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Sign-And-Trade rules? Can you include other assets?
« on: June 15, 2012, 06:17:32 PM »

Offline LarBrd33

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I just want clarification from someone on how sign-and-trade rules work.  I wasn't sure if anything had changed in the new CBA.   I know it's limited to your own free agents.  So we could sign Brandon Bass (we own his bird rights) to a new contract making 6 mil a year and then immediately trade him for a guy making 6 mil a year on another team, right?

But can include a signed player along with additional assets as part of a trade?  In other words... can you sign Brandon Bass to a contract making 6 mil a year and include him in a package with Paul Pierce (16 mil a year) for a guy making 22 mil a year?  I've been under the impression this was illegal.

While I'm at it... FYI To anyone who is into this kinda stuff:  From what I understand, Ray and Bass are both candidates for a sign-and-trade, but doing a sign-and-trade with Jeff Green or Nenad Krstic isn't possible.  Here's the relevant bit:  "The player must finish the preceding season with that team (deals are no longer allowed that sign-and-trade players who are out of the league, such as the sign-and-trade that sent Keith Van Horn from Dallas to New Jersey as part of the Jason Kidd trade in 2008)." I interpret that to mean that they would have had to be under contract the preceding season... and since Jeff Green had no contract this year and Krstic was stuck over seas without a contract, I don't believe we can sign-and-trade either of them despite the fact that we DO own the bird rights to both players.  Anyone want to clarify that?

Re: Sign-And-Trade rules? Can you include other assets?
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2012, 06:48:45 PM »

Offline goCeltics

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the way i understood it was that yes you can't sign and trade players that weren't on the roster on the end of this season. They would include green, nenad and wilcox.

Last year Orlando got baby davis and von wafer on sign and trade deals in the same deal i think, think they added the wafer deal cos of the base year compensation rules, that is if you trade a player that receives a 20% pay raise over the previous year, the higher of half their current salary or the previous year salary gets counted as the outgoing salary.

So if they traded away bass and he got 6 mill, then only 4.25 mill will count for salary matching purposes as outgoing salary, but the six million will count as incoming salary for the signing team.