Please Don't Ever Say Again Rondo Doesn't Turn it On and Off

[Celtics18]

If everyone on here is just going to keep pretending there isn't a difference between effort and results then we're all wasting our time. Results are hoped for from him. Effort should be required. Tonight he gave other-worldy effort. He happened to also have results with that. I'm pleased with the effort just as much as the results. If I were in his shoes I'd never want to have my effort and aggressiveness questioned. Just saying.

His effort has been there all playoffs long.  That's the problem with your post.  It's not that we are excusing poor effort.  It's that he hasn't given poor efforts.  There's nothing to excuse.

Some people are apparently always going to question his effort.  He can't control that.  All he can do is go out there and give it, which is exactly what he has been doing.

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I agree 100%.  Rondo's effort and play have been very consistant throughout the playoffs.  Please for one night stop the Rondo bashing.

If everyone on here is just going to keep pretending there isn't a difference between effort and results then we're all wasting our time. Results are hoped for from him. Effort should be required. Tonight he gave other-worldy effort. He happened to also have results with that. I'm pleased with the effort just as much as the results. If I were in his shoes I'd never want to have my effort and aggressiveness questioned. Just saying.

His effort has been there all playoffs long.  That's the problem with your post.  It's not that we are excusing poor effort.  It's that he hasn't given poor efforts.  There's nothing to excuse.

Some people are apparently always going to question his effort.  He can't control that.  All he can do is go out there and give it, which is exactly what he has been doing.

[LarBrd33]

No doubt.  Rondo has games where he is undeniably more aggressive.  Dunno if it's because he's a headcase or simply can't go that hard every night.

[EJPLAYA]

Hear what you want to hear. If you aren't willing to acknowledge the difference in Rondo's effort between games one and two then so be it. Ignore the fact it wasn't just me saying it, but many of the media. We are clearly all insane. It has been his label for most of his career, but whatever. See what you want to see. Go ahead and label me a hater as well even though I heaped huge praise on him for this game. Go ahead and accept less than their full effort if you like, but that isn't Celtic basketball IMO. You don't have to win. You don't have to have results. You just have to leave it ALL out there. Tonight he did just that.

[Celtics18]

No doubt.  Rondo has games where he is undeniably more aggressive.  Dunno if it's because he's a headcase or simply can't go that hard every night.

He may be a head case, but I think he has proven over and over again that he is one of the toughest, most competitive, and smartest players in the league.  

The guy is really, really good and he saves his most transcendent performances for when the stakes are highest.  I guess in some people's eyes that just makes him inconsistent.  

I'll take him as our head case any day of the week.  

All I can say at this point is, fight through it, Rajon.  Trust me, some day Celtics fans will come to appreciate you and realize what a special talent you are.  Taking the lumps from the "fans" and the media is a part of growing up as an NBA superstar.  

[Celtics18]

Hear what you want to hear. If you aren't willing to acknowledge the difference in Rondo's effort between games one and two then so be it. Ignore the fact it wasn't just me saying it, but many of the media. We are clearly all insane. It has been his label for most of his career, but whatever. See what you want to see. Go ahead and label me a hater as well even though I heaped huge praise on him for this game. Go ahead and accept less than their full effort if you like, but that isn't Celtic basketball IMO. You don't have to win. You don't have to have results. You just have to leave it ALL out there. Tonight he did just that.

Really?  "Many of the media" said it, too.  That's your best argument?  I'd like to hear the quotes of the media members who said he wasn't giving full effort.  I heard a lot of them saying that he needs to be more aggressive which we all know is just code for he didn't play all that well, but I didn't hear anyone questioning his effort.  

And, also, who really cares what "members of the media" said.  There's so much media out there that
someone is bound to say almost anything.

Heck, you're a member of the "media."  You post your thoughts and opinions on a public forum.

"Well, as EJPLAYA of the fan site CelticsBlog says; 'Rajon Rondo didn't give his full effort in game one of the Eastern Conference Finals'"

There it is.  That proves it. 

[j804]

Hear what you want to hear. If you aren't willing to acknowledge the difference in Rondo's effort between games one and two then so be it. Ignore the fact it wasn't just me saying it, but many of the media. We are clearly all insane. It has been his label for most of his career, but whatever. See what you want to see. Go ahead and label me a hater as well even though I heaped huge praise on him for this game. Go ahead and accept less than their full effort if you like, but that isn't Celtic basketball IMO. You don't have to win. You don't have to have results. You just have to leave it ALL out there. Tonight he did just that.

Really?  "Many of the media" said it, too.  That's your best argument?  I'd like to hear the quotes of the media members who said he wasn't giving full effort.  I heard a lot of them saying that he needs to be more aggressive which we all know is just code for he didn't play all that well, but I didn't hear anyone questioning his effort. 

Why even bother arguing this guy is a Rondo hater

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Can you name 1 person in the Media who said that Rondo's 'effort' was lacking in game 1?  And I mean a direct quote that the effort was lacking.  I doubt you can.  Because the effort was there.

Hear what you want to hear. If you aren't willing to acknowledge the difference in Rondo's effort between games one and two then so be it. Ignore the fact it wasn't just me saying it, but many of the media. We are clearly all insane. It has been his label for most of his career, but whatever. See what you want to see. Go ahead and label me a hater as well even though I heaped huge praise on him for this game. Go ahead and accept less than their full effort if you like, but that isn't Celtic basketball IMO. You don't have to win. You don't have to have results. You just have to leave it ALL out there. Tonight he did just that.

[BballTim]

Hear what you want to hear. If you aren't willing to acknowledge the difference in Rondo's effort between games one and two then so be it. Ignore the fact it wasn't just me saying it, but many of the media. We are clearly all insane. It has been his label for most of his career, but whatever. See what you want to see. Go ahead and label me a hater as well even though I heaped huge praise on him for this game. Go ahead and accept less than their full effort if you like, but that isn't Celtic basketball IMO. You don't have to win. You don't have to have results. You just have to leave it ALL out there. Tonight he did just that.

  No, tell us how many shots at the rim you expect from the typical point guard if you consider 13 to be "rarely going to the rim". Or maybe you could explain how a 6'1 point guard grabs 9 rebounds in a game where he isn't putting in any effort. You talk about effort and results, but the effort was there and easy to see in game 1.

[BballTim]

No doubt.  Rondo has games where he is undeniably more aggressive.  Dunno if it's because he's a headcase or simply can't go that hard every night.

  So, do you think that players like LeBron, CP3 and Deron are all head cases, or are you unable to see that they're more aggressive in some games than in others? Chris Paul has the occasional super game. Where's his effort the other 95% of the time?

[D.o.s.]

No doubt.  Rondo has games where he is undeniably more aggressive.  Dunno if it's because he's a headcase or simply can't go that hard every night.

  So, do you think that players like LeBron, CP3 and Deron are all head cases, or are you unable to see that they're more aggressive in some games than in others? Chris Paul has the occasional super game. Where's his effort the other 95% of the time?

You've hit the nail on the head. Players have good nights and bad nights, just like everyone else. It's not really a question of effort so much as it is a matter of results.

I wouldn't be surprised if we just watched the best individual basketball game Rondo will ever play. We're one stupid technical foul call on KG from winning it in regulation, and the dude stepped up and hit back to back threes to keep it competitive until the very last seconds. Oh, and he also played the entire game.

And by played the entire game, I mean he carried us limping and bruised up and down the court for the entire, Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ing game.

Compared to that, yeah, I guess he coasted a bit last game (and I'll go on the record saying that his stat line looks way better than his game actually was).

Can't we just bask in the fact that we just witnessed the definitive PG performance of the Eastern Conference playoffs?

[kenmaine]

I KNEW it.
Someone here would turn Rondo's game last night into a negative.
Unbelievable-  this kind of ridiculous thread is why I almost never come to cblog anymore.

[2short]

I'm sorry, but this thread is just dumb.

I can't think of a response sarcastic enough so I've decided to just be honest and say it plainly.

All time great performances don't just happen because you try really hard.

yes, this.

I'll third this motion

I do think that some people  on this blog would find faults with birds game, cousys, cowens and russell.  This man, Rajon Rondo is on his way to being the best point guard EVER to play for the Boston Celtics.

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I've been a Celtics fan since 1965.

Rajon Rondo's performance last night was comparable to Bird's effort in game 5 of the 1984 finals and Pierce in game 7 vs the Cavs in 2008.  I'm sure Bill Russell had similar type games but I didn't have the pleasure of seeing those games.

I'm appalled that anyone would question Rondo's effort or heart.  If Lebron had the heart of Rondo he would win 8 straight championships and that is no disrespect to Lebron because this is such a rare trait. Among those players I would put in this unique category are Russell, Bird, Cowens, Magic, MJ and Dennis Johnson.

Rondo proved to me last night, once and for all, that he will do whatever it takes to win an important game. Like Dennis Johnson, he is at his best when it counts the most and I'll take that any day. 

[Celtics4ever]

Trade the bum, he should have had 50!   JK

This is silly.  We can build around this kid.   He isn't as flawed as some like to pretend.