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Would You Trade Bradley to Get Shabazz?
« on: May 09, 2013, 04:58:39 PM »

Offline PhoSita

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I've seen this idea floated a few times on the forum.

Let's say there's some team picking in the 7-10 range that isn't wild about this draft, maybe already has a couple of talented young scoring type, that could really use a young, elite defender.  A team that would be willing to trade down to #16 if they got Avery Bradley in the bargain.

Would you be okay with making that trade if it meant selecting Shabazz Muhammad?  Muhammad seems to fit the profile of the kind of guy Danny Ainge likes in the lottery.  He's athletic, was highly touted coming out of high school, has a knack for scoring, and is falling a bit in the pre-draft process because of he fell a little short of expectations under the high scrutiny of being a top recruit in his first year of college.  Harrison Barnes was a similar guy who Danny reportedly really liked last year.  Muhammad also kind of reminds me a bit of Tyreke Evans, another player Danny supposedly really wanted to trade up for.

Don't get me wrong, I love Bradley, but for a rebuilding team I think the value of a guy who is almost all defense and really raw / extremely dependent on other players in order to be productive offensively is somewhat limited.

On the other hand, it's not easy to find young wings with good size (6'6'') who have the potential to be 15+ ppg scorers.
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Re: Would You Trade Bradley to Get Shabazz?
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2013, 04:59:54 PM »

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no, rondo+bradley have nirvana with each other. its a really good backcourt duo that specializes in defense, and can really lock down anyone other backcourt.
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2013, 05:03:37 PM »

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Give Rondo+Bradley one more chance. We haven't seen 'em enough.
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Re: Would You Trade Bradley to Get Shabazz?
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2013, 05:04:31 PM »

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Don't like Shabazz' measurables for the league at all. One of the bigger overrated college freshmen I've seen in awhile.
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2013, 05:19:41 PM »

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Quote from: CoachBo on May 09, 2013, 05:04:31 PM
Don't like Shabazz' measurables for the league at all. One of the bigger overrated college freshmen I've seen in awhile.

By measurables do you mean 6'5''-6'6'' with 6'11'' wingspan for a shooting guard?

I guess I'm not sure what you mean.

I'm not disputing that he could be overrated.  I posted this because I think it's an interesting idea worth discussion.  I can't say that I'm an expert on Shabazz.
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2013, 05:20:04 PM »

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Not worth giving up arguably next years best defensive back court.
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Re: Would You Trade Bradley to Get Shabazz?
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2013, 05:21:42 PM »

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Even after watching a fair amount of Pac 12 this year, I don't have a good sense for what Shabazz brings. He didn't exactly light the league on fire, after tremendous hype pre-season.

Smells a little like OJ Mayo. Major hype, good player, but not necessarily a budding superstar like the media makes him out to be. Mayo has taken a tumble but still has value. I expect Shabazz will be a good, but not super star player.

So for me, sure, I'd take a flier on Shabazz for Bradley.
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2013, 05:22:55 PM »

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Yes -- but I don't think that offer will find any takers.
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2013, 05:23:35 PM »

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Quote from: Fred Roberts on May 09, 2013, 05:21:42 PM
Even after watching a fair amount of Pac 12 this year, I don't have a good sense for what Shabazz brings. He didn't exactly light the league on fire, after tremendous hype pre-season.

Smells a little like OJ Mayo. Major hype, good player, but not necessarily a budding superstar like the media makes him out to be. Mayo has taken a tumble but still has value. I expect Shabazz will be a good, but not super star player.

So for me, sure, I'd take a flier on Shabazz for Bradley.

The thing about potential drafting candidates is that they may never pan out.

So we just gave up a steal on the draft with one of the best on ball defenders. Who was riddled with not one, but two shoulder injuries. Came off, did pretty bad, but his ceiling is still pretty high.

Imagine if Bradley could upgrade his ball handling, and spot up shooting from the 3?
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Re: Would You Trade Bradley to Get Shabazz?
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2013, 05:24:57 PM »

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What is a Shabazz?  Is that like some nasty rash you get from sleeping in dirty Mexican hotel rooms?

Quote from: Fred Roberts on May 09, 2013, 05:21:42 PM
Smells a little like OJ Mayo.

Orange juice and mayonnaise?  Yuck, that's gross!
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2013, 05:25:56 PM »

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Quote from: KGs Knee on May 09, 2013, 05:24:57 PM
What is a Shabazz?  Is that like some nasty rash you get from sleeping in dirty Mexican hotel rooms?

Quote from: Fred Roberts on May 09, 2013, 05:21:42 PM
Smells a little like OJ Mayo.

Orange juice and mayonnaise?  Yuck, that's gross!

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Re: Would You Trade Bradley to Get Shabazz?
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2013, 05:27:17 PM »

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Quote from: Who on May 09, 2013, 05:22:55 PM
Yes -- but I don't think that offer will find any takers.
pretty much my thoughts as well
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Re: Would You Trade Bradley to Get Shabazz?
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2013, 06:04:15 PM »

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I would strongly consider it. I think best case scenario he could be a Paul Pierce type ironically or worst case a Nick Young. I'm pretty high on the kid but giving up Bradley is a tough decision
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Re: Would You Trade Bradley to Get Shabazz?
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2013, 06:26:31 PM »

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Quote from: Moranis on May 09, 2013, 05:27:17 PM
Quote from: Who on May 09, 2013, 05:22:55 PM
Yes -- but I don't think that offer will find any takers.
pretty much my thoughts as well

I think you're probably right.  The spectrum of reactions to this idea seems pretty wide, though.  So I think this is one that could find a taker if there were a GM who happened to really like Bradley and not like Shabazz / this draft all that much.
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2013, 06:29:42 PM »

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