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Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #45 on: June 06, 2012, 05:07:55 PM »

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Allright, now that I took shots at everyone else's team...

*GULP*

Vlade Divac / Theo Ratliff
Chris Webber
Shawn Marion / Lamar Odom
Manu Ginobli / Andre Iguodala
Baron Davis / Stephon Marbury

I like that I've got the personnel to play the game a few different ways, and I think offensively while we get a lot of love for getting out in transition, the half court offense would be awfully purty too.

To toot my own horn, I really, really liked the Ratliff pick for me. He might not have as much value to other teams, but I think he really solidified my roster.

Have some concerns about not having that much 'dynamic' scoring, and I think we could struggle against a good 4-5 combo (though, I think thats where the benefit of having a few ways of approaching things could give us a tactical advantage).

 Also think I need to get more of a pure small forward.

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Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #46 on: June 06, 2012, 05:24:15 PM »

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C: Marc Gasol/ Andrew Bogut
PF: Dirk Nowitzki/ Juwan Howard
SF: Reggie Lewis/ James Posey
SG: Vince Carter/ Jamal Mashburn
PG: Chris Paul

First thoughts:  Huge team, but slower than molasses.  Would be fun to watch in a half court set though.
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Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #47 on: June 06, 2012, 05:38:41 PM »

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Thanks again for all the feedback!

I think I can address the SF need - still a few out there.

Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #48 on: June 06, 2012, 05:40:21 PM »

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Allright, now that I took shots at everyone else's team...

*GULP*

Vlade Divac / Theo Ratliff
Chris Webber
Shawn Marion / Lamar Odom
Manu Ginobli / Andre Iguodala
Baron Davis / Stephon Marbury

I like that I've got the personnel to play the game a few different ways, and I think offensively while we get a lot of love for getting out in transition, the half court offense would be awfully purty too.

To toot my own horn, I really, really liked the Ratliff pick for me. He might not have as much value to other teams, but I think he really solidified my roster.

Have some concerns about not having that much 'dynamic' scoring, and I think we could struggle against a good 4-5 combo (though, I think thats where the benefit of having a few ways of approaching things could give us a tactical advantage).

 Also think I need to get more of a pure small forward.



I really like your team, and I think the idea you need more dyanmic scoring is crap.

I picture a nice cross between the early 2000's Kings and the mid 2000's Phoenix Suns.  You're gonna be a team that works great in transition with everybody for the most able to run, and you're gonna be great in the half court with Webber and Divac passing and drawing out the bigs, will be really easy for guys like Baron Davis and Ginobili to penetrate.

Odom is probably the perfect 6th man, although I like him more as a PF, because I feel he can fill in for Weber perfectly and your team doesn't miss a beat.  Like Iggy better at SF too.  And Ratliff is a great backup C, especially in this league, you can bring him and he can block some shots, but won't need the ball and won't complain about minutes.  He's a nice fit on just about any team here.

The only thing I don't like is you have a couple of knuckleheads for point guards. Either can run the team well, and I think Davis is better suited for the starting role, but no way Marbury off the bench would work.

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Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #49 on: June 06, 2012, 05:46:42 PM »

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Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #50 on: June 06, 2012, 05:53:54 PM »

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Allright, now that I took shots at everyone else's team...

*GULP*

Vlade Divac / Theo Ratliff
Chris Webber
Shawn Marion / Lamar Odom
Manu Ginobli / Andre Iguodala
Baron Davis / Stephon Marbury

Some great speed to the hoop 1-3, and established passers to hit the cutters from 4 & %.  I see lots of dunks on the offensive end.  Besides Ratliff not much of a defensive presence (though Marion had his moments).  Would love to watch this team run and gun.
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Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #51 on: June 07, 2012, 08:26:42 AM »

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Tricity Blackhawks  (we are going historical name)


PG  Williams
SG  Ray Allen
SF  Deng
PF  Love
C   Howard

Bench

PG Brandon
SG Petrovic
SF Glen Robinson
PF/C Clifford Robinson (big headband one)
PF/C Aldridge

I concur with Roy - this is the most sound team, really, really like it.. Love the fit all across the board, and I think getting LMA was a huge pickup for the team because it gives you another look without having to sacrifice chemistry.

My only concern here would be crunch time / go to scoring. You'll have to lean on Ray-Ray pretty heavily, and against a great defensive 2 you could have some trouble..  


I am not worried about the crunch time / go to scoring.  I am loaded with all-star players that have averaged 20 points a game.  The team is just going to run the play and trust the ball will end up in the hands of the open guy. 

Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #52 on: June 07, 2012, 08:30:40 AM »

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Tricity Blackhawks  (we are going historical name)


PG  Williams
SG  Ray Allen
SF  Deng
PF  Love
C   Howard

Bench

PG Brandon
SG Petrovic
SF Glen Robinson
PF/C Clifford Robinson (big headband one)
PF/C Aldridge

I just worry that this team isn't big enough up front to go deep into the historical playoffs.


To small?

Howard  6'11, 265
Love  6'10, 260
Aldridge 6'11, 240
Robinson 6'10, 225



Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #53 on: June 07, 2012, 08:32:18 AM »

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Memphis Grizzlies

PG- Kevin Johnson/Mookie Blaylock
SG- Jeff Hornacek/Steve Kerr
SF- Bruce Bowen/Xavier McDaniel
PF- Pau Gasol/Al Horford
C-  David Robinson

I think I have a nice combination of shooting, rebounding, passing, and defense.  I was really going for chemistry/fit and I think these guys would work pretty well together.


 I like this team.  Need a better (more rounded) backup SG and probably a more athletic PF to run off the bench.

Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #54 on: June 07, 2012, 08:34:00 AM »

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NY Knicks

C: Tim Duncan
PF: Ben Wallace
SF: Ron Artest/Detlef Schrempf
SG: Brandon Roy/ Rip Hamilton
PG: Tony Parker/Steph Curry

Got 3 picks tomorrow to round out my rotation.  Really liking the way my team is shaping up.  I knew from the begining that I wanted Artest because his DPOY season was truly exceptional, but in order to make him work I needed the rest of the team to be likeable and have strong leadership and I think I have accomplished that.  


This team really needs a good big man with a respectable jumpshot.  (or a C)


In this game, I think Wallace is better served as a specialist off the bench then a starter. 

Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #55 on: June 07, 2012, 08:37:08 AM »

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Tricity Blackhawks  (we are going historical name)


PG  Williams
SG  Ray Allen
SF  Deng
PF  Love
C   Howard

Bench

PG Brandon
SG Petrovic
SF Glen Robinson
PF/C Clifford Robinson (big headband one)
PF/C Aldridge

I think its a pretty good team, but I also think that Howard's defensive dominance will be mitigated somewhat by the large quantity of plus defenders at the 5, and plus offensive centers.

Howard has had to play against what..2,3 legitimate rivals in his career? Bynum, and..Perkins? I dunno. Also, a lot of centers now haven't had solid staying power.

So the dominance that Howard shows against the Joakim Noah's and Channing Frye's of the NBA isn't going to stick against the Ewings or even Daughertys of years past.

And without Howard's dominance, I think you run the risk of getting beat on defense more than you would if it were just current day players, youknow?

I have no doubt that Howard will hold up against these other C.  Can't blame him that the traditional C is so weak. 


On the other end, how many of those C had to defend against someone as big and athletic as Howard?  The Dream perhaps, but that's it. 

Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #56 on: June 07, 2012, 08:39:17 AM »

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Not quite sure of the years yet, but these are probably my first choices.

Indiana Pacers

PG: Rajon Rondo (09/10 - 13.7 ppg, 9.8 apg, 2.3 spg, 51% fg) All-star, all defensive 1st team

SG: Reggie Miller (89/90- 24.6 ppg, 52% fg, 41% 3's) All-star

SF: Gerald Wallace (09/10- 18.2 ppg, 10 rpg, 48% fg, 37% 3's) All-star, all defensive 1st team

PF: LeBron James (11/12- 27.1 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 6.2 apg, 53% fg, 36% 3's.)
All-star, all NBA 1st team, all defensive 1st team, MVP

C: Tyson Chandler (11/12- 11.3 ppg, 9.9 rpg, 68% fg (WHAT!?!))
Defensive Player of the Year, all defensive 2nd team (also, WHAT!?!)

Bench:

Rashard Lewis (08/09- 17.7 ppg, 40% 3's) All-Star
Raja Bell (05/06- 14.7 ppg, 41% 3's) All-defensive 1st team
Jason Terry (06/07- 16.7 ppg, 5.2 apg, 48% fg, 44% 3's)
Al Jefferson (07/08- 21.0 ppg, 11.1rpg, 50% fg)  

The offense can be run through Rajon Rondo, and LeBron James can control the ball when he sits. My starting line-up with the exception of Reggie are all unbelievable defensive players, and at the end of games I can put in Raja Bell for defensive purposes. Off the bench, I have some much needed shooting/scoring with three guys that shoot it over 40% and can play multiple positions. Al Jeff is a great big man that can provide some much needed post scoring. I think I'm pretty well-rounded. I don't think a true back-up point is necessary when LeBron can run the offense. The only thing I probably need right now is another defensive big man, but other than that I like how these pieces fit together.


I would start Lewis at PF and move James to SF.  You need the shooting with Rondo and Chandler. 


Will Rondo be effective enough starting when Lebron is at his best running the offense?

Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #57 on: June 07, 2012, 08:43:13 AM »

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Celtics

C: Marc Gasol/ Andrew Bogut
PF: Dirk Nowitzki/ Juwan Howard
SF: Reggie Lewis/ James Posey
SG: Vince Carter/ Jamal Mashburn
PG: Chris Paul


Lewis is a SG. 


I am not sure what it is, but there is something about this team that make me think it is not very strong.

Probably the Vince Carter effect and that I am not huge Gasol fan.

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« Reply #58 on: June 07, 2012, 08:46:11 AM »

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Allright, now that I took shots at everyone else's team...

*GULP*

Vlade Divac / Theo Ratliff
Chris Webber
Shawn Marion / Lamar Odom
Manu Ginobli / Andre Iguodala
Baron Davis / Stephon Marbury

I like that I've got the personnel to play the game a few different ways, and I think offensively while we get a lot of love for getting out in transition, the half court offense would be awfully purty too.

To toot my own horn, I really, really liked the Ratliff pick for me. He might not have as much value to other teams, but I think he really solidified my roster.

Have some concerns about not having that much 'dynamic' scoring, and I think we could struggle against a good 4-5 combo (though, I think thats where the benefit of having a few ways of approaching things could give us a tactical advantage).

 Also think I need to get more of a pure small forward.




The only guy I trust in the clutch is Manu. 


Marbury off the bench is a negative for your team chemistry.

Re: How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)
« Reply #59 on: June 07, 2012, 08:48:04 AM »

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I like this team.  It needs a big wall to come off the bench.  Camby should be strictly weakside defense.