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Re: Barbosa = Pietrus of the year?
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2013, 02:05:39 PM »

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Pietrus? I think you're confused about his contributions to the Celtics.

But Barbosa's role is not worth more than the vet. min. or the bi-annual exception if available to us. Same thing with Pietrus.

Barbosa is definitely worth more than the vet. min...
Pietrus was our greatest motivator last year and also a good backup to Pierce, he also should get more than the vet. min,

The vet. min is for people like Jason Collins and Keyon Dooling. Barbosa/Pietrus should make more than 2 million a year at the VERY least

The problem is that we have other roster priorities and limited resources to get them, so no, I can't see Barbosa being valued more than vet. min., considering how deep we're in our guard rotation, and with the return of Rondo, how much bench he'll be eating for someone to be making more than vet. min.

We'll never have consistency then if all we do is get players like Pietrus/Barbosa on vet. min deals since the next year, they leave for better deals... :\ They're necessary for a championship.

Did you see how much money Barbosa was making last year?? That's what he deserves!

Deserving, and what we can/should give him to stay in our roster are two different things.

I don't know what the heck you're talking about consistency, but we have Rondo, Courtney Lee, Jason Terry, Avery Bradley signed for 3 years. In addition, we have Green and Garnett signed for 4 and 3 years, and Sully for 4/5 years, and Pierce here for long as KG is here most probably.

What consistency are you specifically talking about when considering our 5th/6th guard in our rotation?

If a player gets paid $850k, yet plays like a $3 million dollar player for a year (and has been consistent every year of his career except the one where he got offered $850k), how much should he make when he looks for his next contract??

This has nothing to do with what the Celtics should give him.

What you should be thinking about is what resources we have at our disposal, and how we allocate them, particularly finding an upgrade for our center rotation, an additional SF since we only have two at the moment.

Clearly that's not our plan, because the only guys Danny tried to get as bigs were Collins/Wilcox/Darko who are all minimum players.

There must be a reason we tried people like Jamar Smith, Leandro Barbosa, Dionte Christmas and barely put effort into who was it... Micah Downs??? Kurz??? Danny would rather us go small and Barbosa works in small rotations!

That's because we wasted all our resources to sign Jason Terry this year, and now we're very close to the hard cap.

We had Rondo/Bradley/Barbosa/Christmas/Lee/Dooling/Smith/Terry in consideration... at the end, 6 of 8 were backcourt player leaving us 7 spaces to fill three positions. Take away KG/Pierce and there's 5.

We got three adequate guys in Collins/Darko/Wilcox

Then there's Bass to long-term deal
And Green to long-term deal

OBVIOUSLY, we weren't trying to get big and were gonna wait for a Ryan Hollins/Sean Williams type player
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Re: Barbosa = Pietrus of the year?
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2013, 02:05:45 PM »

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Pietrus? I think you're confused about his contributions to the Celtics.

But Barbosa's role is not worth more than the vet. min. or the bi-annual exception if available to us. Same thing with Pietrus.

Barbosa is definitely worth more than the vet. min...
Pietrus was our greatest motivator last year and also a good backup to Pierce, he also should get more than the vet. min,

The vet. min is for people like Jason Collins and Keyon Dooling. Barbosa/Pietrus should make more than 2 million a year at the VERY least

The problem is that we have other roster priorities and limited resources to get them, so no, I can't see Barbosa being valued more than vet. min., considering how deep we're in our guard rotation, and with the return of Rondo, how much bench he'll be eating for someone to be making more than vet. min.

We'll never have consistency then if all we do is get players like Pietrus/Barbosa on vet. min deals since the next year, they leave for better deals... :\ They're necessary for a championship.

Did you see how much money Barbosa was making last year?? That's what he deserves!

Deserving, and what we can/should give him to stay in our roster are two different things.

I don't know what the heck you're talking about consistency, but we have Rondo, Courtney Lee, Jason Terry, Avery Bradley signed for 3 years. In addition, we have Green and Garnett signed for 4 and 3 years, and Sully for 4/5 years, and Pierce here for long as KG is here most probably.

What consistency are you specifically talking about when considering our 5th/6th guard in our rotation?

If a player gets paid $850k, yet plays like a $3 million dollar player for a year (and has been consistent every year of his career except the one where he got offered $850k), how much should he make when he looks for his next contract??

This has nothing to do with what the Celtics should give him.

What you should be thinking about is what resources we have at our disposal, and how we allocate them, particularly finding an upgrade for our center rotation, an additional SF since we only have two at the moment.

Clearly that's not our plan, because the only guys Danny tried to get as bigs were Collins/Wilcox/Darko who are all minimum players.

There must be a reason we tried people like Jamar Smith, Leandro Barbosa, Dionte Christmas and barely put effort into who was it... Micah Downs??? Kurz??? Danny would rather us go small and Barbosa works in small rotations!

That's because we wasted used all our resources to sign Jason Terry this year, and now we're very close to the hard cap.

Thanks for the correction :)

Re: Barbosa = Pietrus of the year?
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2013, 02:08:01 PM »

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Pietrus? I think you're confused about his contributions to the Celtics.

But Barbosa's role is not worth more than the vet. min. or the bi-annual exception if available to us. Same thing with Pietrus.

Barbosa is definitely worth more than the vet. min...
Pietrus was our greatest motivator last year and also a good backup to Pierce, he also should get more than the vet. min,

The vet. min is for people like Jason Collins and Keyon Dooling. Barbosa/Pietrus should make more than 2 million a year at the VERY least

The problem is that we have other roster priorities and limited resources to get them, so no, I can't see Barbosa being valued more than vet. min., considering how deep we're in our guard rotation, and with the return of Rondo, how much bench he'll be eating for someone to be making more than vet. min.

We'll never have consistency then if all we do is get players like Pietrus/Barbosa on vet. min deals since the next year, they leave for better deals... :\ They're necessary for a championship.

Did you see how much money Barbosa was making last year?? That's what he deserves!

Deserving, and what we can/should give him to stay in our roster are two different things.

I don't know what the heck you're talking about consistency, but we have Rondo, Courtney Lee, Jason Terry, Avery Bradley signed for 3 years. In addition, we have Green and Garnett signed for 4 and 3 years, and Sully for 4/5 years, and Pierce here for long as KG is here most probably.

What consistency are you specifically talking about when considering our 5th/6th guard in our rotation?

If a player gets paid $850k, yet plays like a $3 million dollar player for a year (and has been consistent every year of his career except the one where he got offered $850k), how much should he make when he looks for his next contract??

This has nothing to do with what the Celtics should give him.

What you should be thinking about is what resources we have at our disposal, and how we allocate them, particularly finding an upgrade for our center rotation, an additional SF since we only have two at the moment.

Clearly that's not our plan, because the only guys Danny tried to get as bigs were Collins/Wilcox/Darko who are all minimum players.

There must be a reason we tried people like Jamar Smith, Leandro Barbosa, Dionte Christmas and barely put effort into who was it... Micah Downs??? Kurz??? Danny would rather us go small and Barbosa works in small rotations!

That's because we wasted all our resources to sign Jason Terry this year, and now we're very close to the hard cap.

We had Rondo/Bradley/Barbosa/Christmas/Lee/Dooling/Smith/Terry in consideration... at the end, 6 of 8 were backcourt player leaving us 7 spaces to fill three positions. Take away KG/Pierce and there's 5.

We got three adequate guys in Collins/Darko/Wilcox

Then there's Bass to long-term deal
And Green to long-term deal

OBVIOUSLY, we weren't trying to get big and were gonna wait for a Ryan Hollins/Sean Williams type player

I'm going out of a limb here, but I'm going to guess that you don't know how the CBA works and understand the resources we have at our disposal right?

Re: Barbosa = Pietrus of the year?
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2013, 02:13:36 PM »

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Pietrus? I think you're confused about his contributions to the Celtics.

But Barbosa's role is not worth more than the vet. min. or the bi-annual exception if available to us. Same thing with Pietrus.

Barbosa is definitely worth more than the vet. min...
Pietrus was our greatest motivator last year and also a good backup to Pierce, he also should get more than the vet. min,

The vet. min is for people like Jason Collins and Keyon Dooling. Barbosa/Pietrus should make more than 2 million a year at the VERY least

The problem is that we have other roster priorities and limited resources to get them, so no, I can't see Barbosa being valued more than vet. min., considering how deep we're in our guard rotation, and with the return of Rondo, how much bench he'll be eating for someone to be making more than vet. min.

We'll never have consistency then if all we do is get players like Pietrus/Barbosa on vet. min deals since the next year, they leave for better deals... :\ They're necessary for a championship.

Did you see how much money Barbosa was making last year?? That's what he deserves!

Deserving, and what we can/should give him to stay in our roster are two different things.

I don't know what the heck you're talking about consistency, but we have Rondo, Courtney Lee, Jason Terry, Avery Bradley signed for 3 years. In addition, we have Green and Garnett signed for 4 and 3 years, and Sully for 4/5 years, and Pierce here for long as KG is here most probably.

What consistency are you specifically talking about when considering our 5th/6th guard in our rotation?

If a player gets paid $850k, yet plays like a $3 million dollar player for a year (and has been consistent every year of his career except the one where he got offered $850k), how much should he make when he looks for his next contract??

This has nothing to do with what the Celtics should give him.

What you should be thinking about is what resources we have at our disposal, and how we allocate them, particularly finding an upgrade for our center rotation, an additional SF since we only have two at the moment.

Clearly that's not our plan, because the only guys Danny tried to get as bigs were Collins/Wilcox/Darko who are all minimum players.

There must be a reason we tried people like Jamar Smith, Leandro Barbosa, Dionte Christmas and barely put effort into who was it... Micah Downs??? Kurz??? Danny would rather us go small and Barbosa works in small rotations!

That's because we wasted all our resources to sign Jason Terry this year, and now we're very close to the hard cap.

We had Rondo/Bradley/Barbosa/Christmas/Lee/Dooling/Smith/Terry in consideration... at the end, 6 of 8 were backcourt player leaving us 7 spaces to fill three positions. Take away KG/Pierce and there's 5.

We got three adequate guys in Collins/Darko/Wilcox

Then there's Bass to long-term deal
And Green to long-term deal

OBVIOUSLY, we weren't trying to get big and were gonna wait for a Ryan Hollins/Sean Williams type player

I'm going out of a limb here, but I'm going to guess that you don't know how the CBA works and understand the resources we have at our disposal right?

I have a basic idea but if we didn't sign certain players (Bass/Green/Terry) to such big deals, Barbosa/Pietrus could get bigger paychecks, right??
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Re: Barbosa = Pietrus of the year?
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2013, 02:16:05 PM »

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Pietrus? I think you're confused about his contributions to the Celtics.

But Barbosa's role is not worth more than the vet. min. or the bi-annual exception if available to us. Same thing with Pietrus.

Barbosa is definitely worth more than the vet. min...
Pietrus was our greatest motivator last year and also a good backup to Pierce, he also should get more than the vet. min,

The vet. min is for people like Jason Collins and Keyon Dooling. Barbosa/Pietrus should make more than 2 million a year at the VERY least

The problem is that we have other roster priorities and limited resources to get them, so no, I can't see Barbosa being valued more than vet. min., considering how deep we're in our guard rotation, and with the return of Rondo, how much bench he'll be eating for someone to be making more than vet. min.

We'll never have consistency then if all we do is get players like Pietrus/Barbosa on vet. min deals since the next year, they leave for better deals... :\ They're necessary for a championship.

Did you see how much money Barbosa was making last year?? That's what he deserves!

Deserving, and what we can/should give him to stay in our roster are two different things.

I don't know what the heck you're talking about consistency, but we have Rondo, Courtney Lee, Jason Terry, Avery Bradley signed for 3 years. In addition, we have Green and Garnett signed for 4 and 3 years, and Sully for 4/5 years, and Pierce here for long as KG is here most probably.

What consistency are you specifically talking about when considering our 5th/6th guard in our rotation?

If a player gets paid $850k, yet plays like a $3 million dollar player for a year (and has been consistent every year of his career except the one where he got offered $850k), how much should he make when he looks for his next contract??

This has nothing to do with what the Celtics should give him.

What you should be thinking about is what resources we have at our disposal, and how we allocate them, particularly finding an upgrade for our center rotation, an additional SF since we only have two at the moment.

Clearly that's not our plan, because the only guys Danny tried to get as bigs were Collins/Wilcox/Darko who are all minimum players.

There must be a reason we tried people like Jamar Smith, Leandro Barbosa, Dionte Christmas and barely put effort into who was it... Micah Downs??? Kurz??? Danny would rather us go small and Barbosa works in small rotations!

That's because we wasted all our resources to sign Jason Terry this year, and now we're very close to the hard cap.

We had Rondo/Bradley/Barbosa/Christmas/Lee/Dooling/Smith/Terry in consideration... at the end, 6 of 8 were backcourt player leaving us 7 spaces to fill three positions. Take away KG/Pierce and there's 5.

We got three adequate guys in Collins/Darko/Wilcox

Then there's Bass to long-term deal
And Green to long-term deal

OBVIOUSLY, we weren't trying to get big and were gonna wait for a Ryan Hollins/Sean Williams type player

I'm going out of a limb here, but I'm going to guess that you don't know how the CBA works and understand the resources we have at our disposal right?

I have a basic idea but if we didn't sign certain players (Bass/Green/Terry) to such big deals, Barbosa/Pietrus could get bigger paychecks, right??

Green is irrelevant, Bass is irrelevant.

We only had 5 million to offer free-agents, Jason Terry was chosen to pick it all.

Re: Barbosa = Pietrus of the year?
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2013, 02:16:43 PM »

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They're two totally different players.  Barbosa is good on offense and Pietrus is good on defense.

Pietrus was invaluable when he got those offensive rebounds in game 4 vs Miami and then the daggers in game 5.

Let's wait to see if Barbosa can give us something like that in the playoffs.

Re: Barbosa = Pietrus of the year?
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2013, 02:17:13 PM »

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Pietrus? I think you're confused about his contributions to the Celtics.

But Barbosa's role is not worth more than the vet. min. or the bi-annual exception if available to us. Same thing with Pietrus.

Barbosa is definitely worth more than the vet. min...
Pietrus was our greatest motivator last year and also a good backup to Pierce, he also should get more than the vet. min,

The vet. min is for people like Jason Collins and Keyon Dooling. Barbosa/Pietrus should make more than 2 million a year at the VERY least

The problem is that we have other roster priorities and limited resources to get them, so no, I can't see Barbosa being valued more than vet. min., considering how deep we're in our guard rotation, and with the return of Rondo, how much bench he'll be eating for someone to be making more than vet. min.

We'll never have consistency then if all we do is get players like Pietrus/Barbosa on vet. min deals since the next year, they leave for better deals... :\ They're necessary for a championship.

Did you see how much money Barbosa was making last year?? That's what he deserves!

Deserving, and what we can/should give him to stay in our roster are two different things.

I don't know what the heck you're talking about consistency, but we have Rondo, Courtney Lee, Jason Terry, Avery Bradley signed for 3 years. In addition, we have Green and Garnett signed for 4 and 3 years, and Sully for 4/5 years, and Pierce here for long as KG is here most probably.

What consistency are you specifically talking about when considering our 5th/6th guard in our rotation?

If a player gets paid $850k, yet plays like a $3 million dollar player for a year (and has been consistent every year of his career except the one where he got offered $850k), how much should he make when he looks for his next contract??

This has nothing to do with what the Celtics should give him.

What you should be thinking about is what resources we have at our disposal, and how we allocate them, particularly finding an upgrade for our center rotation, an additional SF since we only have two at the moment.

Clearly that's not our plan, because the only guys Danny tried to get as bigs were Collins/Wilcox/Darko who are all minimum players.

There must be a reason we tried people like Jamar Smith, Leandro Barbosa, Dionte Christmas and barely put effort into who was it... Micah Downs??? Kurz??? Danny would rather us go small and Barbosa works in small rotations!

That's because we wasted all our resources to sign Jason Terry this year, and now we're very close to the hard cap.

We had Rondo/Bradley/Barbosa/Christmas/Lee/Dooling/Smith/Terry in consideration... at the end, 6 of 8 were backcourt player leaving us 7 spaces to fill three positions. Take away KG/Pierce and there's 5.

We got three adequate guys in Collins/Darko/Wilcox

Then there's Bass to long-term deal
And Green to long-term deal

OBVIOUSLY, we weren't trying to get big and were gonna wait for a Ryan Hollins/Sean Williams type player

I'm going out of a limb here, but I'm going to guess that you don't know how the CBA works and understand the resources we have at our disposal right?

I have a basic idea but if we didn't sign certain players (Bass/Green/Terry) to such big deals, Barbosa/Pietrus could get bigger paychecks, right??

Green is irrelevant, Bass is irrelevant.

We only had 5 million to offer one free-agent, Jason Terry was chosen.

That basically covers it. We decided to use our cap space on a Ray Allen replacement and fill the rest of the roster with vet mins.

Re: Barbosa = Pietrus of the year?
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2013, 02:17:35 PM »

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They're two totally different players.  Barbosa is good on offense and Pietrus is good on defense.

Pietrus was invaluable when he got those offensive rebounds in game 4 vs Miami and then the daggers in game 5.

Let's wait to see if Barbosa can give us something like that in the playoffs.

I meant cheap player playing well for team mostly, not game styles

Pietrus? I think you're confused about his contributions to the Celtics.

But Barbosa's role is not worth more than the vet. min. or the bi-annual exception if available to us. Same thing with Pietrus.

Barbosa is definitely worth more than the vet. min...
Pietrus was our greatest motivator last year and also a good backup to Pierce, he also should get more than the vet. min,

The vet. min is for people like Jason Collins and Keyon Dooling. Barbosa/Pietrus should make more than 2 million a year at the VERY least

The problem is that we have other roster priorities and limited resources to get them, so no, I can't see Barbosa being valued more than vet. min., considering how deep we're in our guard rotation, and with the return of Rondo, how much bench he'll be eating for someone to be making more than vet. min.

We'll never have consistency then if all we do is get players like Pietrus/Barbosa on vet. min deals since the next year, they leave for better deals... :\ They're necessary for a championship.

Did you see how much money Barbosa was making last year?? That's what he deserves!

Deserving, and what we can/should give him to stay in our roster are two different things.

I don't know what the heck you're talking about consistency, but we have Rondo, Courtney Lee, Jason Terry, Avery Bradley signed for 3 years. In addition, we have Green and Garnett signed for 4 and 3 years, and Sully for 4/5 years, and Pierce here for long as KG is here most probably.

What consistency are you specifically talking about when considering our 5th/6th guard in our rotation?

If a player gets paid $850k, yet plays like a $3 million dollar player for a year (and has been consistent every year of his career except the one where he got offered $850k), how much should he make when he looks for his next contract??

This has nothing to do with what the Celtics should give him.

What you should be thinking about is what resources we have at our disposal, and how we allocate them, particularly finding an upgrade for our center rotation, an additional SF since we only have two at the moment.

Clearly that's not our plan, because the only guys Danny tried to get as bigs were Collins/Wilcox/Darko who are all minimum players.

There must be a reason we tried people like Jamar Smith, Leandro Barbosa, Dionte Christmas and barely put effort into who was it... Micah Downs??? Kurz??? Danny would rather us go small and Barbosa works in small rotations!

That's because we wasted all our resources to sign Jason Terry this year, and now we're very close to the hard cap.

We had Rondo/Bradley/Barbosa/Christmas/Lee/Dooling/Smith/Terry in consideration... at the end, 6 of 8 were backcourt player leaving us 7 spaces to fill three positions. Take away KG/Pierce and there's 5.

We got three adequate guys in Collins/Darko/Wilcox

Then there's Bass to long-term deal
And Green to long-term deal

OBVIOUSLY, we weren't trying to get big and were gonna wait for a Ryan Hollins/Sean Williams type player

I'm going out of a limb here, but I'm going to guess that you don't know how the CBA works and understand the resources we have at our disposal right?

I have a basic idea but if we didn't sign certain players (Bass/Green/Terry) to such big deals, Barbosa/Pietrus could get bigger paychecks, right??

Green is irrelevant, Bass is irrelevant.

We only had 5 million to offer free-agents, Jason Terry was chosen to pick it all.

Green and Bass are not irrelevant they get paid like 15 mil a year
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Re: Barbosa = Pietrus of the year?
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2013, 02:18:55 PM »

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They're two totally different players.  Barbosa is good on offense and Pietrus is good on defense.

Pietrus was invaluable when he got those offensive rebounds in game 4 vs Miami and then the daggers in game 5.

Let's wait to see if Barbosa can give us something like that in the playoffs.

Pietrus also came up empty on offense pretty often in the playoffs. His defense was also not what it used to be before his knee issues.

Those are two big reasons we didn't pay to get him back, and no other teams were knocking the door down to grab him either.

Re: Barbosa = Pietrus of the year?
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2013, 02:19:23 PM »

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They're two totally different players.  Barbosa is good on offense and Pietrus is good on defense.

Pietrus was invaluable when he got those offensive rebounds in game 4 vs Miami and then the daggers in game 5.

Let's wait to see if Barbosa can give us something like that in the playoffs.

I meant cheap player playing well for team mostly, not game styles

Pietrus? I think you're confused about his contributions to the Celtics.

But Barbosa's role is not worth more than the vet. min. or the bi-annual exception if available to us. Same thing with Pietrus.

Barbosa is definitely worth more than the vet. min...
Pietrus was our greatest motivator last year and also a good backup to Pierce, he also should get more than the vet. min,

The vet. min is for people like Jason Collins and Keyon Dooling. Barbosa/Pietrus should make more than 2 million a year at the VERY least

The problem is that we have other roster priorities and limited resources to get them, so no, I can't see Barbosa being valued more than vet. min., considering how deep we're in our guard rotation, and with the return of Rondo, how much bench he'll be eating for someone to be making more than vet. min.

We'll never have consistency then if all we do is get players like Pietrus/Barbosa on vet. min deals since the next year, they leave for better deals... :\ They're necessary for a championship.

Did you see how much money Barbosa was making last year?? That's what he deserves!

Deserving, and what we can/should give him to stay in our roster are two different things.

I don't know what the heck you're talking about consistency, but we have Rondo, Courtney Lee, Jason Terry, Avery Bradley signed for 3 years. In addition, we have Green and Garnett signed for 4 and 3 years, and Sully for 4/5 years, and Pierce here for long as KG is here most probably.

What consistency are you specifically talking about when considering our 5th/6th guard in our rotation?

If a player gets paid $850k, yet plays like a $3 million dollar player for a year (and has been consistent every year of his career except the one where he got offered $850k), how much should he make when he looks for his next contract??

This has nothing to do with what the Celtics should give him.

What you should be thinking about is what resources we have at our disposal, and how we allocate them, particularly finding an upgrade for our center rotation, an additional SF since we only have two at the moment.

Clearly that's not our plan, because the only guys Danny tried to get as bigs were Collins/Wilcox/Darko who are all minimum players.

There must be a reason we tried people like Jamar Smith, Leandro Barbosa, Dionte Christmas and barely put effort into who was it... Micah Downs??? Kurz??? Danny would rather us go small and Barbosa works in small rotations!

That's because we wasted all our resources to sign Jason Terry this year, and now we're very close to the hard cap.

We had Rondo/Bradley/Barbosa/Christmas/Lee/Dooling/Smith/Terry in consideration... at the end, 6 of 8 were backcourt player leaving us 7 spaces to fill three positions. Take away KG/Pierce and there's 5.

We got three adequate guys in Collins/Darko/Wilcox

Then there's Bass to long-term deal
And Green to long-term deal

OBVIOUSLY, we weren't trying to get big and were gonna wait for a Ryan Hollins/Sean Williams type player

I'm going out of a limb here, but I'm going to guess that you don't know how the CBA works and understand the resources we have at our disposal right?

I have a basic idea but if we didn't sign certain players (Bass/Green/Terry) to such big deals, Barbosa/Pietrus could get bigger paychecks, right??

Green is irrelevant, Bass is irrelevant.

We only had 5 million to offer free-agents, Jason Terry was chosen to pick it all.

Green and Bass are not irrelevant they get paid like 15 mil a year

They were signed using other exceptions, exceptions that allow us to be over the salary cap.

The 5 million was another of those exceptions, and it was use on Jason Terry.

Re: Barbosa = Pietrus of the year?
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2013, 02:19:43 PM »

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They're two totally different players.  Barbosa is good on offense and Pietrus is good on defense.

Pietrus was invaluable when he got those offensive rebounds in game 4 vs Miami and then the daggers in game 5.

Let's wait to see if Barbosa can give us something like that in the playoffs.

Pietrus also came up empty on offense pretty often in the playoffs. His defense was also not what it used to be before his knee issues.

Those are two big reasons we didn't pay to get him back, and no other teams were knocking the door down to grab him either.

But how about Barbosa for next year/beyond?
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Re: Barbosa = Pietrus of the year?
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2013, 02:20:17 PM »

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I think Pietrus played severely below our expectations of him.  That award should go to Courtney Lee.
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Re: Barbosa = Pietrus of the year?
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2013, 02:21:12 PM »

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They're two totally different players.  Barbosa is good on offense and Pietrus is good on defense.

Pietrus was invaluable when he got those offensive rebounds in game 4 vs Miami and then the daggers in game 5.

Let's wait to see if Barbosa can give us something like that in the playoffs.

Pietrus also came up empty on offense pretty often in the playoffs. His defense was also not what it used to be before his knee issues.

Those are two big reasons we didn't pay to get him back, and no other teams were knocking the door down to grab him either.

Very true.

I will say this, though: thank God Pietrus was available when Green went down with the heart issue.  Imagine us playing last year with Sasha Pavlovic as Pierce's backup.  *vomits*

Re: Barbosa = Pietrus of the year?
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2013, 02:21:38 PM »

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I think Pietrus played severely below our expectations of him.  That award should go to Courtney Lee.

Pietrus played way better than his $1.3 million contract for most of last year (until that concussion)..
He was a great backup to Pierce and was better than the likes of Pavlovic... he gave us sparks at times on both O and D
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Re: Barbosa = Pietrus of the year?
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2013, 02:22:05 PM »

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They're two totally different players.  Barbosa is good on offense and Pietrus is good on defense.

Pietrus was invaluable when he got those offensive rebounds in game 4 vs Miami and then the daggers in game 5.

Let's wait to see if Barbosa can give us something like that in the playoffs.

Pietrus also came up empty on offense pretty often in the playoffs. His defense was also not what it used to be before his knee issues.

Those are two big reasons we didn't pay to get him back, and no other teams were knocking the door down to grab him either.

Very true.

I will say this, though: thank God Pietrus was available when Green went down with the heart issue.  Imagine us playing last year with Sasha Pavlovic as Pierce's backup.  *vomits*

Yea... Pietrus > Pavlovic
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