And there's your Jeff Green comp $$
A poor one.
Illyasovas last year of play was much better than greens recent work.
Not sure, if you look at some of Greens numbers pre-trade they were very similar to Ily's recent numbers
No they weren't.
Green Played 10 more mpg and got less rebounds by far and scored only 2 pts less per game. Ilyasova as had a much better TS%
I'm not saying they were exact, but green averaged 15 points and 6 reb a game his most recent time with thunder. All I'm saying is greens contract will likely be very similar
13/9 in 27 MPG (with TS .57ish)
isn't similar to
15/6 in 37 MPG
Convert those to per36 numbers and you get:
17/11.5 TS .577
versus
15/5.1 TS .533
6 rebounds is a LOT, the difference between winning and losing games.
hard to compare players in different systems. jeff green was never going to score as much as he could in OKC because he played with 2 guys who always had the ball in their hands. he also wasn't asked to rebound as much. not saying he couldn't have done better than he did, but this is a case where the stats don't tell us as much as they should. illyasova also played on a horrible team, so i'm not surprised his numbers are higher.
Wait, so you mean if one player has poor stats, it's a legitimate defense for them to say, "well, nobody asked me to do that much"? Man, if only we knew that the secret to getting people the play better was just asking them to play better. We should've just asked Patrick O'Bryant to "do more". That must be the Spurs' secret. (I apologize for the sarcasm, but I just find that argument ridiculous)
Secondly, I don't buy the whole "best player on a terrible team" argument either. By that definition, I guess Lebron was overrated when he was in Cleveland? Hah. If a player is good, they're good, and it doesn't matter what team they're on. If anything, it's more impressive when somebody is the only option on a bad team, and the entire team plans their game around stopping that player but they still manage to come through.
The whole "best player on a bad team" fallacy was propagated by people who only looked at total points per game, without looking at how efficient the player was or how many blocks/rebounds/steals/etc. they got. Yes, anybody can put up a lot of shots on a bad team, but that's not the measure of how good they actually are. I can tell you for an objective fact, for example, that Kyrie Irving is a really good player, and it's not just because he looks good compared to how bad the rest of his team is. Likewise, I can tell you that John Wall is nowhere near as good, despite being on an equally bad team. You just need to look at stats other than total PPG. It's simple, really.
The bottom line is that Ilyasova had a much better year than Jeff Green has ever had in his career, and just got signed for a better price. The only legitimate argument you could make against Ilyasova being the better deal was that he played way above his head last year (if you look at his stats, it actually WAS a huge statistical deviation... I would expect a regression to the mean next year). But even assuming that he plays half as good as he did last year, it will still be better than anything I'd expect out of Green, who has been literally average his entire career.
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