Woj: Paul Pierce Was Nearly A Maverick At Trade Deadline

[Chief]

Does Ainge hold too much value on mid to late 1st round picks?

[wdleehi]

Does Ainge hold too much value on mid to late 1st round picks?

If he was offering Pierce for Smith, he holds too much value on Smith.

[StartOrien]

Does Ainge hold too much value on mid to late 1st round picks?

Maybe this is me reading too much into something -

But I'm wondering if Danny was on the fence w/ the trade and the Hawks asking for a 1st gave him clarity.

[KCattheStripe]

Does Ainge hold too much value on mid to late 1st round picks?

If he was offering Pierce for Smith, he holds too much value on Smith.

I think SMith is about the top end of the players you could get for Pierce though, but I understand why Danny balked at trading what was going to be a reasonable first round pick.

[StartOrien]

Does Ainge hold too much value on mid to late 1st round picks?

If he was offering Pierce for Smith, he holds too much value on Smith.

I think SMith is about the top end of the players you could get for Pierce though, but I understand why Danny balked at what was going to be a reasonable first round pick.

He might be the top, but you might be better off w/ the flexibility. Add Smith and between him, Rondo and Jeff Green you're at about 40 mil for 3 of the most polarizing players in the league.

[KCattheStripe]

Does Ainge hold too much value on mid to late 1st round picks?

If he was offering Pierce for Smith, he holds too much value on Smith.

I think SMith is about the top end of the players you could get for Pierce though, but I understand why Danny balked at what was going to be a reasonable first round pick.

He might be the top, but you might be better off w/ the flexibility. Add Smith and between him, Rondo and Jeff Green you're at about 40 mil for 3 of the most polarizing players in the league.

Agreed, good return on the player iffy on the contract.

[kozlodoev]

Does Ainge hold too much value on mid to late 1st round picks?

If he was offering Pierce for Smith, he holds too much value on Smith.

I think SMith is about the top end of the players you could get for Pierce though, but I understand why Danny balked at what was going to be a reasonable first round pick.

He might be the top, but you might be better off w/ the flexibility. Add Smith and between him, Rondo and Jeff Green you're at about 40 mil for 3 of the most polarizing players in the league.

Agreed, good return on the player iffy on the contract.

I don't think Smith is some sort of a world beater, but he's clearly going to be better than Pierce over the next 3-5 years, and probably better than anyone else we'd be able to get. Especially if he were willing to agree to something ~$12 million per.

[CFAN38]

Does Ainge hold too much value on mid to late 1st round picks?

If he was offering Pierce for Smith, he holds too much value on Smith.

I think SMith is about the top end of the players you could get for Pierce though, but I understand why Danny balked at what was going to be a reasonable first round pick.

He might be the top, but you might be better off w/ the flexibility. Add Smith and between him, Rondo and Jeff Green you're at about 40 mil for 3 of the most polarizing players in the league.

Agreed, good return on the player iffy on the contract.

I don't think Smith is some sort of a world beater, but he's clearly going to be better than Pierce over the next 3-5 years, and probably better than anyone else we'd be able to get. Especially if he were willing to agree to something ~$12 million per.

The problem is , it has been reported that he views himself as a max contract guy. This isnt happening for him in boston or any other well run franchise.

The combination of Rondo, Green and Smith would have to leave enough $$ to bring in a dynamic scoring 2G to cover up the offensive deficiency. I don't see that happening.

[Monkhouse]

I was hoping Lee would be that dynamic guard. But as it pans out, he's still going to need a year or so to become more suited into his role.

Keeping fingers crossed again that Smith takes a pay cut to join Boston.

[kozlodoev]

The problem is , it has been reported that he views himself as a max contract guy. This isnt happening for him in boston or any other well run franchise.

The combination of Rondo, Green and Smith would have to leave enough $$ to bring in a dynamic scoring 2G to cover up the offensive deficiency. I don't see that happening.

Yeah, I know -- I guess there was hope that he'll take a discount to be in a good team situation with his buddy Rondo? It's not like this is asking him to play for pennies.

That's a moot point right now, I guess.

[snively]

The Mavs would have had an overload at the 3 if they'd acquired Pierce - Carter, Marion and Pierce is a lot of old age at one position too.  Would have been an interesting team.

[AB_Celtic]

The problem is , it has been reported that he views himself as a max contract guy. This isnt happening for him in boston or any other well run franchise.

The combination of Rondo, Green and Smith would have to leave enough $$ to bring in a dynamic scoring 2G to cover up the offensive deficiency. I don't see that happening.

Yeah, I know -- I guess there was hope that he'll take a discount to be in a good team situation with his buddy Rondo? It's not like this is asking him to play for pennies.

That's a moot point right now, I guess.

Do you mean Smith? If so, I don't consider it moot - he could still do it in a different S&T.

And as for the 2G, the only way I see that happening is by getting lucky in the draft.

[CelticG1]

I find it kind of hilarious that of any NBA team Celtics fans would actually want J smith.

The guy gets booed in Atlanta! Imagine him here?

I mean Antoine was ripped apart here for a while, rondo is constantly ripped apart, Pierce was for a while.

At least those guys can take it. Smith doesn't seem like he'd be able to.

Aside from me not wanting to pay him or pay him long term, I think it would jist be a disaster in Boston

I see where you are coming from, but the hope is that with the stability of his best friend from HS (Rondo), a championship winning coach and playoff tested veterans that Smith could remodel his game in a more efficient manner

I guess.

To me Smith isn't that good anyway. If you pay him a bunch of money and he and his "buddy" aren't playing like a 1-2 punch should than man will they be in for it.

Plus I think the two of them are a horrible combination anyway, at least offensively

[guava_wrench]

Smith I think is still about the money more so than ring

I think the Lakers want to trade Pau for Josh,  if Dwight reups,

did I mention I hate the Lakers.....

(1) You can have both money and ring.

(2) If he wanted a ring, why would he come to Boston? We are in decline. We are just like Atlanta - a playoff team that gets to watch the big boys finish off the season from the comfort of their own living rooms.

[guava_wrench]

How much is a max contract for someone with Smith's years of service? It is too abstract to talk in terms of 'max' deals. What matters is how much $ he will be paid.