage as we can get.
Danny's pulled out of the deal for now to send a statement to the Clippers that he won't be screwed around anymore.

The 'sources' are saying it's dead in the water but until the Clippers hire a new coach that isn't named Doc River I don't believe it.


KG+Doc will be Clippers. Probably Doc first and then KG but there's no way Clippers lose this deal over a first round pick.

Might even be pulling out of it to make it look nice for Stern and the NBA office.

You don't give up deals like this so easily.
I'd say Doc is a Clipper by draft night or before summer league.

[Casperian]

Please, no more leverage talk, it´s getting ridiculous.

[bfrombleacher]

Please, no more leverage talk, it´s getting ridiculous.

Sorry to disappoint.










But I agree with this thread an extreme amount. More so now than ever. Yet another TP for LarBrd33. Despite wanting to keep the ship running and letting KG and the Truth retire in green, this lets them have a true final hurrah. Perhaps I'm going to start agreeing with LarBrd33 more from now on (maybe after they trade Rondo, if they so decide to).

On our end? A 2014 1st is extremely valuable no matter where it may end up from what I've read.

DeAndre Jordan's destructive contract just doesn't compare.

Well done, Ainge. A slap in the face for the Clips.

Remind me not to play poker with him, even if it's a casual game, because I might be losing my house before I even realize it.

[LarBrd33]

Lol yeah how about some respect for Danny Ainge.  Some people seemed to think the Clippers had us bent over a desk and we were going to accept DeAndre Jordan's terrible contract and a protected 1st rounder for Doc Rivers, Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce (where we'd be stuck paying 5 mil of Paul's contract after buying him out).

Instead... Danny Ainge, a master GM, gets an UNPROTECTED 2015 1st rounder for his coach... then proceeds to get three more 1st rounders for KG and Pierce from the Nets + Wallace's garbage contract (which was a wash with DeAndre's garbage contract).


Fair to say Danny Ainge played his card's right here.  He didn't bend over.  He got the best compensation ever for a coach and traded two guys with a foot in retirement for 3 future 1st rounders ... including one in the HUGE 2014 draft.   Dude is a cold-hearted beast.  I'm going to put a Danny Ainge poster on my wall.