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claiming a player, trade exemptions and you
« on: July 17, 2012, 11:33:12 PM »

Offline 317

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quoting from Mr. Coon's F&Q

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A team can claim a waived player before he clears waivers only if the following is true:

The team has a trade exception for at least the player's salary

Amnestied players also fit into this rule.

the confusing math part someone else can figure out also from said F&Q.

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The minimum bid for a partial waiver claim is whichever of the following is larger:

    The sum of the player's minimum salary for all remaining years of his contract, except for completely non-guaranteed seasons (seasons with 0% salary protection) which are ignored for this purpose.
    The sum of all non-guaranteed salary in partially-guaranteed seasons.

what does this have to do with the Celtics you ask? in theory we can sign and trade oh say Dooling, on a (i think) 1 year contract for x non guarantied dollars(do we have his bird rights? if not then it would be what ~3 million) along with $3,000,000. whoever we trade him to(im looking at you Sacramento) can waive him and net 3 mil for doing absolutely nothing. we would gain a ~3 mil trade exception that we could use to put a bid in on an amnestied player(assuming it wouldn't put us over the hard cap we have due to using the full MLE)

is this idea bad and/or full of holes? or is it a good idea?

Re: claiming a player, trade exemptions and you
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2012, 11:47:41 PM »

Offline xmuscularghandix

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If you have the facts right it sounds great.

Re: claiming a player, trade exemptions and you
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2012, 12:16:47 AM »

Offline KGs Knee

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You cannot sign a player to a non-guaranteed contract as part of a sign and trade.

Any player signged and traded must be signed to a minimum length contract of 3 years.  Only the first season must be fully guaranteed though.

Re: claiming a player, trade exemptions and you
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2012, 12:28:58 AM »

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I don't think you can use trade exceptions to claim amnestied players.

Re: claiming a player, trade exemptions and you
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2012, 12:36:42 AM »

Offline KGs Knee

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I don't think you can use trade exceptions to claim amnestied players.

I think you're right about this.

I don't see anywhere under the amnesty provision section, where it mentions any exceptions being allowed as a means for placing a waiver claim.  It does specifically state a team must have cap space though.

The only possible way I could see it being allowed, is if the trade exception was large enough to place a full waiver claim (essentially covering the entire remaining amount of the player's salary) as opposed to a partial waiver claim.  Even this I'm not certain about though,  I'm just putting 2 and 2 together.