Great article from Wojnaroski calling out nba's corrupt principles

[CelticG1]

Im sorry but deandre jordan dunking the ball is not impressive.

Surprised people are bashing woj.

Im one of the people that donr need to see 100 tweets on rip knight and showing rhe dunk and talking about it on every radio show and sports show.

I was actually looking forward to seeing it and was dissapointed when I did. Same with that stupid blake griffin dunk.

Funny thing is that I can probably do these dunks on 7 foot hoop with a tiny bball which is exactly what its like for them.

Good for deandre jordan he was born tall

[ianboyextreme]

Some of yall seem to be missing the point. Hes not condemning Deandre Jordan for dunking, he condemning basketball fans as a whole for ridiculing Brandon Knight for making the absolutely right basketball play as a 6'3" guard protecting the rim against a 7 footer.

Once again, im dissapointed by celticsblog posters.

[ianboyextreme]

Some of yall seem to be missing the point. Hes not condemning Deandre Jordan for dunking, hes condemning basketball fans as a whole for ridiculing Brandon Knight for making the absolutely right basketball play as a 6'3" guard protecting the rim against a 7 footer.

Once again, im dissapointed by celticsblog posters.

[quidinqui33]

I think Zach Lowe on Grantland expresses my thought on the matter perfectly:

"Like the rest of the NBA world, I tweeted something about Jordan's violent lob smash Sunday night. And like the rest of the NBA world, I found my timeline littered with remarks about how sad/stupid/TERRIBLE it was that the world mocks Brandon Knight for actually trying to challenge a dunk. Woe for our declining culture and appreciation of basketball.

Nonsense. It may shock some folks, but people are capable of holding multiple thoughts at once on the same topic — of approaching things with nuance. Jermaine O'Neal in his prime was one of my favorite defenders to watch precisely because he challenged [dang] near every dunk attempt right at the rim. You do that, you're going on a few posters and starring in a few YouTube clips.

It's possible to joke about Knight's misfortune, marvel at Jordan's dunk, and feel sympathy and even admiration for Knight — all at the same time!"

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9042169/al-jefferson-paul-millsap-tyrone-corbin-future-utah-jazz

[ejk3489]

Sorry, I can't take what he has to say seriously when just last month he wrote a whole article praising Kobe's "dunk for the ages" over the Nets.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--kobe-bryant-delivers-dunk-for-the-ages-on-new-york-s-newest-basketball-stage-071908918.html

[soap07]

Jordan is a terrible offensive player outside of alley-oops, and even on defense—his forté—he averages only 7 rebounds and 1.4 blocks, despite his youth, size, and freak athleticism.

DeAndre Jordan has a rebounding rate of more than 17 percent. That is very good. This means he's a very good rebounuder. He's also a good shot blocker. 1.4 blocks in 24 minutes a game is actually decent.

[TBreezy]

I think it is pretty clear that Woj has some type of dislike for either Jordan or the Clips.  He took multiple shots at Deandre as a player and his salary in that article, and why?  Because deandre made a play that people are talking about.  It's not like deandre is on a personal mission to humiliate Knight.  Knight just happened to be the guy that was in the play.

So just because Woj does not like that the MEDIA and fans are excited about that play...

Jordan has a fairly flawed game - particularly at his salary.  And fine maybe its the media, or the players on twitter - it doesn't make the glorification of the act any less ridiculous.  Dunks != W's and that's what the world forgets.

Deandre Jordan can dunk. What would have been more impressive is seeing him make either a left handed reverse layup OR a free throw.  But we glorify dunking over infants - swell.

[4THQTR]

I think it is pretty clear that Woj has some type of dislike for either Jordan or the Clips.  He took multiple shots at Deandre as a player and his salary in that article, and why?  Because deandre made a play that people are talking about.  It's not like deandre is on a personal mission to humiliate Knight.  Knight just happened to be the guy that was in the play.

So just because Woj does not like that the MEDIA and fans are excited about that play...

Jordan has a fairly flawed game - particularly at his salary.  And fine maybe its the media, or the players on twitter - it doesn't make the glorification of the act any less ridiculous.  Dunks != W's and that's what the world forgets.

Deandre Jordan can dunk. What would have been more impressive is seeing him make either a left handed reverse layup OR a free throw. But we glorify dunking over infants - swell.

I suppose you never saw him swishing the and-one free throw after the dunk...? With his left hand...

And as much as some people hate to hear it: Basketball still is nothing more than entertainment for most and most do find it more entertaining to watch a guy finishing an alley-oop with a dunk than seeing a guy hitting a midrange shot. Fans have every right to get excited about a dunk without implicitly stating that a dunk counts as more points than a layup.

I have no idea what the big deal is here. I certainly fail to see how this is even on the subject of "the NBA's corrupt principles"...

[KGs Knee]

I'll say this.  I did not read the article, and do not care to.  Woj has gotten to the point with his "soapbox" articles, that I just don't care to read a whole lot of his stuff lately.

But, as I said earlier, the dunk is the most over-hyped, meaningless play in basketball.  Dunks don't impress me.  Winning impresses me.




DUNKS ARE ONLY TWO POINTS....JUMPSHOTS ARE ALSO TWO POINTS....TWO POINTS IS TWO POINTS....

[GreenEnvy]

I haven't read the the article or most of the replies, but I see this is about Jordan's dunk on Knight. It was a great dunk. If it was a Celtic who did it, I most certainly would have rewound it a couple times.

But that's it. It wasn't an all-time dunk or something that needs to be tweeted out. It was a near 7-footer getting crazy high for a dunk on a nearly 6-foot G. I don't get the overdramatizing of the play. People can like what they want, but I appreciate Knight's split-second instincts to contest the shot. I enjoy a dunk as much as the next (non-casual) fan, but I appreciate good basketball instead.

Had it been a Celtic contesting a shot getting dunked on like that, I'd admittedly probably let out a little chuckle but proud to have that type of player willing to get posterized for a chance at breaking up a play.

This is reaching the level of overrated-ness that Wade/LeBron 3/4 court alley-oop is.

I hope to read the article if/when I have time cause I like Woj.

[LooseCannon]

I think it is pretty clear that Woj has some type of dislike for either Jordan or the Clips.

I don't see anything wrong with that.

Here is a better response to Woj.  At SB Nation, Mike PRada makes the argument that Brandon Knight didn't make the right play, as Prada suggests Woj implies, but that Knight could have rotated faster to prevent the lob from being thrown.  Still, Prada says it is a difficult though not impossible rotation and Knight should be lauded for not giving up rather than for trying to "disrupt" the play.

[fairweatherfan]

Some of yall seem to be missing the point. Hes not condemning Deandre Jordan for dunking, he condemning basketball fans as a whole for ridiculing Brandon Knight for making the absolutely right basketball play as a 6'3" guard protecting the rim against a 7 footer.

Once again, im dissapointed by celticsblog posters.

He is taking a couple shots at Jordan's ability too, but I took away the same thing you did - it's fine to enjoy spectacular plays like that, but when the focus is not on the guy dunking but the guy getting dunked on, with the implication that he shouldn't have even tried to stop it, it's a little messed up.

[LooseCannon]

Maybe Brandon Knight should be thinking "What would Demarcus Cousins do"?

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Jordan is a terrible offensive player outside of alley-oops, and even on defense—his forté—he averages only 7 rebounds and 1.4 blocks, despite his youth, size, and freak athleticism.

DeAndre Jordan has a rebounding rate of more than 17 percent. That is very good. This means he's a very good rebounuder. He's also a good shot blocker. 1.4 blocks in 24 minutes a game is actually decent.

The definition of "good," "very good," and "decent" is at least somewhat subjective, so you could be closer to being "right" than I, or vice versa, but anyway, it just seems to me that a guy who's big, tall, athletic, and a great leaper should be able to collect more than 7 boards a game. And if he was really good, he should be playing more than 24 minutes a game, but he's not, which tells me there's something severely wrong with his game—everyone knows about his bad free-throw shooting, but there's also the fact that he's useless on offense outside of alleys and putbacks. Can't post up, can't shoot outside, can't put the ball on the floor. So he's probably doing as much harm as good when he's on the floor.

[aporel#18]

I don't think Woj has to be revered for his article, but he's right at praising players trying to defend. I hate those Western Conference games with no D at all.

If the dunk was Jeff Green on Nate Robinson (similar size disparity), we'd celebrate during the game, but I wouldn't be bragging about that for a single minute. And of course, we'd have to acknowledge Nate's effort.

What's beyond disgusting is how the media takes this highlights and shoves it on every screen like it was an amazing thing. That's why the NBA is such a joke, but also soccer nowadays. They build "superheroes" out of highlights, and they sell them as role models to imitate.
Where's the love for the game?

That's why is great to be a Celtic.