Someone come defend the worst C's team in their History.

[hpantazo]

we stopped being serious contenders in early 2011 when Shaq broke.  Then we managed to overachieve, ride the last fumes of our stretch, draw a couple easy teams and make it to the ECF last year.   We had been below .500 in the middle of last season.  This year isn't much different.  Wait until after the trade deadline to panic.  This was all expected.

Disagree.  From my perspective, we were very much a contender at the end of last season and in the playoffs.

I guess from your perspective in hindsight there's only ever one true contender.

I mean we snuck by a Horford-less Atlanta and a 8th seed Philly to suddenly find ourselves as one of the last 4 teams standing.  In that respect, you could say we had a shot at a title.  But there were several teams better than us last year.  Much of the year we weren't even a .500 team.  KG suddenly started dropping 20 and 10 every night and that definitely gave us a lift, but in general we haven't been a serious threat since Shaq hobbled off the court.   

Hard to say last year's ECF visit was expected.  I think it was widely acknowledged it was one of our most "improbable" runs ever.  Sneaking into the ECF with a 59% win percentage... you have to go back to 1969 to find a Celtic team who overachieved that mightily in the playoffs.  We were essentially just riding on the fumes of a once great team... the smell of KG, Ray and Pierce had yet to fully dissipate.  That combined with a cake-walk path allowed us to get further than we had any right going.  Miami was a bit shaky until Bosh returned and it looked like a window was there.  We were just as likely to beat Miami as Philly was likely to beat us in the previous round.  Usually the cream rises to the top.

We were also very lucky that Rose was out for Chicago last year. Heck, the Heat were very lucky that Rose was out last year.

[ChainSmokingLikeDino]

As I could barely even begin to imagine any group with any self respect, would actually think they are fooling people into thinking they are giving a convincing appearance of effort to try and win a game. HAHAHAHAHAHA.

I am as big a Celtic's fan as anyone. But I've been saying it all year. This is one of the worst teams other than the 'effort' guys I've ever seen in my life. No heart, no effort, nothing, they  are completely vacant and not even a team deserving of being watched or cared about this year.

I truly am sorry to all the fans that spent money to see the C's. I came so close to dropping decent money but then I would only resent them.

This season is a wash and not even a trade (unless it gets Jet, Lee, Green and Bass out of here) is going to save this team. I say that because those 4 players are an example of what not to be in a basketball player. Skiddish, scared, hesitant, no fire, no energy, listless, overpaid, lazy, no confidence, no chemistry, no pride in being paid to play a game, no effort, on heart, no desire or will to win. These 4 players specifically, Brandon Bass, Jeff Green, Jason Terry and Courtney Lee, have basically stolen money from you and should be ashamed of themselves.

I would rather see this team lose every game and at least give effort, put forth the perception that by getting paid 50k-150k a game, 30 minutes of pure heart, effort, desire, that you would try to give your fans a show, a game. Not the garbage the Celtics are putting on the court 75-80% of the time.

Funny I see people in comments not going to bed because they were only down by 15, must be nice to have such blind faith in a team like you do. So sad for me to see the truth.



The entire organization should be ashamed and embarrassed of this years team.

what a joke.
 

[mgent]

And, you don't remember the absolute 24-win garbage the Celtics put out there as recently as 2006-7 - despite the constant calls on this board to put that group of flotsam and jetsam back together.

Really?  I see you say this all the time, but where are all these threads about Wally Szczerbiak, Ryan Gomes, Allan Ray, Sebastian Telfair, Kevinn Pinkney, Olowokandi, etc?

I've seen threads about Tony Allen, Al Jefferson, Delonte West, Kendrick Perkins, all NBA rotation players.

There have been threads on this board advocating the return of Gomes in every off-season since he was jettisoned.

Fewer threads for Sebustian Tellfailure, but they have been there.

It's incredible, not to mention a challenge to the credibility of the advocates of same, how romanticized one of the worst Celtic teams ever has become on this board.

So how does "constant calls on this board" equate to the occasional ignorance  of someone wanting a career 39% FG shooter?

The majority of threads are for Tony Allen, Al Jefferson, Delonte West, Kendrick Perkins.  And yes, you say the same thing in those threads.

People don't want them because they want the "loser gang."  They want them because they fit a need.  Even Ryan Gomes threads weren't begging us to trade for him, they were to sign him as an end of roster guy because no one wanted him and he was cheap.  And that's mostly a Providence thing anyway.

[ScottHow]

Worst in history? Might be a little over the top.

[Lord of Mikawa]

There have been some pretty bad teams in our history. This isn't one of them. None of those teams had the potential that this one does and that is what frustrates us.

[Casperian]

I mean we snuck by a Horford-less Atlanta and a 8th seed Philly to suddenly find ourselves as one of the last 4 teams standing.  In that respect, you could say we had a shot at a title.  But there were several teams better than us last year.  Much of the year we weren't even a .500 team.  KG suddenly started dropping 20 and 10 every night and that definitely gave us a lift, but in general we haven't been a serious threat since Shaq hobbled off the court.   

Hard to say last year's ECF visit was expected.  I think it was widely acknowledged it was one of our most "improbable" runs ever.  Sneaking into the ECF with a 59% win percentage... you have to go back to 1969 to find a Celtic team who overachieved that mightily in the playoffs.  We were essentially just riding on the fumes of a once great team... the smell of KG, Ray and Pierce had yet to fully dissipate.  That combined with a cake-walk path allowed us to get further than we had any right going.  Miami was a bit shaky until Bosh returned and it looked like a window was there.  We were just as likely to beat Miami as Philly was likely to beat us in the previous round.  Usually the cream rises to the top.

Thank you for saving me the effort.

TP

[Celtics18]

we stopped being serious contenders in early 2011 when Shaq broke.  Then we managed to overachieve, ride the last fumes of our stretch, draw a couple easy teams and make it to the ECF last year.   We had been below .500 in the middle of last season.  This year isn't much different.  Wait until after the trade deadline to panic.  This was all expected.

Disagree.  From my perspective, we were very much a contender at the end of last season and in the playoffs.

I guess from your perspective in hindsight there's only ever one true contender.

I mean we snuck by a Horford-less Atlanta and a 8th seed Philly to suddenly find ourselves as one of the last 4 teams standing.  In that respect, you could say we had a shot at a title.  But there were several teams better than us last year.  Much of the year we weren't even a .500 team.  KG suddenly started dropping 20 and 10 every night and that definitely gave us a lift, but in general we haven't been a serious threat since Shaq hobbled off the court.   

Hard to say last year's ECF visit was expected.  I think it was widely acknowledged it was one of our most "improbable" runs ever.  Sneaking into the ECF with a 59% win percentage... you have to go back to 1969 to find a Celtic team who overachieved that mightily in the playoffs.  We were essentially just riding on the fumes of a once great team... the smell of KG, Ray and Pierce had yet to fully dissipate.  That combined with a cake-walk path allowed us to get further than we had any right going.  Miami was a bit shaky until Bosh returned and it looked like a window was there.  We were just as likely to beat Miami as Philly was likely to beat us in the previous round.  Usually the cream rises to the top.

Name the several teams who you think were more legitimate contenders than the Celtics last year. 

[eugen]

I am as big a Celtic's fan as anyone. But I've been saying it all year. This is one of the worst teams other than the 'effort' guys I've ever seen in my life. No heart, no effort, nothing, they  are completely vacant and not even a team deserving of being watched or cared about this year.

After Perks trade, Cs lost a big man, and in the same this team started the process of disintegration. From championshoip team of 2008, this team has only 3 elements. But this year, the team is getting down

[CelticG1]

You missed the Pitino era I take it.

And the M.L. Carr era

And the Al Jefferson era.

And the Ricky Davis era

[Celtics18]

I mean we snuck by a Horford-less Atlanta and a 8th seed Philly to suddenly find ourselves as one of the last 4 teams standing.  In that respect, you could say we had a shot at a title.  But there were several teams better than us last year.  Much of the year we weren't even a .500 team.  KG suddenly started dropping 20 and 10 every night and that definitely gave us a lift, but in general we haven't been a serious threat since Shaq hobbled off the court.   

Hard to say last year's ECF visit was expected.  I think it was widely acknowledged it was one of our most "improbable" runs ever.  Sneaking into the ECF with a 59% win percentage... you have to go back to 1969 to find a Celtic team who overachieved that mightily in the playoffs.  We were essentially just riding on the fumes of a once great team... the smell of KG, Ray and Pierce had yet to fully dissipate.  That combined with a cake-walk path allowed us to get further than we had any right going.  Miami was a bit shaky until Bosh returned and it looked like a window was there.  We were just as likely to beat Miami as Philly was likely to beat us in the previous round.  Usually the cream rises to the top.

Thank you for saving me the effort.

TP

I expected this team to make a serious run in the playoffs, and I know I wasn't alone.  So, for me it wasn't unexpected at all.  This wasn't just based on blind faith, but based primarily on the fact that we had (and still have) three of the best players in the game of basketball leading the team. 

Of course, for many of you naysayers our run was unexpected.   You ended up being wrong about the team's capabilities.  Simple.  Now, instead of admitting this fact, you are making a ton of excuses and what ifs for the other teams.  I'm not going to engage in that kind of excuse making for my team or for any team.  I find it kind of distasteful. 

I remember many of the same posters who wrote the team off in 2010 were the same posters who wrote us off last year and are writing us off again this year. 

Of course, if this season's team finds a way to advance further than you expect, you'll surely yet again try to find ways to twist it into you being right all along. 

[Celtics18]

And, you don't remember the absolute 24-win garbage the Celtics put out there as recently as 2006-7 - despite the constant calls on this board to put that group of flotsam and jetsam back together.

Really?  I see you say this all the time, but where are all these threads about Wally Szczerbiak, Ryan Gomes, Allan Ray, Sebastian Telfair, Kevinn Pinkney, Olowokandi, etc?

I've seen threads about Tony Allen, Al Jefferson, Delonte West, Kendrick Perkins, all NBA rotation players.

There have been threads on this board advocating the return of Gomes in every off-season since he was jettisoned.

Fewer threads for Sebustian Tellfailure, but they have been there.

It's incredible, not to mention a challenge to the credibility of the advocates of same, how romanticized one of the worst Celtic teams ever has become on this board.

I'm pretty sure that you mention the 2006-2007 Celtics team way more than other poster on this board.  And, I doubt it's even close.

Maybe you are the one who needs to get over that team.

[Celts Fan 92]

You missed the Pitino era I take it.

And the M.L. Carr era

And the Al Jefferson era.

And the Ricky Davis era

Ricky Buckets was dat dude lol one of Pierce's best 2nd options pre Big 3 era

[ACF]

These Celts would have to go 0-54 the rest of the way to be the worst Celtic team ever.



Worst Celtic team ever:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/1997.html

[ScottHow]

These Celts would have to go 0-54 the rest of the way to be the worst Celtic team ever.



Worst Celtic team ever:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/1997.html

The Wiggle only attempting 1.9 three's a game! lol

[thirstyboots18]

we stopped being serious contenders in early 2011 when Shaq broke.  Then we managed to overachieve, ride the last fumes of our stretch, draw a couple easy teams and make it to the ECF last year.   We had been below .500 in the middle of last season.  This year isn't much different.  Wait until after the trade deadline to panic.  This was all expected.

Disagree.  From my perspective, we were very much a contender at the end of last season and in the playoffs.

I guess from your perspective in hindsight there's only ever one true contender.

I mean we snuck by a Horford-less Atlanta and a 8th seed Philly to suddenly find ourselves as one of the last 4 teams standing.  In that respect, you could say we had a shot at a title.  But there were several teams better than us last year.  Much of the year we weren't even a .500 team.  KG suddenly started dropping 20 and 10 every night and that definitely gave us a lift, but in general we haven't been a serious threat since Shaq hobbled off the court.   

Hard to say last year's ECF visit was expected.  I think it was widely acknowledged it was one of our most "improbable" runs ever.  Sneaking into the ECF with a 59% win percentage... you have to go back to 1969 to find a Celtic team who overachieved that mightily in the playoffs.  We were essentially just riding on the fumes of a once great team... the smell of KG, Ray and Pierce had yet to fully dissipate.  That combined with a cake-walk path allowed us to get further than we had any right going.  Miami was a bit shaky until Bosh returned and it looked like a window was there.  We were just as likely to beat Miami as Philly was likely to beat us in the previous round.  Usually the cream rises to the top.

We were also very lucky that Rose was out for Chicago last year. Heck, the Heat were very lucky that Rose was out last year.

If what you are saying is that we were lucky that players on the other teams were injured, then, inversely, the Lakers were lucky that Perkins was injured, Miami was lucky that Rondo was injured, etc. etc.   Teams have to play with the personnel they have...it evens out for everyone.  No one is lucky that someone is hurt.  It is won by the team on the floor.  You are diminishing the value of a Championship by blaming injuries, either for your team or against your team.