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Re: Stern vetoes cp3 for bynum/gasol, but allows howard for bynum.
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2012, 12:38:54 AM »

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finally someone that gets it.. He was doing the Hornet's owner's bidding. Thanks for clarifying.

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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2012, 12:50:26 AM »

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Owners may have complained, but there's no way Stern is going to do what Mark Cuban tells him to do.

Stern nixed the deal because it didn't serve the Hornets interests in rebuilding. He totally threw Demps under the bus doing it too.

Stern had a better plan in mind: rig the lottery, then draft Austin Rivers with the other pick.  Not so bad!  :)

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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2012, 01:31:32 AM »

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Wasn't this the first time Stern has vetoed a trade?

I bet it's only a coincidence that he technically owned the team at the time too...


 
I like Marcus Smart

Re: Stern vetoes cp3 for bynum/gasol, but allows howard for bynum.
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2012, 01:53:09 AM »

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Stop it.  That Hornets trade that the Hornets ownership nixed was an awful trade.  The one eventually accepted was far better and will work out for them FAR FAR better than the garbage Scola/Martin/Odom albatrosses they would have been stuck with.

That has nothing to do with the Lakers building one of the greatest teams on paper in history.

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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2012, 02:44:46 AM »

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The hornets gm was trying to get good older guys to brighten up his cv. Stern as the owner vetoed the trade to preserve the value of the franchise, then he rigged the lotto to make it even more valuable

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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2012, 03:09:16 AM »

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The hornets gm was trying to get good older guys to brighten up his cv. Stern as the owner vetoed the trade to preserve the value of the franchise, then he rigged the lotto to make it even more valuable
As acting owner he rejected a trade that would have buried the team financially and did nothing to improve their long term chances at being profitable, interesting or relevant. They would have received Odom, Scola and Martin.  Odom flamed out in Dallas.  Scola is so mediocre he has been cut.  Martin is overpaid and constantly injured. It was a horrible and stupid trade for the Hornets to even consider.   Instead, they approved a trade that netted them Eric Gordon, a top 10 pick... and put them in position to tank.  THere was no "fixing" of the lotto.  It just worked out.  It's the "no brainer" approach to building a team... cap space, young assets and draft picks.  You don't bring in a bunch of overpaid mediocre players in their mid 30s.  Everyone needs to get off Stern's jock.  He's a [dang] fine commish. 


Don't direct your disappointment in the Lakers becoming a dominant team at Stern.

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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2012, 03:25:33 AM »

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as i already posted the trade trade stern vetoed was vetoed cause it brought in old guys that would have perhaps qualified the hornets for an eigth seed, stern is not to blame for vetoing a bad trade, which i considered bad at the time.

However stern is to blame for lotto rigging and game rigging, his turned the nba into the wwe, a star driven sport, where calls are based on rep, just like the wwe. Note this doesn't mean the nba can not be enjoyed just like reality tv and wwe can be enjoyed, although they are both rigged.

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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2012, 04:03:52 AM »

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Stop it.  That Hornets trade that the Hornets ownership nixed was an awful trade.  The one eventually accepted was far better and will work out for them FAR FAR better than the garbage Scola/Martin/Odom albatrosses they would have been stuck with.

That has nothing to do with the Lakers building one of the greatest teams on paper in history.

Another guy who gets it...Hornets' trade that the OWNERSHIP nixed.

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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2012, 04:26:04 AM »

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as i already posted the trade trade stern vetoed was vetoed cause it brought in old guys that would have perhaps qualified the hornets for an eigth seed, stern is not to blame for vetoing a bad trade, which i considered bad at the time.

However stern is to blame for lotto rigging and game rigging, his turned the nba into the wwe, a star driven sport, where calls are based on rep, just like the wwe. Note this doesn't mean the nba can not be enjoyed just like reality tv and wwe can be enjoyed, although they are both rigged.
Dude you're still operating under a wild/crazy assumption that the lotto is rigged.  You can't say that lightly.  You either are joking around or literally believe the league you follow and love is entirely rigged.  In which case...accept that the entire league is rigged, accept that the 2008 title was rigged...  accept that Kevin Garnett was gifted to the Celtics by Stern... accept that the Celtics were a key part of the theatrics that drove this league for the past 5 years...  and either embrace it or quit following it.

I'm really tired of people claiming the NBA is fixed and then pretending like a "fixed league" had nothing to do with Boston's success over the past 5 years.  If the system is a fraud, we have been one of the key beneficiaries of it.  The "this league is fixed... they are holding us down!" logic is crazy. 

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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2012, 05:03:21 AM »

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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--nba-s-problematic-ownership-of-hornets-opens-door-to-rigged-talk-over-draft-lottery-20120531.html

The reaction of several league executives was part disgust, part resignation on Wednesday night. So many had predicted this happening, so many suspected that somehow, someway, the Hornets would walk away with Davis. That’s the worst part for the NBA; these aren’t the railings from the guy sitting at the corner tavern, but the belief of those working within the machinery that something undue happened here, that they suspect it happens all the time under Stern.

it figures the people that actually work in the nba actually believe its rigged

Btw the definition of riggness isn't to change the outcome it's the attempt to change the outcome, so the fact that the nba isn't  always sucessfull at rigging it doesn't mean that they never rig it, or aren't trying to. The 1917 white sox didn't lose every game.

I don't have that big problem with the nba match fixing, I mean i can find pro wrestling and reality tv entertaining, so why shouldn't i be able to enjoy a rigged nba. If people wanna shut their and pretend it's not rigged thats their bussiness

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« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2012, 05:04:01 AM »

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Bynum wasn't part of the nixed CP3 deal, it was Gasol and Odom.

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« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2012, 05:51:30 AM »

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The league doesn't own the magic.

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« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2012, 08:50:42 AM »

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Owners may have complained, but there's no way Stern is going to do what Mark Cuban tells him to do.

Stern nixed the deal because it didn't serve the Hornets interests in rebuilding. He totally threw Demps under the bus doing it too.

Stern had a better plan in mind: rig the lottery, then draft Austin Rivers with the other pick.  Not so bad!  :)

Funny, I was at my friends house when the Lottery order came out and I called that NO would get the 1st pick.Kinda obvious to me.  I am surprised when I didnt hear more about it after the draft. 

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« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2012, 09:11:17 AM »

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Stop it.  That Hornets trade that the Hornets ownership nixed was an awful trade.  The one eventually accepted was far better and will work out for them FAR FAR better than the garbage Scola/Martin/Odom albatrosses they would have been stuck with.

That has nothing to do with the Lakers building one of the greatest teams on paper in history.

Yeah, this drives me nuts.  Completely different situation. 

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« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2012, 09:42:41 AM »

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???

Because Stern isn't acting owner of the Magic.

He was of the Hornets at the time.

And because Stern, like the rest of the modern world, was sick of the never ending Dwightmare. It had to stop. Thank goodness that it did. I'm turning the page and looking forward to the Celtics season. Good riddance Dwight.
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