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The problem with Rondo yesterday and maybe for his career
« on: May 29, 2012, 10:27:36 AM »

Offline rayallen1934

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I know everyone knows this, and i know its been the #1 problem for him, but for some reason people keep excusing it and throwing it to the wayside but the problem with Rondo's game and THIS team is his inability and refusal to shoot a jumper.

How many times yesterday would I see Rondo just dribble looking for Pierce or Ray while being WIDE OPEN for a jumper!!!!!!

Then he would continue to give it to Bass for some odd reason when bass was not even wide open, then bass would pass it right back.

This guy needs to get a jumper real fast. He has shown signs he can shoot the ball but he has to learn that he HAS TO DO the actual shooting to start making it.

Its games like yesterday where I would have loved a Steve Nash, somebody that they would be unable to leave open.

I love Rondo and im not blaming him for the loss. I just would like him to really add this jumper to his game because its going to hinder this team in the future.

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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2012, 10:33:58 AM »

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I know everyone knows this, and i know its been the #1 problem for him, but for some reason people keep excusing it and throwing it to the wayside but the problem with Rondo's game and THIS team is his inability and refusal to shoot a jumper.

How many times yesterday would I see Rondo just dribble looking for Pierce or Ray while being WIDE OPEN for a jumper!!!!!!

Then he would continue to give it to Bass for some odd reason when bass was not even wide open, then bass would pass it right back.

This guy needs to get a jumper real fast. He has shown signs he can shoot the ball but he has to learn that he HAS TO DO the actual shooting to start making it.

Its games like yesterday where I would have loved a Steve Nash, somebody that they would be unable to leave open.

I love Rondo and im not blaming him for the loss. I just would like him to really add this jumper to his game because its going to hinder this team in the future.
I agree.  He's become a good midrange shooter this year and he is still left open by teams that, for whatever reason, don't recognize this.  I hope the Heat take this same approach in game 2 and Rondo takes advantage of it.

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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2012, 10:48:54 AM »

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At times everybody on the team looks hesitant to shoot the open jumper. But if they arent planning on guarding Rondo Id like to see him take that shot. he cant be any worse shooting than Ray.

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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2012, 10:59:20 AM »

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It always looks to me that when Rondo looks to pass first and then has to take a shot, that's when he seems to miss. It's like he is conflicted in what he wants to do. And when he still happens to have the ball with less than 5 seconds left and ends up having to shoot the ball, that is when he seems to miss too.

Rondo shoots well when he shoots it with conviction. When he steps up, squares up and looks not at all to pass. When he becomes a shooter and not a conflicted passer, he steps up and shoots the open jump shot. It's maddening at times because it seems like he'd much rather pass than shoot the ball. But when he decided "I'm gonna shoot this ball" it appears to me that his percentages go up. I think that is why he has shot better at times this year and I wish he would think like a shooter more because he would be thought of as much if not better than a Chris Paul if he just developed a shooter's mentality along with superb passing game.
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I saw him take a few jumpers, miss badly, and seemingly decide that this was the wrong night to try to force himself to score on jump shots.
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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2012, 12:43:15 PM »

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Call me crazy, but I'd like to see Ray Allen and Brandon Bass make a few more of the open jump shots that they are getting.  I mean, heck, those guys are the shooters.  Should Rondo be doing everybody's job?

I can't believe he's not clogging the lane and blocking more shots, either. 
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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2012, 12:47:43 PM »

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I felt the same way about not taking the jumpers.

When his guy is in the lane, he needs to come in closer and make himself available for 17 foot catch and shoot. There is so much open court between him and defenders when he is on the weak side.

The defense can cheat because Rondo gives them plenty of time to recover. If they pass it to Rondo beyond 3, the Heat are fine with him shooting it. If he tries to penetrate, they are already clogging the lane. And if he dribble in and shoots, that is a lower percentage shot than a catch and shoot from the same spot (and they can close out on him to make it tougher).

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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2012, 04:29:10 PM »

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Totally I agree, this is a big problem for Rondo, he has to improve his shot.

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Rondo's shot is fine, he just has to realize everyone other than KG is a brick waiting to happen, and pull the trigger.

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Maybe, just maybe, Rondo has decided that he wants to leave the NBA as the greatest assist leader that ever lived and he has that as his main goal. He does look for an assist as his 1st, 2nd, and 3rd option. If he can score as easy as he can have an assist, he will take that assist. Thats fine and dandy to get everybody involved; thats what a point guard supposed to do, BUT, when he tries  getting an assist more importsnt than making a bsaket or two, and the team suffers because of it, you wonder why is he doing it. In mho, I believe he wants to leave his mark as the best assist leader in the game. He really has nothing else to motivate him. If Im wrong, then why are so many fans worried about his alleged poor judgment in not trying to score when he doesnt have uch a bad jumpshot after all? Food for thought.
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I normally try not to chime in on the Rondo threads because i think they tend to be too reactionary...

But the one thing i will say, specifically about his jumper, is i don't understand his follow-thru.  I don't get why he fades backwards on his jumpers.  He needs to get to a sweet spot and attack the rim on a jump shot just like he would on a layup.  None of his movements should take him away from the basket on those mid-range shots. Drives me bananas. 

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Sometimes he does give up the open jumper but this isn't really something I have too much of an issue with regarding his game.  I would like to see him take it more, however.  I'm not sure if its a confidence thing or he thinks he can set up something better.

Its the nights where he seems to back off and plays a passive brand of basketball.  He might still fill the stat sheet but his presence isn't really felt heavily in the game.  It's frustrating because we've obviously seen what happens when Rondo is on and how he affects a basketball game.  The Rondo from Game 5 of the Philly series was a thing of beauty and we really could use a couple of those performances in the ECF. 


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Rondo is a great pass first point guard. But I drool with envy when I watch how easily guys like Parker or Westbroook score. I know Rondo is a different kind of player, but if he just had a little bit more of a scorer's instinct he would be the best.

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I don't agree. I think Rondo biggest problem is constancy. Rondo is one of the very few guys in the history od the game who can control the game and be the best player without scoring.
Being able to control the pace of the game is his biggest strenth and if he was consistent with his games he could be a top 5 player in the league. I would be satisfied with 14ppg from rondo nothing more. But 14asist also couple of steals 5-6rebs and controling the pace of the game. That is best Rondo we can have and with consistent rondo we can build around him

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Rondo is a great pass first point guard. But I drool with envy when I watch how easily guys like Parker or Westbroook score. I know Rondo is a different kind of player, but if he just had a little bit more of a scorer's instinct he would be the best.

I love watching Tony Parker play, but I can't stand Russell Westbrook.  He's a great player.  I won't deny that, but his gunner's mentality is just so painful for me to watch.  

I don't even really think that Westbrook is a better outside shooter than Rondo.  He just keeps jacking them up so much that eventually he's bound to get some to go in.

Obviously, the style of play that they have out there in OKC with Westbrook and Durant taking any and every shot has been effective, but I would never want to see a Celtics team play that way.  

I'd like to add that while OKC's style has been successfully, it remains to be seen if they can win it all playing that way.  I wonder if the Thunder would be a better team with Rajon Rondo running the show as a true point guard.  
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