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Tony Parker Biggest Draft Mistake in Celts History.
« on: June 07, 2013, 01:12:25 AM »

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 Not One not two but three chances to draft this guy and instead Joe Jhonson, Joe Forte, and the legend Kedrick Brown. And a lot of people were talking about us drafting him and we needed a point back then. Imagine how things could have been with just Parker and Johnson.
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2013, 01:14:49 AM »

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the great red auerbach made a mistake. he brought us 16 rings though, so you cant blame him for anything.
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2013, 01:44:19 AM »

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we probably would have traded him anyway, didn't we trade Billups?
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2013, 01:54:04 AM »

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Hold your horses. I have no problem drafting Joe Johnson. Remember, he have a successful career making a 6 all-star appearance and 1 2nd time all-nba team.

He probably wouldn't pan out as a 1st option but he could have been a solid complimentary star on a championship contending team.

The problem is Joe didn't stay long on this team. If the C's only developed him instead of trading for Rodney Rogers. Same could be said to Billups.
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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2013, 02:00:22 AM »

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It's a chicken or the egg Situation with the Spurs and their players.

Clearly one of, if not the, best run organization(s) from the top down in the NBA.

Aside from Tim Duncan, I can't say any of their prospects have been "can't miss" on draft night. Leonard is a great example--he dropped to 15 because he couldn't shoot.

So the Spurs taught him to shoot. And now he's an incredible bargain for them, and an essential piece to their championship run.

Danny Green... almost out of the league. Bounced around a few teams. Ended up on the Spurs, and boom, he's also an essential piece to their championship run.

That's the thing about San Antionio--they've consistently show the ability as a franchise to draft good players, and turn them into very good/great ones.
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Re: Tony Parker Biggest Draft Mistake in Celts History.
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2013, 02:37:01 AM »

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Quote from: D.o.s. on June 07, 2013, 02:00:22 AM
It's a chicken or the egg Situation with the Spurs and their players.

Clearly one of, if not the, best run organization(s) from the top down in the NBA.

Aside from Tim Duncan, I can't say any of their prospects have been "can't miss" on draft night. Leonard is a great example--he dropped to 15 because he couldn't shoot.

So the Spurs taught him to shoot. And now he's an incredible bargain for them, and an essential piece to their championship run.

Danny Green... almost out of the league. Bounced around a few teams. Ended up on the Spurs, and boom, he's also an essential piece to their championship run.

That's the thing about San Antionio--they've consistently show the ability as a franchise to draft good players, and turn them into very good/great ones.
well, leonard was traded to the spurs by larry bird for hill... it wasnt just about leonard falling in the draft.
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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2013, 02:39:20 AM »

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From that draft, you could have a non-lottery team of Tony Parker, Gilbert Arenas, Gerald Wallace, Zach Randolph, and Samuel Dalembert.
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Re: Tony Parker Biggest Draft Mistake in Celts History.
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2013, 02:51:57 AM »

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Quote from: D.o.s. on June 07, 2013, 02:00:22 AM
It's a chicken or the egg Situation with the Spurs and their players.

Clearly one of, if not the, best run organization(s) from the top down in the NBA.

Aside from Tim Duncan, I can't say any of their prospects have been "can't miss" on draft night. Leonard is a great example--he dropped to 15 because he couldn't shoot.

So the Spurs taught him to shoot. And now he's an incredible bargain for them, and an essential piece to their championship run.

Danny Green... almost out of the league. Bounced around a few teams. Ended up on the Spurs, and boom, he's also an essential piece to their championship run.

That's the thing about San Antionio--they've consistently show the ability as a franchise to draft good players, and turn them into very good/great ones.

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All the players that go to San Antonio improve their skills and become better.
I don't think Parker would have been that great with another team. The way Pop break players' ego and push them to the limit (ask parker how tough his first 3 years were).
I think Parker wouldn't be as good as Rondo if he was a celtics. Same goes for Danny Green. Kawai would have been a great defender in boston but I'm not sure he would have been that great at the 3 ball.
Let's be honest, San antonio knows better how to make the best out of each player.
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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2013, 03:07:57 AM »

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Stealing Rondo @ 21 in the '06 draft more than makes up for this IMO.


Quote from: LooseCannon on June 07, 2013, 02:39:20 AM
From that draft, you could have a non-lottery team of Tony Parker, Gilbert Arenas, Gerald Wallace, Zach Randolph, and Samuel Dalembert.

Don't forget the legend that is Scalabrine...I guess he could be the 6th man off the bench.
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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2013, 03:14:28 AM »

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Quote from: ejk3489 on June 07, 2013, 03:07:57 AM
Stealing Rondo @ 21 in the '06 draft more than makes up for this IMO.


Quote from: LooseCannon on June 07, 2013, 02:39:20 AM
From that draft, you could have a non-lottery team of Tony Parker, Gilbert Arenas, Gerald Wallace, Zach Randolph, and Samuel Dalembert.

Don't forget the legend that is Scalabrine...I guess he could be the 6th man off the bench.
Agreed. Rondo I think makes up for it. Plus, he could outduel any of these top points in the playoffs. Nevertheless, Parker has absolutely proved his worth around the league this year.
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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2013, 03:22:11 AM »

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Quote from: lightspeed5 on June 07, 2013, 02:37:01 AM
Quote from: D.o.s. on June 07, 2013, 02:00:22 AM
It's a chicken or the egg Situation with the Spurs and their players.

Clearly one of, if not the, best run organization(s) from the top down in the NBA.

Aside from Tim Duncan, I can't say any of their prospects have been "can't miss" on draft night. Leonard is a great example--he dropped to 15 because he couldn't shoot.

So the Spurs taught him to shoot. And now he's an incredible bargain for them, and an essential piece to their championship run.

Danny Green... almost out of the league. Bounced around a few teams. Ended up on the Spurs, and boom, he's also an essential piece to their championship run.

That's the thing about San Antionio--they've consistently show the ability as a franchise to draft good players, and turn them into very good/great ones.
well, leonard was traded to the spurs by larry bird for hill... it wasnt just about leonard falling in the draft.

He fell to the pacers who were more or less always going to trade him to the Spurs. The same way we drafted MarShawn for the Nets.

The deal was in place before the draft:
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9316310/analyzing-kawhi-leonard-george-hill-trade-2013-conference-finals
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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2013, 07:39:36 AM »

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It wasn't a mistake not drafting Parker at 10 or 11; nobody had him going nearly that high.

The Joe Forte was a pretty bad pick, though.  Just about every mock draft had the Celtics taking Parker or Jamaal Tinsley, and we ended up with Forte.

Utilizing the 11th pick at all that year was a bad mistake, as we had the option of rolling the pick over to the next draft (when we could have had Carmelo).  Instead, the team fell in love with Kedrick Brown.  Even if the Celtics had gone with conventional wisdom they would have ended up with Troy Murphy, which wouldn't have been so bad.
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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2013, 07:46:38 AM »

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As for worst oversight in Celtics draft history, there have been many of them.  Marcus Banks over David West, Michael Smith over Tim Hardaway and Shawn Kemp, Jon Barry over Latrell Spreewell, Ron Mercer over Tracy McGrady, etc., etc.

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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2013, 08:19:45 AM »

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Quote from: lightspeed5 on June 07, 2013, 02:37:01 AM
Quote from: D.o.s. on June 07, 2013, 02:00:22 AM
It's a chicken or the egg Situation with the Spurs and their players.

Clearly one of, if not the, best run organization(s) from the top down in the NBA.

Aside from Tim Duncan, I can't say any of their prospects have been "can't miss" on draft night. Leonard is a great example--he dropped to 15 because he couldn't shoot.

So the Spurs taught him to shoot. And now he's an incredible bargain for them, and an essential piece to their championship run.

Danny Green... almost out of the league. Bounced around a few teams. Ended up on the Spurs, and boom, he's also an essential piece to their championship run.

That's the thing about San Antionio--they've consistently show the ability as a franchise to draft good players, and turn them into very good/great ones.
well, leonard was traded to the spurs by larry bird for hill... it wasnt just about leonard falling in the draft.
Yes it was.  That was the player the Spurs wanted.  They wouldn't have traded Hill to Indiana unless Leonard was available. 
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Re: Tony Parker Biggest Draft Mistake in Celts History.
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2013, 08:22:04 AM »

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Quote from: Roy H. on June 07, 2013, 07:39:36 AM
It wasn't a mistake not drafting Parker at 10 or 11; nobody had him going nearly that high.

The Joe Forte was a pretty bad pick, though.  Just about every mock draft had the Celtics taking Parker or Jamaal Tinsley, and we ended up with Forte.

Utilizing the 11th pick at all that year was a bad mistake, as we had the option of rolling the pick over to the next draft (when we could have had Carmelo).  Instead, the team fell in love with Kedrick Brown.  Even if the Celtics had gone with conventional wisdom they would have ended up with Troy Murphy, which wouldn't have been so bad.
The next draft wasn't the Carmelo draft.  The next draft was the draft Denver used their 5th pick on Tskitishvili.  Amare went 9th that draft.  That said we could have rolled it over again into the Carmelo draft, but Denver with both 11 and whatever the Amare year pick was might not have been in position to draft Carmelo in that draft.
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