Leave your emotion and bring logic. What can the C's really do this summer?

[Who]

Ok Ok I like everyone's ideas (even though some of them are unrealistic) but how come no one is saying O.J. Mayo? I know we have about a million 2 guards but we could maybe do a sign and trade with Dallas for Mayo and Kaman. We get a decent big, and a REAL scorer in Mayo. I'm not saying that should be the only move but it should be a move Danny considers. Who knows, maybe Dallas wants JET back 

OJ Mayo is in the same block as a Nick Young or Marcus Thornton to me.

I think any one of those three could be valuable options if Danny can find a big man some other way in addition to bringing in one of those scorers.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Bass + Terry for McGee

I love the JaVale McGee trade idea. I would happily do that if Denver have any interest.

I'd probably do that trade if Denver was willing, but I just don't see any way we'll get that kind of value for Bass/Terry.

Even though Beidrins is terrible, I'd do a Bass & Terry for Beidrins & Rush trade.  Both are expiring contracts at the end of next season.  That is probably the best we could hope for.

I would do it for Brandon Rush but I wouldn't do it without him in the deal. No interest in Biedrins. He is a worse player than Bass and comparable to Terry's new found low.

Beans can still defend the paint in a decent level though. And this time we dont have to pay him 9 million dollars. Beans certainly didn't live up to that contract, but he's young enough and experienced enough to give us solid contributions on defense and rebounding. He still runs the floor well too.

Now, if only he won't shy away from contact, I think KG's got that covered.

[Who]

Bass + Terry for McGee

I love the JaVale McGee trade idea. I would happily do that if Denver have any interest.

I'd probably do that trade if Denver was willing, but I just don't see any way we'll get that kind of value for Bass/Terry.

Even though Beidrins is terrible, I'd do a Bass & Terry for Beidrins & Rush trade.  Both are expiring contracts at the end of next season.  That is probably the best we could hope for.

I would do it for Brandon Rush but I wouldn't do it without him in the deal. No interest in Biedrins. He is a worse player than Bass and comparable to Terry's new found low.

Beans can still defend the paint in a decent level though. And this time we dont have to pay him 9 million dollars. Beans certainly didn't live up to that contract, but he's young enough and experienced enough to give us solid contributions on defense and rebounding. He still runs the floor well too.

Now, if only he won't shy away from contact, I think KG's got that covered.

Biedrins can't play defense. He is garbage. Zero interest.

[CelticConcourse]

I dream of getting McGee...

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Bass + Terry for McGee

I love the JaVale McGee trade idea. I would happily do that if Denver have any interest.

I'd probably do that trade if Denver was willing, but I just don't see any way we'll get that kind of value for Bass/Terry.

Even though Beidrins is terrible, I'd do a Bass & Terry for Beidrins & Rush trade.  Both are expiring contracts at the end of next season.  That is probably the best we could hope for.

I would do it for Brandon Rush but I wouldn't do it without him in the deal. No interest in Biedrins. He is a worse player than Bass and comparable to Terry's new found low.

Beans can still defend the paint in a decent level though. And this time we dont have to pay him 9 million dollars. Beans certainly didn't live up to that contract, but he's young enough and experienced enough to give us solid contributions on defense and rebounding. He still runs the floor well too.

Now, if only he won't shy away from contact, I think KG's got that covered.

Biedrins can't play defense. He is garbage. Zero interest.

With all due respect Who, but we are probably watching two different Andris Biedrins on limited minutes with the Warriors.

I regularly saw a Beans that challenges shots, battles for rebounds and runs the floor.

[KGs Knee]

Bass + Terry for McGee

I love the JaVale McGee trade idea. I would happily do that if Denver have any interest.

I'd probably do that trade if Denver was willing, but I just don't see any way we'll get that kind of value for Bass/Terry.

Even though Beidrins is terrible, I'd do a Bass & Terry for Beidrins & Rush trade.  Both are expiring contracts at the end of next season.  That is probably the best we could hope for.

I would do it for Brandon Rush but I wouldn't do it without him in the deal. No interest in Biedrins. He is a worse player than Bass and comparable to Terry's new found low.

Beans can still defend the paint in a decent level though. And this time we dont have to pay him 9 million dollars. Beans certainly didn't live up to that contract, but he's young enough and experienced enough to give us solid contributions on defense and rebounding. He still runs the floor well too.

Now, if only he won't shy away from contact, I think KG's got that covered.

Biedrins can't play defense. He is garbage. Zero interest.

My interest in him is solely as an expiring contract for the summer of 2014.  That should be the goal with Bass/Terry.  If we can get a player who can contribute next year, great, but I'm not holding my breath.

I'd also try to get a 1st round pick in the deal.  Beidrins really is trash.

[bobbyv]

The fact is, due to the cap and terrible contracts (Bass, Terry), we won't be able to do much this offseason. Even if we somehow get KG's contract off the books (under retirement rules, we still owe him his money) and Pierce's, we're still at the cap. That means no big name free agents.

[KGs Knee]

The fact is, due to the cap and terrible contracts (Bass, Terry), we won't be able to do much this offseason. Even if we somehow get KG's contract off the books (under retirement rules, we still owe him his money) and Pierce's, we're still at the cap. That means no big name free agents.

Just want to point out the part in bold is not necessarily true.  If KG files official retirement papers, we don't owe him a dime.

Otherwise, you're right, there's very little chance we have any cap space this summer.  Next summer we can.

[LarBrd33]

As far as I can tell, there isn't a heck of a lot they can do.  I'm not trying to be a jerk... it's just the truth.  No miracle trade is going to happen.

Presuming KG retires leaving us with nothing...

We still don't have cap room.

Pierce is too old to have real trade value.

Rondo is a Top-10 PG coming off major surgery and plays a position that 80% of the league has covered fairly well... could we get a lotto pick and expiring contract for him?  Maybe.

Green is still seen as overpaid by some.   Bass, Lee and Terry are all borderline "bad" contracts at this point. 

The pessimists won the debate on Avery Bradley.  He's too small to play SG, very weak offensively... inept at running an offense... essentially nothing more than a defensive role player who might not even be a starter... and most of his defensive success comes from his hyper-aggressive defensive effort... which leaves him useless on the offensive end.  Some day he'll have to ease up on the defense to bring some balance to his game... and then you're left with an undersized guard who can't shoot or pass.  Can't see him fetching much of anything.

Sully was a late 1st rounder and he's coming off surgery.  He's not getting you much.

Fab Melo will probably be out of the league in a couple years.

That pretty much covers it.   

Realistically, I see us getting very little for our assets.  No superstars to be had for what we're offering. And without KG, this team is probably on the verge of the lotto already.  So best plan of action is to probably find some way to dump the bad contracts, get draft picks for whoever can fetch them (Rondo and Green, maybe)... Go "Full-Blown Tank Mode" and hope we luck out in the 2014 draft (Andrew Wiggins) or free up enough cap room to make an ill-fated run at some legit stars.  You build through the draft... pick young guys with potential.  In 5-10 years maybe they pan out and you have a contender.   

It's basically 1995 right now.  We'll hope for the best, but if things went the way they went last time, we're not sniffing contention again for another 12 years.

[bobbyv]

The fact is, due to the cap and terrible contracts (Bass, Terry), we won't be able to do much this offseason. Even if we somehow get KG's contract off the books (under retirement rules, we still owe him his money) and Pierce's, we're still at the cap. That means no big name free agents.

Just want to point out the part in bold is not necessarily true.  If KG files official retirement papers, we don't owe him a dime.

Otherwise, you're right, there's very little chance we have any cap space this summer.  Next summer we can.

What do you mean by "official retirement papers?"

[KGs Knee]

The fact is, due to the cap and terrible contracts (Bass, Terry), we won't be able to do much this offseason. Even if we somehow get KG's contract off the books (under retirement rules, we still owe him his money) and Pierce's, we're still at the cap. That means no big name free agents.

Just want to point out the part in bold is not necessarily true.  If KG files official retirement papers, we don't owe him a dime.

Otherwise, you're right, there's very little chance we have any cap space this summer.  Next summer we can.

What do you mean by "official retirement papers?"

Exactly what I said, "Official Retirement Papers".

A legal document filed with the league office, in which a player voluntarily retires from the league and thus forgoes any future salary owed.

[bobbyv]

The fact is, due to the cap and terrible contracts (Bass, Terry), we won't be able to do much this offseason. Even if we somehow get KG's contract off the books (under retirement rules, we still owe him his money) and Pierce's, we're still at the cap. That means no big name free agents.

Just want to point out the part in bold is not necessarily true.  If KG files official retirement papers, we don't owe him a dime.

Otherwise, you're right, there's very little chance we have any cap space this summer.  Next summer we can.

What do you mean by "official retirement papers?"

Exactly what I said, "Official Retirement Papers".

A legal document filed with the league office, in which a player voluntarily retires from the league and thus forgoes any future salary owed.

You think KG is gonna leave 22m on the table? I wouldn't.

[KGs Knee]

The fact is, due to the cap and terrible contracts (Bass, Terry), we won't be able to do much this offseason. Even if we somehow get KG's contract off the books (under retirement rules, we still owe him his money) and Pierce's, we're still at the cap. That means no big name free agents.

Just want to point out the part in bold is not necessarily true.  If KG files official retirement papers, we don't owe him a dime.

Otherwise, you're right, there's very little chance we have any cap space this summer.  Next summer we can.

What do you mean by "official retirement papers?"

Exactly what I said, "Official Retirement Papers".

A legal document filed with the league office, in which a player voluntarily retires from the league and thus forgoes any future salary owed.

You think KG is gonna leave 22m on the table? I wouldn't.

Never said he would, or wouldn't.  Just stated it is within the realm of possibility.

Who knows, maybe he will.  He's already earned more money in player salary than any other player in the history of the game.

By the way, only next year's salary is guaranteed.  The following season is non-guaranteed.  So, it's not truly $22m.

[bobbyv]

Correct, I think he has 6 mil guaranteed for his last contract year.

[SHAQATTACK]

As far as I can tell, there isn't a heck of a lot they can do.  I'm not trying to be a jerk... it's just the truth.  No miracle trade is going to happen.

Presuming KG retires leaving us with nothing...

We still don't have cap room.

Pierce is too old to have real trade value.

Rondo is coming off major surgery and plays a position that 80% of the league has covered fairly well... could we get a lotto pick and expiring contract for him?  Maybe.

Green is still seen as overpaid by some.   Bass, Lee and Terry are all borderline "bad" contracts at this point. 

The pessimists won the debate on Avery Bradley.  He's too small to play SG, very weak offensively... inept at running an offense... essentially nothing more than a defensive role player who might not even be a starter... and most of his defensive success comes from his hyper-aggressive defensive effort... which leaves him useless on the offensive end.  Some day he'll have to ease up on the defense to bring some balance to his game... and then you're left with an undersized guard who can't shoot or pass.  Can't see him fetching much of anything.

Sully was a late 1st rounder and he's coming off surgery.  He's not getting you much.

Fab Melo will probably be out of the league in a couple years.

That pretty much covers it.   

Realistically, I see us getting very little for our assets.  No superstars to be had for what we're offering. And without KG, this team is probably on the verge of the lotto already.  So best plan of action is to probably find some way to dump the bad contracts, get draft picks for whoever can fetch them (Rondo and Green, maybe)... Go "Full-Blown Tank Mode" and hope we luck out in the 2014 draft (Andrew Wiggins) or free up enough cap room to make an ill-fated run at some legit stars.  You build through the draft... pick young guys with potential.  In 5-10 years maybe they pan out and you have a contender.   

It's basically 1995 right now.  We'll hope for the best, but if things went the way they went last time, we're not sniffing contention again for another 12 years.
 

this is why I say basically, the C's need some  LUCK. ....... without a stroke luck with a draft pick.....or some significant trade that nobody sees coming, ..no coach is going to make a huge diff,  it's gonna lean times again.

Boston can't rebuild,   at a moments notice like LA........we have basically luck out , cause we can't buy our way in like the old days.

without some super sharpe. mgmt decisions and grand strokes of luck, Boston will be stuck with Hawks, 76 ers , Bucks and all the rest of he .500 clubs.


I'm just keeping my fingers crossed......something GOOD will fall the Celtics way.