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Re: So... what do we do for a center?
« Reply #105 on: July 10, 2012, 07:05:48 PM »

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We cannot S&T players who were not on our roster at the end of the year.  Any one we add new can only be traded after 90 days.

So we cannot S&T Green or Krstic, for example.  And Krstic is apparently signing in Russia anyway.

We could trade Bass, but I doubt that happens.

Note - you can only S&T a FA to a team if the FA is willing.   Bass signed to play here.

Dooling, MP - those guys are the only ones we could S&T that might provide enough 'salary beef' to get anybody decent.  The other guys we can trade all would have miniscule salaries and would only be needed as necessary to get within the '150%' window.


Pietrus couldn't even provide that beef. He played last year on a minimum contract, so all they can do to resign him is a small raise over the minimum or the BAE. And I believe players inking sign and trade deals have to be getting at least three years, which would (if true) make trading Dooling very difficult. Johnson, Williams (non guaranteed if waived by August 1) and Moore (non guaranteed if waived by end of Vegas summer league) as outgoing trade pieces would allow Boston to bring back $4.25 mil in salary.

Mohammed would be a great addition in my opinion.
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Re: So... what do we do for a center?
« Reply #106 on: July 10, 2012, 07:28:33 PM »

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Nazr Mohammed/Kurt Thomas/Birdman

The Moore for Thomas trade I read on here is the best trade Ive seen in awhile. Great idea. Really like Kurt Thomas.

Id throw the BAE to Kwame Brown maybe have Doc and KG talk Ben Wallace into coming out of retirement for the vet min. Przybilla would be nice also.
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Re: So... what do we do for a center?
« Reply #107 on: July 10, 2012, 07:30:28 PM »

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Pietrus couldn't even provide that beef. He played last year on a minimum contract, so all they can do to resign him is a small raise over the minimum or the BAE. And I believe players inking sign and trade deals have to be getting at least three years, which would (if true) make trading Dooling very difficult. Johnson, Williams (non guaranteed if waived by August 1) and Moore (non guaranteed if waived by end of Vegas summer league) as outgoing trade pieces would allow Boston to bring back $4.25 mil in salary.

Mohammed would be a great addition in my opinion.

Ugh - I for some reason thought we had MP at a higher number.  'Forgot he was a vet min pickup after being waived by Phoenix.

Dooling could be signed to a 3 yr with a non-guaranteed 3rd.  His starting number can be ~2.9M.  So you can use that as the basis.  Tack on two guys from Quis/MP/Pavs/Moore/Williams/Hollins and you are up to 4.5-4.6M.  That will allow you to take back as much as ~7.2M in salary.

Depending on the other final roster moves, that should end up with us right within the 70-74M window Danny is aiming at.

Dooling is a decent enough and flexible enough player that getting him on two guaranteed years at ~3M should be palatable.
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Re: So... what do we do for a center?
« Reply #108 on: July 10, 2012, 09:50:49 PM »

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Can someone answer this for me?

Obviously we don't have Wilcox's Bird rights after one year.  However, I thought there was a clause in at least the old CBA that allowed teams to re-sign a player to a certain percent raise over the salary that he had played at the year before. 

So, can we do this with Wilcox or are we limited to only using the minimum or BAE?

We waived him.  So he's not even "our" free agent anymore.  Sadly.

However, since he didn't sign with another team, the Celtics would have his early Bird rights if he signed a one-year minimum contract, so if no one was willing to give him more than that, it could be in his financial best interests to come back to Boston.
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Re: So... what do we do for a center?
« Reply #109 on: July 10, 2012, 09:54:38 PM »

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Can someone answer this for me?

Obviously we don't have Wilcox's Bird rights after one year.  However, I thought there was a clause in at least the old CBA that allowed teams to re-sign a player to a certain percent raise over the salary that he had played at the year before. 

So, can we do this with Wilcox or are we limited to only using the minimum or BAE?

We waived him.  So he's not even "our" free agent anymore.  Sadly.

However, since he didn't sign with another team, the Celtics would have his early Bird rights if he signed a one-year minimum contract, so if no one was willing to give him more than that, it could be in his financial best interests to come back to Boston.

I had not thought of that. Sounds like a plan.