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Could Jeff Green be the ball handler off the bench?
« on: October 13, 2012, 01:10:59 PM »

Offline lightspeed5

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He played point forward at GeorgeTown. thoughts?

Re: Could Jeff Green be the ball handler off the bench?
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2012, 01:55:46 PM »

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In a pinch, that might be okay. But certainly not ideal.
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Re: Could Jeff Green be the ball handler off the bench?
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2012, 04:03:30 PM »

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Not full time, but he can take turns with Terry, Bradley and Lee. I think the team has to be more creative when Rondo is not in the game. Rondo is an exceptional point guard and we can't expect a backup to control the game the way he does.

Re: Could Jeff Green be the ball handler off the bench?
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2012, 04:26:58 PM »

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Probably yes, as others have said.  Even with mediocre ball handling, most forwards aren't going to be comfortable guarding him up the length of the floor. 

That said, I think this problem with a backup PG is very much overrated.  Despite the fact that Terry's more of a SG than a PG, he's still likely the best ball-handling and play-making backup PG we've had since '07-08.  We won a title with Eddie House as the backup PG and almost won another with Nate Robinson.  Terry once averaged better than 7 assists per game and has averaged better than 5 per game 4 other times.  As far as backup PGs go, that's very, very good. 


Re: Could Jeff Green be the ball handler off the bench?
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Probably yes, as others have said.  Even with mediocre ball handling, most forwards aren't going to be comfortable guarding him up the length of the floor. 

That said, I think this problem with a backup PG is very much overrated.  Despite the fact that Terry's more of a SG than a PG, he's still likely the best ball-handling and play-making backup PG we've had since '07-08.  We won a title with Eddie House as the backup PG and almost won another with Nate Robinson.  Terry once averaged better than 7 assists per game and has averaged better than 5 per game 4 other times.  As far as backup PGs go, that's very, very good.

I agree. If the Celts are fully healthy it probably won't be an issue but given the luck this team has had with unjuries in the past it would be nice to have a back up PG who can handle the ball if Rondo or Terry go down. Carlos Arroyo is ideal in my mind.

Re: Could Jeff Green be the ball handler off the bench?
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2012, 06:43:20 PM »

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He played point forward at GeorgeTown. thoughts?
Magic 8 ball says absolutely not

Re: Could Jeff Green be the ball handler off the bench?
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2012, 10:49:29 PM »

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He played point forward at GeorgeTown. thoughts?
Magic 8 ball says absolutely not
Apparently JG did it from the post. Would be interesting to see if they do that.

He had 2 passes from there today hitting Lee on his sweet spot (Lee went 1/2 there. Don't know where JG's assist went).

Re: Could Jeff Green be the ball handler off the bench?
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Probably yes, as others have said.  Even with mediocre ball handling, most forwards aren't going to be comfortable guarding him up the length of the floor. 

That said, I think this problem with a backup PG is very much overrated.  Despite the fact that Terry's more of a SG than a PG, he's still likely the best ball-handling and play-making backup PG we've had since '07-08.  We won a title with Eddie House as the backup PG and almost won another with Nate Robinson.  Terry once averaged better than 7 assists per game and has averaged better than 5 per game 4 other times.  As far as backup PGs go, that's very, very good.

I agree. If the Celts are fully healthy it probably won't be an issue but given the luck this team has had with unjuries in the past it would be nice to have a back up PG who can handle the ball if Rondo or Terry go down. Carlos Arroyo is ideal in my mind.
Also agree with Jon.  Not sure why backup PG is a concern.  Besides Terry (who is a better playmaker than House or Robinson) we also have Bradley returning who is capable of spot PG minutes, as even CLee is a decent ball handler. In the thread about the last few roster spots, folks are asking who can play PG, but you can bet Doc is not going to give the car keys to some rookie.  Ainge will go out and get a vet PG if necessary.  I too like Arroyo and there may be other vet PG's available if the need arises, but again it's not s big need with Terry Bradley and Lee on the roster.

Re: Could Jeff Green be the ball handler off the bench?
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He played point forward at GeorgeTown. thoughts?
Magic 8 ball says absolutely not
Apparently JG did it from the post. Would be interesting to see if they do that.

He had 2 passes from there today hitting Lee on his sweet spot (Lee went 1/2 there. Don't know where JG's assist went).
Two passes does not a point forward make.  If that's the bar then maybe Darko should be point center

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I agree.  Arroyo would be a nice pickup.  He knows the offense to some extent and would be content to ride the pine at this point in his career. 

But I think the concern should be third string PG right now, not an effort to find a better ball-handler to backup Rondo.  As I already discussed above, Terry's probably the best backup PG we've had in this era. 

Will he be a step down from Rondo in terms of playmaking and ball-handling?  Absolutely.  But we'd be facing the same problem if Russell Westbrook was our backup PG, so I wouldn't lose too much sleep over that issue. 

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Seems to me KJ is pretty slick with ball and SMART too... I'm surpized he has been given a shot a the 2 postion.

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According to Gorman, Green is James Worthyesque.  I don't think Worthy was a big time secondary ball handler.  Therefore, I doubt Green is going to control the ball a lot.  But who knows, just like nobody thinks Green is athletic (which I don't believe anybody did except for Gorman and Donny), maybe he'll surprise.  But what does ball handler off the bench even mean?  Green will handle the ball to create his own shot but I doubt he'll be going coast to coast since that's not his game nor is directing the offense at the top of the key.

The preseason game against the Knicks was insufferable because of the broadcasting. I don't know what gets into Gorman but he becomes the smarniest, unlikable person when the Celtics play the Knicks.  Every single time Carmelo made a pass he made a snide remark. Just shut it.  Just go back to wondering why teams play for the last shot of the quarter.

And Donny was his stupid self as usual.  Do some research.  The Knicks were 5th in defense last season but he thinks they won't be able to run because they can't stop anybody.  He also thinks Sullinger is a lot like Big Baby but isn't the dunker that Big Baby was.  The Big Baby who wouldn't be able to dunk if the rim was a centimeter higher.  The Big Baby who had I reckon 6 total dunks his entire Celtics career.  Sullinger is supposed to be the non-dunking version of Big Baby.  Shouldn't one's brain just hemorrhage itself after it utters such inanity?

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Re: Could Jeff Green be the ball handler off the bench?
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I vote yes.

Re: Could Jeff Green be the ball handler off the bench?
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2012, 04:33:33 AM »

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He played point forward at GeorgeTown. thoughts?
Magic 8 ball says absolutely not
Apparently JG did it from the post. Would be interesting to see if they do that.

He had 2 passes from there today hitting Lee on his sweet spot (Lee went 1/2 there. Don't know where JG's assist went).
Two passes does not a point forward make.  If that's the bar then maybe Darko should be point center

Obviously but it looked pretty natural how he kicked it out. I'd be interested in a less ball-handler centric offense with the likes of Jason Terry, Courtney Lee and Green all being able to create.