ESPN Insider article: Bradley and KG should be 1st team All-Defense

[dinome18]

Bradley torments players with his ball pressure. There is nothing else like it right now in the NBA. He will get a lot of votes for that. It is impressive to hear opposing team broadcasts rave about him. I suspect coaches have to do some serious game planning for him, meaning lots of votes.

Ball pressure and shutting down opposing guards are two different things. When attacked on the defensive end by guards Bradley doesn't fare that well.

What does "attacked" mean?  And he doesn't fare that well compared to who?

Were you not impressed by his defense on Russel Westbrook?

No, I wasn't impressed with results against Lawson, Teague, Henderson and Dwill just to name a few. Give him credit for the effort but that's the only thing that separates him from other top guards in the league.

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I can't have a different opinion in the matter without being called a name?

[BballTim]

Bradley torments players with his ball pressure. There is nothing else like it right now in the NBA. He will get a lot of votes for that. It is impressive to hear opposing team broadcasts rave about him. I suspect coaches have to do some serious game planning for him, meaning lots of votes.

Ball pressure and shutting down opposing guards are two different things. When attacked on the defensive end by guards Bradley doesn't fare that well.

What does "attacked" mean?  And he doesn't fare that well compared to who?

Were you not impressed by his defense on Russel Westbrook?

No, I wasn't impressed with results against Lawson, Teague, Henderson and Dwill just to name a few. Give him credit for the effort but that's the only thing that separates him from other top guards in the league.

Trololololol

  For whatever reason his defense hasn't been up to his usual standards lately, at least not when I've been watching him.

 
 

[wayupnorth]

Bradley torments players with his ball pressure. There is nothing else like it right now in the NBA. He will get a lot of votes for that. It is impressive to hear opposing team broadcasts rave about him. I suspect coaches have to do some serious game planning for him, meaning lots of votes.

Ball pressure and shutting down opposing guards are two different things. When attacked on the defensive end by guards Bradley doesn't fare that well.

What does "attacked" mean?  And he doesn't fare that well compared to who?

Were you not impressed by his defense on Russel Westbrook?

No, I wasn't impressed with results against Lawson, Teague, Henderson and Dwill just to name a few. Give him credit for the effort but that's the only thing that separates him from other top guards in the league.

Trololololol

I can't have a different opinion in the matter without being called a name?

Well, with your effort being the only thing that separates AVvery from other top guards in the league comment, I assumed you were trolling. It appears I am wrong about that much.

But seriously? You think most other guards in the NBA could play the defense Avery plays, if only they put in more effort?

I know that John Wall disagrees with you.

I mean really.

[Who]

Bradley torments players with his ball pressure. There is nothing else like it right now in the NBA. He will get a lot of votes for that. It is impressive to hear opposing team broadcasts rave about him. I suspect coaches have to do some serious game planning for him, meaning lots of votes.

Ball pressure and shutting down opposing guards are two different things. When attacked on the defensive end by guards Bradley doesn't fare that well.

What does "attacked" mean?  And he doesn't fare that well compared to who?

Were you not impressed by his defense on Russel Westbrook?

No, I wasn't impressed with results against Lawson, Teague, Henderson and Dwill just to name a few. Give him credit for the effort but that's the only thing that separates him from other top guards in the league.

Trololololol

  For whatever reason his defense hasn't been up to his usual standards lately, at least not when I've been watching him.

 
 

Yeah, I've been thinking the same thing. That his defense has tailed off as of late.

I wonder if he is just unable to sustain that type of effort defensively for a full season while playing big minutes. Find out next year I suppose.

[Fafnir]

Yeah, I've been thinking the same thing. That his defense has tailed off as of late.

I wonder if he is just unable to sustain that type of effort defensively for a full season while playing big minutes. Find out next year I suppose.

And having a bigger offensive role on the ball to boot. He also hasn't played a full season, we'll have to see how he does next season.

[Snakehead]

Bradley torments players with his ball pressure. There is nothing else like it right now in the NBA. He will get a lot of votes for that. It is impressive to hear opposing team broadcasts rave about him. I suspect coaches have to do some serious game planning for him, meaning lots of votes.

Ball pressure and shutting down opposing guards are two different things. When attacked on the defensive end by guards Bradley doesn't fare that well.

What does "attacked" mean?  And he doesn't fare that well compared to who?

Were you not impressed by his defense on Russel Westbrook?

No, I wasn't impressed with results against Lawson, Teague, Henderson and Dwill just to name a few. Give him credit for the effort but that's the only thing that separates him from other top guards in the league.

Trololololol

  For whatever reason his defense hasn't been up to his usual standards lately, at least not when I've been watching him.

 
 

The last few games perhaps.  Against Williams he was hampered by very dubious foul calls.  And he has an injured collar bone and may a shoulder injury as well, heard some grumbling about it.

Regardless, this is an award of comparison.  Bradley is the best perimeter defender in the league, even a bit of drop off for him still puts him on a small list.

But this is a season long award anyways.

[dinome18]

Bradley torments players with his ball pressure. There is nothing else like it right now in the NBA. He will get a lot of votes for that. It is impressive to hear opposing team broadcasts rave about him. I suspect coaches have to do some serious game planning for him, meaning lots of votes.

Ball pressure and shutting down opposing guards are two different things. When attacked on the defensive end by guards Bradley doesn't fare that well.

What does "attacked" mean?  And he doesn't fare that well compared to who?

Were you not impressed by his defense on Russel Westbrook?

No, I wasn't impressed with results against Lawson, Teague, Henderson and Dwill just to name a few. Give him credit for the effort but that's the only thing that separates him from other top guards in the league.

Trololololol

  For whatever reason his defense hasn't been up to his usual standards lately, at least not when I've been watching him.

 
 

The last few games perhaps.  Against Williams he was hampered by very dubious foul calls.  And he has an injured collar bone and may a shoulder injury as well, heard some grumbling about it.

Regardless, this is an award of comparison.  Bradley is the best perimeter defender in the league, even a bit of drop off for him still puts him on a small list.

But this is a season long award anyways.

He's not the best perimeter defender in the league.

[Snakehead]

Bradley torments players with his ball pressure. There is nothing else like it right now in the NBA. He will get a lot of votes for that. It is impressive to hear opposing team broadcasts rave about him. I suspect coaches have to do some serious game planning for him, meaning lots of votes.

Ball pressure and shutting down opposing guards are two different things. When attacked on the defensive end by guards Bradley doesn't fare that well.

What does "attacked" mean?  And he doesn't fare that well compared to who?

Were you not impressed by his defense on Russel Westbrook?

No, I wasn't impressed with results against Lawson, Teague, Henderson and Dwill just to name a few. Give him credit for the effort but that's the only thing that separates him from other top guards in the league.

Trololololol

  For whatever reason his defense hasn't been up to his usual standards lately, at least not when I've been watching him.

 
 

The last few games perhaps.  Against Williams he was hampered by very dubious foul calls.  And he has an injured collar bone and may a shoulder injury as well, heard some grumbling about it.

Regardless, this is an award of comparison.  Bradley is the best perimeter defender in the league, even a bit of drop off for him still puts him on a small list.

But this is a season long award anyways.

He's not the best perimeter defender in the league.

Who is?

[dinome18]

Wade, Sefalosha, Tony Allen, Iggy, Lebron, Shump??

[Snakehead]

Wade, Sefalosha, Tony Allen, Iggy, Lebron, Shump??

When I say "perimeter" we are talking guards.

So you think Shump, Sefalosha, and Wade are better?  I disagree.  Plenty of NBA players say Avery is the best after they play him.

[celtsfan84]

Wade, Sefalosha, Tony Allen, Iggy, Lebron, Shump??

When I say "perimeter" we are talking guards.

So you think Shump, Sefalosha, and Wade are better?  I disagree.  Plenty of NBA players say Avery is the best after they play him.

Plenty of NBA players say Tony Allen is the best after they play him.  He also was listed as the best via the GM survey for "best perimeter defender".  Per the 2012-2013 GM survey -

Who is the best perimeter defender in the NBA?

1. Tony Allen, Memphis -- 33.3%
2. LeBron James, Miami -- 26.7%
3. Avery Bradley, Boston, Andre Iguodala, Denver, Rajon Rondo, Boston, Thabo Sefolosha, Oklahoma City -- 6.7%

Also receiving votes: Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers; Eric Gordon, New Orleans; Dahntay Jones, Dallas; Metta World Peace, L.A. Lakers

Last year: Tony Allen -- 26.9%

Avery might be the best in your opinion.  That doesn't make it indisputable fact.  I'd argue, and there is a legit case to be made, that Tony Allen is the best perimeter defender.  He has also done it for a longer time and with more consistency.  Just one man's opinion.

[nickagneta]

Plenty of NBA players say Avery is the best after they play him.

Coaches as well. The coaches in Orlando and the television commentators were gushing over Avery's perimeter defense and I have seen the same thing from other teams coaches and commentators after they play them during post game press conferences.

Bradley is definitely one of the best if not the best. I think Tony Allen is in the discussion and in a year or so, Victor Olapido will be also.

[fairweatherfan]

Plenty of NBA players say Avery is the best after they play him.

Coaches as well. The coaches in Orlando and the television commentators were gushing over Avery's perimeter defense and I have seen the same thing from other teams coaches and commentators after they play them during post game press conferences.

Bradley is definitely one of the best if not the best. I think Tony Allen is in the discussion and in a year or so, Victor Olapido will be also.

I'm convinced Oladipo is TA 2.0.  Great defense, and on offense he can dunk over a 7 footer one play and trip over his own shoelaces the next.

[dinome18]

Wade, Sefalosha, Tony Allen, Iggy, Lebron, Shump??

When I say "perimeter" we are talking guards.

So you think Shump, Sefalosha, and Wade are better?  I disagree.  Plenty of NBA players say Avery is the best after they play him.

Which NBA players have said Avery is the "best" perimeter defender after they played him.

[BballTim]

Wade, Sefalosha, Tony Allen, Iggy, Lebron, Shump??

  I'd go with TA. In the past I'd put Iggy up there, haven't seen much of him this year though.