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Re: How Celtics can reload in 2013? (insider article)
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2012, 09:07:02 AM »

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this is a terrible idea. mayo would cost way more than he's worth, and while i like landry a lot, i don't think he's worth the money (mostly years) he'd rightfully demand. he's better than bass...but much more costly.

Re: How Celtics can reload in 2013? (insider article)
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2012, 09:07:52 AM »

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Signing O.J. Mayo + Carl Landry = Detroit Pistons' method of rebuilding.

No thanks.


Agreed.


If the Celtics had two stars already in place long term, maybe.


But with just Rondo, the Celtics can not throw away cap space for good role players.

Agreed with you guys.  Maybe if they were one year deals but you know that won't be happening.  I bet we'd overpay to get them and then we'd be throwing away our chances, especially long term.

It'd suck to kind of throw away next year if things don't go well and we are too old... but if we can come away the next year with Josh Smith and James Harden or some other much higher quality free agents, worth it.  Both will demand multi-year deals, so yeah, no thanks.



  Even if we got Mayo I'd probably start Bradley.


I'd say 100% we would.  That's the part of this I was head scratching most on.  I'd bring OJ off the bench in this scenario as a scorer.





I think Jeff Green is a better player than either of them.  So yeah, get him back.
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Re: How Celtics can reload in 2013? (insider article)
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2012, 09:40:40 AM »

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I think Pierce needs the KG tonic. Reduce minutes, get him better match-ups (for KG that was moving to Center) and keep him rested as possible.

To me there best play is running back KG and Allen on one or two year deals, Bass picks up his option, and Green signs for a two year deal.

KG, Bass, Green, Allen, Rondo with Steisma, Wilcox, Pierce, and AB off the bench. If they could improve from Wilcox to a better big man, that'd be ideal - but they need a 4/5.

Of course Bass, Green, KG, and Ray may all end up impossible to re-sign. I think that's their best hope though.

Re: How Celtics can reload in 2013? (insider article)
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2012, 10:36:32 AM »

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Signing O.J. Mayo + Carl Landry = Detroit Pistons' method of rebuilding.

No thanks.

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Re: How Celtics can reload in 2013? (insider article)
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2012, 10:40:36 AM »

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Signing O.J. Mayo + Carl Landry = Detroit Pistons' method of rebuilding.

No thanks.

Cosign.

Agreed.  The moves in this article do not make the Celtics contenders, imo.  Anything less than contending for a title with this group is a failure.
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Re: How Celtics can reload in 2013? (insider article)
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2012, 10:40:43 AM »

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Signing O.J. Mayo + Carl Landry = Detroit Pistons' method of rebuilding.

No thanks.

I love OJ, if he is coming on a Gerald Wallace type "prove it" contract.  Let him come in on a short (and relatively cheap) deal, so he can see if Rondo can help him build value.  

If he is coming for market value (which would be something like 4/$30 for someone of his talent and age), then you are right, it is a terrible move.

And I have no interest in Landry on a longterm deal.  

I hope this guy is right about KG though.  I think 1 year $8 million is WAY low.  But, if they can get him for that, then everything else will be much easier.  

Re: How Celtics can reload in 2013? (insider article)
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2012, 10:42:15 AM »

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Signing O.J. Mayo + Carl Landry = Detroit Pistons' method of rebuilding.

No thanks.

Cosign.

X2..however I like mayo a lot I would not pay him and more than 6-7 mill a year and he'll prob demand twice that so no thanks
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Re: How Celtics can reload in 2013? (insider article)
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2012, 10:48:11 AM »

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Signing O.J. Mayo + Carl Landry = Detroit Pistons' method of rebuilding.

No thanks.

I love OJ, if he is coming on a Gerald Wallace type "prove it" contract.  Let him come in on a short (and relatively cheap) deal, so he can see if Rondo can help him build value.  

If he is coming for market value (which would be something like 4/$30 for someone of his talent and age), then you are right, it is a terrible move.

And I have no interest in Landry on a longterm deal.  

I hope this guy is right about KG though.  I think 1 year $8 million is WAY low.  But, if they can get him for that, then everything else will be much easier.  
I just don't see much to love with him. Since becoming a full time backup combo guard he's shot 40% two straight seasons. If he's not being an offensive difference maker he's a liability. Plus we'd be committed to a really tiny 3 guard rotation. While I trust Rondo/Bradley to do okay on most SGs, Rondo is going to have so much offensive burden that I don't want him beat up doing that too much. (not to mention teams can go big in the backcourt like the Hawks to force matchups without a good counter)

Re: How Celtics can reload in 2013? (insider article)
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2012, 10:50:19 AM »

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Signing O.J. Mayo + Carl Landry = Detroit Pistons' method of rebuilding.

No thanks.
Yeah both of those players are going to be looking at too much money for too many years.

Maybe if we Chloroform their agents and get them to sign one year deals...

Re: How Celtics can reload in 2013? (insider article)
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2012, 11:12:33 AM »

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If Bass is willing to pick up his player option this is how I foresee the off season going.

Resign

Bass 1yr player option
KG 2 yr deal( make him a FA with pierce)
J Green 1-2 year deal
Ray 1 yr deal (if he wants to play he stays, cant see him wanted to up root his family at this point)
Wilcox 1 yr deal (if healthy)
Steimsma 2 yr deal
Pietrus 1 yr
Dooling 1 yr

Then using the draft picks add more youth to go along with AB, JJJ and Moore. I wouldn't be shocked if they try to trade one pick for a young (under 26) vet. This team could really use an athletic scoring 2/3 along with obvious 4/5 depth. Either either position can be filled through this draft it would be a huge plus for the Cs in the future

I expect this to be our roster for 2013, this team will obviously still struggle on the boards and with creating offense in isolation. However as this past season has shown they will be a threat come playoff time. A health Green, AB, and Wilcox give this team above average depth, which will help counter the aging processes effect on the big 3.
 
This is pretty close to how I see it playing out except I think we can do better than Dooling and I'm no longer on the resign Pietrus bandwagon after seeing him play after the injury.  I wouldn't mind trying to upgrade on Wilcox either.  Hoping Moore develops enough over the summer and training camp to be the backup PG with another scoring guard off the bench.  Ideally, Bradley and Moore both develop enough to be good backups at PG when Rondo rests and play SG if they're on the floor with him.

If Bass opts out, I'd like to take a run at Ilyasova if possible as the starting PF but I can't see Milwaukee letting him get away.  Landry's not a bad plan B but I don't think he'll be the long-term solution and wouldn't want to tie up long-term $ on him.

Mayo-->would rather have Ray at this point for 1 year on reasonable $ with a team option on year 2.

To me, the biggest key for Danny is to get HEALTHY BODIES on the team for next year.  the last 4 years we've been undone by injuries.

Re: How Celtics can reload in 2013? (insider article)
« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2012, 08:15:36 PM »

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Signing O.J. Mayo + Carl Landry = Detroit Pistons' method of rebuilding.

No thanks.
Well said, couldn't agree more.

Re: How Celtics can reload in 2013? (insider article)
« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2012, 10:39:35 PM »

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Hold the Mayo. Bradley is a low maintenance combo guard, who might have a higher ceiling anyways.

Not sure on Landry. I've always liked him but I didn't follow him at all this year.
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Re: How Celtics can reload in 2013? (insider article)
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2012, 12:51:38 PM »

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Little interest in Mayo, but I'd fancy Landry on a similar deal to the one he got from NO (1 year $8.5 mil). 

Big offensive upgrade on Bass.

Landry, KG and a defense/rebounding 5 (Dalembert, Camby, amnestied Haywood) and I'd feel very good about our team next year. 
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