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Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #60 on: May 04, 2013, 08:32:54 PM »

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Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #61 on: May 04, 2013, 08:34:49 PM »

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My off-season plan is to hope that kg and pierce return but with less offense running through them.  Continue to use kg as the anchor on d, but it is an absolute must that doc get him some big man help.  Someone like Darko is fine but doc has to use them.

One rabbit out of the hat would be to trade some combo of Bradley and parts for big al to solve big man problem.  Hate to give up Bradley, but you gotta give to get.

With rondo coming back from injury, his trade value is low, so I would keep him and see how he plays after the injury and see if he has renewed focus. If Danny can somehow swap rondo and parts for Chris Paul you do it, but this is not likely. So...

...Next, I consider shopping green and parts for a bigger impact player.  This is a risk bc green could ultimately be that guy, but perhaps we go after josh smith for green and parts.   That type of gamble could work and might be good for rondo.

Next, Danny must get some more guys who have a handle and can penetrate.  Does not have to be game changers but please a few more ball handlers.

So if the trades work:
We run with rondo, pierce, smith, kg, big al as our starting lineup.

If not, perhaps we only can get either smith, or big al.  I still take.

If none of the trades go through, you run with rondo, pierce/Bradley, green, kg, and big man to be named and then see where we are mid season.  If things don't look good, then everyone is available at the deadline and you take what gets you the best return for the future for kg, pierce, and even rondo.

I think that is a pretty reasonable a potentially realistic approach.


Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #62 on: May 04, 2013, 09:11:05 PM »

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sign : tony allen,keyon martin,cj watson
Trade : terry,bass,lee,crawford trade KG & pierce (only if the deal is great)
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Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #63 on: May 04, 2013, 09:25:36 PM »

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but we won 41 with the beloved kevin and paul. 3 more than your highest projection. that's ok with you?

I never mentioned KG and PP, but I assumed they retired/were moved.  In which case, absent the ability to acquire two high level players, we need to be really bad next year.  Personally, I think a team featuring a less than fully healthy Rondo and Sully plus Jeff Green will be sufficiently bad.

Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #64 on: May 04, 2013, 09:51:28 PM »

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1. Amnesty Pierce, so that his 15.3 million cap # will reduce our cap from 76 million to 61 million.
2. Garnett will most likely retire once that happens, so his 12.4 million cap # will reduce our cap figure to 48 million.
3. Trade the #16 pick and Avery Bradley to a team in the six through nine range (Sac, Det, Wash, Minny) and select Shabazz Muhammed.
4. Trade Courtney Lee and to the Wolves (they were rumored to be interested in him a few times this year) for Luke Ridnour and Dante Cunningham.  Since we'll be under the cap, we can absorb the 1.1 million difference.
5. Trade Jason Terry to OKC for Nick Collison, Thabeet, and Deandre Liggins.
6. Sign Josh Smith with the 12-14 mill in cap space to a five year - 70 mill deal.
7. Trade Jordan Crawford or offer cash for a pick in the 20's and select Tim Hardaway Jr.
8. Trade Fab Melo for a 2nd-round pick and select Myck Kabongo, Isaiah Canaan, or Nate Wolters

Starters -

C - Jared Sullinger
PF - Josh Smith
SF - Jeff Green
SG - Shabazz Muhammed
PG - Rajon Rondo

Bench (6-10)

C - Nick Collison
PF - Brandon Bass
SF - Terrance Williams
SG - Tim Hardwaway Jr.
PG - Luke Ridnour

Bench (11-15)

C - Hasheem Thabeet
PF - Shav Randolph
PF/SF - Dante Cunningham
SG/SF - DeAndre Liggins
PG - Wolters/Kabongo/Canaan

I like the trade Fab for a second rounder idea. Kabongo is one idea I was going to post.

Let Pierce and KG come off the books.

Draft Giannis.

Sign Gerald Henderson.

Offer Carl Landry 6 mil/per.

FA center.

Rondo(?)T-will/Kabongo
Giannis/Terry
Henderson/Giannis
Green/Landry
Sullinger/Evans

Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #65 on: May 04, 2013, 10:19:42 PM »

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Here is my more realistic option. We amnesty Pierce, KG retires. When the Thunder amnesty Perkins we put in a winning bid. At best we are a seven seed in the east. More likely this is a lottery team in a year that has an bunch of franchise players in it.

Perkins/Rookie 1st/Fab
Sully/Bass/Shav
Green/Cheap free agent
Bradley/Terry/Crawford
Rondo/T-Will
Yikes!  Definitely a realistic possibility, not one that would make a bunch of people happy.

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Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #66 on: May 04, 2013, 10:25:58 PM »

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Hope KG retires (for the sake of the team, not because I want him to)
Amnesty Pierce and or try to trade him and Jason Terry  to bring in a couple of pieces, like a starting 2: JJ Redick, Ben Gordon or Nick Young and a big : Josh Smith, JJ Hickson, or Mareese Speights

Go after a pg that can also score, like Jarret Jack, Randy Foye, or maybe even try and pry away Tyreke Evans from Sacramento. Any of these guys could play the 2 when Rondo comes back, leaving a guy like Redick/Gordon/Young coming in off the bench in Jet's spot.

As much as I am not a hug fan of Smith, I think a team with Rondo, Green and Smith on it would be very exciting. Throw in Bradley and defensively it could be pretty nasty too, especially if you could find a way to bring on Hickson and Smith.

None of this may be feasible financially, but it gets us younger, faster with upgraded offense, and it least I'm not saying, "trade KG and Paul for Howard and Paul", which we will see posted from now until the start of next season.



Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #67 on: May 04, 2013, 10:36:17 PM »

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I think it's going to be very tough to pull off a sign and trade for either Jefferson or Josh Smith without trading Green or Rondo, and I'm not a huge fan of that type of trade.  I really like Sully, and think he can be our starting PF of the future. Maybe a poor man's Kevin Love.  Green has really shown me something the second half of the season, and we know what Rondo can be when healthy.

I know I'm thinking more with heart here, but I want KG and Pierce to return and eventually retire in green.

Everyone else I haven't mentioned is expendable.  2 problem areas I'd like to see Ainge go after is a legit starting shooting guard, and center depth.   Some guys on my list for shooting guards would be JJ Reddick, Tyreke Evans, Eric Gordon, and OJ Mayo.  For center free agents Dalembert really sticks out for me, maybe taking a chance on Greg Oden.

I'd also like Pierce to be our 6th man, and keep his minutes down.  Lets just say we got Reddick.  Our starting lineup would be Rondo, Reddick, Green, Sully, and KG.  Pierce first off the bench, and whatever else we have left over after a sign and trade for Reddick.

I'd do that and see where we are mid season to make other changes.

Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #68 on: May 04, 2013, 11:38:46 PM »

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Get the best center possible ....trade players to do it .......KEEP KG and RONDO if possible .

Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #69 on: May 04, 2013, 11:43:26 PM »

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sign mozgov

trade bass (3 team deal)
gortat to celtics

starting 5
rondo
bradley
pierce/green
kg
gortat

Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #70 on: May 05, 2013, 02:30:11 AM »

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Salary dump of Courtney Lee for a couple of second round picks, preferably not this season.

Bring back Paul Pierce, who teams with KG to convince Elton Brand to sign for the full MLE, which the Celtics can use after clearing Lee off the payroll. 

Sign a veteran point guard who has no problems with getting DNPs by the time the playoffs come around.  Do not use an undersized shooting guard to fill this role.

Bring in a Jason Collins type backup center for the minimum.  Maybe even Collins himself.
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Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #71 on: May 05, 2013, 03:35:15 AM »

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1)I'd send Pierce and our 16th pick to the Mavericks for their lottery pick.
They have Marion and Kaman coming off the books and a thirst for a title while Dirk is there.
If they won't give us the pick and they wait to see what number they end up drafting then give them Avery Bradley or Sully too. If they do end up outside the top 10 like they're projected then we could swap Pierce+our 16th pick for their 10-13th pick and ask them to draft the player we want.
Wipe the books clean, give Pierce a shot at a title and pick up a big man or whatever small forward we can.
I'd even ask KG to go there with Pierce because they could run KG, Pierce and Dirk on a nice run.
There's a number of ways to send Pierce and KG there for smaller money and Cuban ain't shy to go over the cap. We could even ship out Bass and Terry because that would make a great contending line up.

2)Trade Green, Bradley and Sullinger for Decmarcus Cousins.
Not completely impossible because Green is getting better and Bradley + Sully are great pieces for a team that is always gonna be lotto bound for at least 3-5 years.

3)Move Pierce and waive KG (preferably to Dallas), tank for one season while Rondo recovers.
Get the Dallas lottery pick, let Green and Bradley +Sully all increase trade value and lead us to a bottom 4 position.
Top 4 is good enough for me because I want Jabari Parker ahead of Wiggins. I think Wiggins is a second coming of Vince Carter and Parker is more of a complete player like Paul Pierce. Parker is predicted to go 4 at the moment on a lot of mocks and has a complete arsenal of a game to his name. I see him being better than Carmelo Anothony because of his unselfishness and his defensive prowess.

4) After tanking one season, acquiring a lottery pick from Dallas and a lottery pick from our own poor record, we acquire Jabari Parker, meanwhile  having Rondo come back healthy we will hit the 2014-15 free agent class with some young, cheap studs whilst having a full amount of capspace for two max free agents on top of Rondo.
Contend for the last 5 years of Rondo's career.

5) My dream would be to sign both Jabari Parker and JoJo Embid in the same draft from a top 5 pick and a top 10 pick. A superstar SF and an Allstar center.

Rondo
Klay Thomspon free agent
jabari Parker
Free agent PF
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Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #72 on: May 05, 2013, 04:59:30 AM »

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1)I'd send Pierce and our 16th pick to the Mavericks for their lottery pick.
They have Marion and Kaman coming off the books and a thirst for a title while Dirk is there.
If they won't give us the pick and they wait to see what number they end up drafting then give them Avery Bradley or Sully too. If they do end up outside the top 10 like they're projected then we could swap Pierce+our 16th pick for their 10-13th pick and ask them to draft the player we want.
Wipe the books clean, give Pierce a shot at a title and pick up a big man or whatever small forward we can.
I'd even ask KG to go there with Pierce because they could run KG, Pierce and Dirk on a nice run.
There's a number of ways to send Pierce and KG there for smaller money and Cuban ain't shy to go over the cap. We could even ship out Bass and Terry because that would make a great contending line up.

2)Trade Green, Bradley and Sullinger for Decmarcus Cousins.
Not completely impossible because Green is getting better and Bradley + Sully are great pieces for a team that is always gonna be lotto bound for at least 3-5 years.

3)Move Pierce and waive KG (preferably to Dallas), tank for one season while Rondo recovers.
Get the Dallas lottery pick, let Green and Bradley +Sully all increase trade value and lead us to a bottom 4 position.
Top 4 is good enough for me because I want Jabari Parker ahead of Wiggins. I think Wiggins is a second coming of Vince Carter and Parker is more of a complete player like Paul Pierce. Parker is predicted to go 4 at the moment on a lot of mocks and has a complete arsenal of a game to his name. I see him being better than Carmelo Anothony because of his unselfishness and his defensive prowess.

4) After tanking one season, acquiring a lottery pick from Dallas and a lottery pick from our own poor record, we acquire Jabari Parker, meanwhile  having Rondo come back healthy we will hit the 2014-15 free agent class with some young, cheap studs whilst having a full amount of capspace for two max free agents on top of Rondo.
Contend for the last 5 years of Rondo's career.

5) My dream would be to sign both Jabari Parker and JoJo Embid in the same draft from a top 5 pick and a top 10 pick. A superstar SF and an Allstar center.

Rondo
Klay Thomspon free agent
jabari Parker
Free agent PF
JoJO Embid

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Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #73 on: May 05, 2013, 06:39:07 AM »

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If KG and Pierce continue to play:

- Let this core play for another run
- resign Barbosa and Darko/Kristic (If they want to return)
- Keep Shav and Twill
- Trade Crawford
- Draft or Trade for an impact big

If we are on full rebuild:

- Keep Rondo, Sully, Green and Bradley
- Sign big name FA (Jsmoove, Big Al, Milsap,etc.)
- Collect assets and develop them.
- Wait for a big trade (an All-Star or a lotto pick)

Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #74 on: May 05, 2013, 06:48:07 AM »

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get dwight howard,and steph curry,

starting 5

rondo,steph curry,jeff green,sully and howard