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Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #375 on: June 12, 2012, 10:15:24 AM »

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Thanks for the insight sir Roy. I do believe though that Christie and Brown fit this team perfect.

They do not need the ball as much, giving Penny and G-Hill and Ewing to make money on the court. They play tough nosed defense. And could hit open shots when left open.

I just don't think you can survive playing 2 mediocre or worse offensive players in your starting lineup, especially when most teams have 5 elite offensive talents starting.

P.J. Brown averaged 8.5 points and shot 44% in the year you selected.  That's pretty terrible, and those numbers are going to get even worse in this league. 

Doug Christie averaged 10.1 points in the year you selected, and was fairly mediocre at shooting.  He was also 33 years old.  Again, it's fair to say that his numbers are going to decline from there.

Two of your starters are most likely going to combine for around 15 points per game or less.  How can that combo hope to survive in this game?  Those two positions are going to be outscored by substantial margins every single night.


Ewing, Hill and Hardaway would make up for the offense that Christie or Brown would not produce. They're basically there for defense. Christie is the defensive stopper for either the PG or SG that Penny has to defend. The better guard it is, Christie gets him, to keep Penny fresh for his offens attack. Brown does the same thing.

And as bad as they we're statistically, they are threats none the less if you leave open, which keeps defenses honest, opening space for Hill and Penny to work with.

Brown and Christie are multiple time 2nd team all defense. Penny, GHill and Ewing could handle the load offensively. And this team has Rod Strickland, David Lee and Nick Anderson to put some more scoring in case its needed. But for the start of the game, I like having Christie and Brown in the lineup, for defense. Not their scoring abilities, but defense.


Start Smits over Brown. 


Your team defense will not take a hit and your offense will get a boost.  Stop thinking Smits is a defensive weakness.  He was part of a good team defense with the Pacers when the league still had multiple top level centers.

I really wanted to do this. I'm just not sure if Patrick could handle fast, athletic PF's.

A young Ewing can handle most. 

The ones he would have issues with would likely have bigger issues trying to stop him. 


More to the point, is PJ Brown much faster then the younger version of Ewing?

I'm sold. Once again I stand corrected.

Seems like it should not be a problem for a young Ewin to handle PF's. He is listed as Center-Forward after all.
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Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #376 on: June 12, 2012, 10:24:46 AM »

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Ok..so how does this go?

I list my team and then do a basic write-up about them to list their chemistry-strengths-weaknesses etc?

Any certain format that you all are looking for?

Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #377 on: June 12, 2012, 10:25:18 AM »

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Ok..so how does this go?

I list my team and then do a basic write-up about them to list their chemistry-strengths-weaknesses etc?


I think you are free to put in what you want or have time to. 


Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #378 on: June 12, 2012, 10:40:08 AM »

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Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #379 on: June 12, 2012, 11:02:44 AM »

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I would start Larry Johnson or Amare.  Actually, with the SF you have, I would start Larry Johnson at SF (where he played after his injury for NY)


AK and Oakley make better fits around AI.

Thanks, W ... I'll talk to management and see what we can do. I had considered Johnson at starting SF, but liked the chemistry between AK and Kenny. I also like starting Oakley with Deke, (tough frontcourt), but we're flexible ... see what others think, too. ;)
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Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #380 on: June 12, 2012, 11:14:45 AM »

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Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #381 on: June 12, 2012, 11:50:12 AM »

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I would start Larry Johnson or Amare.  Actually, with the SF you have, I would start Larry Johnson at SF (where he played after his injury for NY)


AK and Oakley make better fits around AI.

Thanks, W ... I'll talk to management and see what we can do. I had considered Johnson at starting SF, but liked the chemistry between AK and Kenny. I also like starting Oakley with Deke, (tough frontcourt), but we're flexible ... see what others think, too. ;)
Once you took Iverson and Amare out, you lost a ton of scoring, which will be rough for you.  You need a go to scorer somewhere in your starting lineup.  

Honestly you might be better served moving Iverson back into your starting lineup but with the AK, Oakley, and Deke front line.  Which makes your starting unit a pretty strong defensive unit (iverson can gamble with his steals and still be bailed out) and your second five a high octane kind of offense with Anderson, Martin, Johnson, Amare, and Hibbert.  You could even go small and swap out Hibbert for Harper.  

That said, I think your first unit does work with Anderson instead of Iverson, but I just think it would really struggle to create offense and that would be my hesitation.
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Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #382 on: June 12, 2012, 12:01:45 PM »

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Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #383 on: June 12, 2012, 12:18:11 PM »

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Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #384 on: June 12, 2012, 12:25:22 PM »

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Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #385 on: June 12, 2012, 12:29:03 PM »

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HAMILTON SHOULD BE A STARTER!

Im considering it
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Re: 2012 CB Historical Draft: Rosters Thread
« Reply #386 on: June 12, 2012, 12:32:16 PM »

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Man, it's going to be tough deciding this year.

Preliminarily, here are my top six (in alphabetical order):

Atlanta Hawks
Dallas Mavericks
Memphis Grizzlies
New York Knicks
Orlando Magic
Philadelphia 76ers

For those who aren't listed, let me know why you're better than at least one of the teams listed, and why I should give your team a second look.

For those who are listed, let me know why you're the best of the best.

The difference between 1st and last is probably the smallest we've seen in one of these drafts.


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Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #387 on: June 12, 2012, 12:34:13 PM »

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HAMILTON SHOULD BE A STARTER!

Im considering it

I disagree, I think a healthy Brandon Roy could give more. Better shot creator so he can bail out this team in case someone needs to make a shot (not that this doesnt have a shot creator).
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Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #388 on: June 12, 2012, 12:36:13 PM »

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HAMILTON SHOULD BE A STARTER!

Im considering it

I disagree, I think a healthy Brandon Roy could give more. Better shot creator so he can bail out this team in case someone needs to make a shot (not that this doesnt have a shot creator).

I think his abilities - the ones you listed above - would be better suited for a 6th man role. Elsewise, you're really not coming close to maximizing Tony Parker's skills.

Re: 2012 CB Historical Draft: Rosters Thread
« Reply #389 on: June 12, 2012, 12:38:35 PM »

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Man, it's going to be tough deciding this year.

Preliminarily, here are my top six (in alphabetical order):

Atlanta Hawks
Dallas Mavericks
Memphis Grizzlies
New York Knicks
Orlando Magic
Philadelphia 76ers

For those who aren't listed, let me know why you're better than at least one of the teams listed, and why I should give your team a second look.

For those who are listed, let me know why you're the best of the best.

The difference between 1st and last is probably the smallest we've seen in one of these drafts.

If I can't convince you that a team full of unselfish superstars whose skills compliment each others perfectly is gonna dominate, then I probably can't convince you that the sky is blue either.