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Re: Pacers’ Hibbert Plans to Speak Up
« Reply #45 on: May 23, 2013, 10:38:49 PM »

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All alone, (LeBron) James pushed past Paul George for the winning basket. All alone, James lay the ball off the backboard and into the net. Twice in the final 10.8 seconds of a 103-102 overtime loss, Vogel yanked center Roy Hibbert out of the game. Twice, James beat the Pacers on drives to the rim for layups. Twice, the NBA’s Most Valuable Player found no resistance awaiting him the rim.

“I’ve grown as a player, this is my fifth year and maybe I need to start talking up more,” Hibbert told Yahoo! Sports in the losing locker room. “They pay me [max-contract money] for a reason.

“I didn’t say anything, and I wish I did. From now on, I need to speak up.”

via Adrian Wojnarowski of YAHOO! Sports

Wish he spoke up after the first time they got burned ...

I love it when NBA players decide to buckle down in the playoffs and ... talk.

Second-guessing the coach publicly during the ECF?

Wow.  This is what happens when talent exceeds experience/maturity.

I think he's talking about before that final play. The coach took him out - and he's saying from now on, if they're in that kind of situation, he'll demand to go in.

I mean, he's one of their best defensive players. Top 2. He should be out there.

Hibbert isn't speaking up because he's arrogant/wants to play; he's speaking up because he believes (along with everyone else) that he should've been in the game.
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Re: Pacers’ Hibbert Plans to Speak Up
« Reply #46 on: May 23, 2013, 10:47:44 PM »

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All alone, (LeBron) James pushed past Paul George for the winning basket. All alone, James lay the ball off the backboard and into the net. Twice in the final 10.8 seconds of a 103-102 overtime loss, Vogel yanked center Roy Hibbert out of the game. Twice, James beat the Pacers on drives to the rim for layups. Twice, the NBA’s Most Valuable Player found no resistance awaiting him the rim.

“I’ve grown as a player, this is my fifth year and maybe I need to start talking up more,” Hibbert told Yahoo! Sports in the losing locker room. “They pay me [max-contract money] for a reason.

“I didn’t say anything, and I wish I did. From now on, I need to speak up.”

via Adrian Wojnarowski of YAHOO! Sports

Wish he spoke up after the first time they got burned ...

I love it when NBA players decide to buckle down in the playoffs and ... talk.

Second-guessing the coach publicly during the ECF?

Wow.  This is what happens when talent exceeds experience/maturity.

I think he's talking about before that final play. The coach took him out - and he's saying from now on, if they're in that kind of situation, he'll demand to go in.

I mean, he's one of their best defensive players. Top 2. He should be out there.

Hibbert isn't speaking up because he's arrogant/wants to play; he's speaking up because he believes (along with everyone else) that he should've been in the game.

Pretty much every player thinks they should be in the game, cocky SOB's.

Not every player says aloud, to the media, that their future plans include trying to override the coach in the huddle.  You know, since they've been in the league 5 years and are playing in the ECF for the first time, he can do both his own job and the coach's as well.  After the fact, anyway.

Talking to the media about coaching decisions is not a good idea, ever, period.

Re: Pacers’ Hibbert Plans to Speak Up
« Reply #47 on: May 23, 2013, 10:55:46 PM »

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All alone, (LeBron) James pushed past Paul George for the winning basket. All alone, James lay the ball off the backboard and into the net. Twice in the final 10.8 seconds of a 103-102 overtime loss, Vogel yanked center Roy Hibbert out of the game. Twice, James beat the Pacers on drives to the rim for layups. Twice, the NBA’s Most Valuable Player found no resistance awaiting him the rim.

“I’ve grown as a player, this is my fifth year and maybe I need to start talking up more,” Hibbert told Yahoo! Sports in the losing locker room. “They pay me [max-contract money] for a reason.

“I didn’t say anything, and I wish I did. From now on, I need to speak up.”

via Adrian Wojnarowski of YAHOO! Sports

Wish he spoke up after the first time they got burned ...

I love it when NBA players decide to buckle down in the playoffs and ... talk.

Second-guessing the coach publicly during the ECF?

Wow.  This is what happens when talent exceeds experience/maturity.

I think he's talking about before that final play. The coach took him out - and he's saying from now on, if they're in that kind of situation, he'll demand to go in.

I mean, he's one of their best defensive players. Top 2. He should be out there.

Hibbert isn't speaking up because he's arrogant/wants to play; he's speaking up because he believes (along with everyone else) that he should've been in the game.
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It was hilarious when they got burned the first time I thought he was in the game, then saw him shaking his head on the bench and blinking like crazy after that LeBron layup drill. I was like why isn't he in the game this is how you guys squashed the Knicks the series before and shut down Melo with him down low discouraging guys from driving?? Then it happens again George is mainly to blame but Hibbert should have been on the floor period.
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Re: Pacers’ Hibbert Plans to Speak Up
« Reply #48 on: May 23, 2013, 10:59:43 PM »

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Pretty much every player thinks they should be in the game, cocky SOB's.

Except Derrick Rose.
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Re: Pacers’ Hibbert Plans to Speak Up
« Reply #49 on: May 24, 2013, 12:00:19 AM »

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Pretty much every player thinks they should be in the game, cocky SOB's.

Except Derrick Rose.
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Re: Pacers’ Hibbert Plans to Speak Up
« Reply #50 on: May 24, 2013, 12:18:02 AM »

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Pretty much every player thinks they should be in the game, cocky SOB's.

Except Derrick Rose.

Seriously, though, guys like Keyon Dooling, Jason Collins and Scal who are "less talented" and are just thankful they have the opportunity to play in the NBA.

They earn their paychecks by going hard in practice against the rotation and going hard in the limited minutes they have. They stay out of trouble and work hard.

Way better role models than the "superstars" if you ask me.

Re: Pacers’ Hibbert Plans to Speak Up
« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2013, 04:32:01 AM »

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Vogel choose to go small for better 1 on 1 defense. He overestimate his players and didn't think Lebron will have the time to get to the rim.
If George anticipate Lebron's move, everybody would have said the opposite about Vogel.
Still, I think it was a bit risky from Vogel to do that. In 2 seconds Lebron can make a layup or provoke a foul. And you don't spread the floor that way like you're trying to contest a 3. You are up by 1, it's not in miami's interest to shoot the 3.
We can all agree that other coaches wouldn't have made this choice.

Re: Pacers’ Hibbert Plans to Speak Up
« Reply #52 on: May 24, 2013, 09:50:02 AM »

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Not a smart move by Hibbert.  If he wants to "speak up," he should do so privately with his coach.  Calling him out to the media during the Eastern Conference Finals is a terrible idea.  Now is not the time for the Pacers to be playing the blame game.

Their chances of beating the Heat aren't good to begin with.  They get even worse if there is any doubt that everyone is on the same page.

Having said that, I really like Roy Hibbert.  I love his attitude, and see him as being a team first type of guy.  I imagine that he will iron this out with coach Vogel--who is one of my favorite, young coaches--and the team will be ready to go, and compete for each other, in game two.   

The Pacers showed that they can compete with the Miami Heat.  I am really hoping they manage to make this a long series and give themselves a chance to pull the upset.
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Re: Pacers’ Hibbert Plans to Speak Up
« Reply #53 on: May 24, 2013, 10:15:32 AM »

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Not a smart move by Hibbert.  If he wants to "speak up," he should do so privately with his coach.  Calling him out to the media during the Eastern Conference Finals is a terrible idea.  Now is not the time for the Pacers to be playing the blame game.

Their chances of beating the Heat aren't good to begin with.  They get even worse if there is any doubt that everyone is on the same page.

Having said that, I really like Roy Hibbert.  I love his attitude, and see him as being a team first type of guy.  I imagine that he will iron this out with coach Vogel--who is one of my favorite, young coaches--and the team will be ready to go, and compete for each other, in game two.   

The Pacers showed that they can compete with the Miami Heat.  I am really hoping they manage to make this a long series and give themselves a chance to pull the upset.

Agree on Hibbert.  The guy is a winner and he plays his size well.  The contract is large, but I like his game.

Vogel, despite the blunder, is one of my favorite coaches, too.  Like Doc, he motivates his guys by telling them, "You CAN do this, just believe in the system and play together."  I like that method.

Unfortunately, I feel like that was IND's best shot at winning a game in MIA.  I mean, they've got to be demoralized but that loss, right?  A team as inexperienced as they are (in terms of CF experience) is probably rattled right now.

Hopefully, they make a fight of it, and at least rough up MIA.