Bradley Makes Shuhmann's "All-Star" Team

[wiley]

He can guard bigger twos just fine.  He's done a nice job on Wade, and he completely controlled Paul George.  Henderson and Hayward may have put up some decent numbers, but they by no means scored easily against Avery.  

Wade is a small SG himself, people keep citing Wade as someone who shows that Bradley can defend big SGs for some reason.

I think its very much an open question whether Bradley can handle big SGs. So far when playing against big SGs there have been more nights where they've shot well than not. Whether or not that's just normal variations or an issue remains to be seen in my view.

We might keep in mind that although taller SG's may shoot over him at times, they'd surely get their points anyway if playing a less talented, but taller defender.  Mainly by getting open more than they will against Avery....

[Celtics18]

He can guard bigger twos just fine.  He's done a nice job on Wade, and he completely controlled Paul George.  Henderson and Hayward may have put up some decent numbers, but they by no means scored easily against Avery.  

Wade is a small SG himself, people keep citing Wade as someone who shows that Bradley can defend big SGs for some reason.

I think its very much an open question whether Bradley can handle big SGs. So far when playing against big SGs there have been more nights where they've shot well than not. Whether or not that's just normal variations or an issue remains to be seen in my view.

Wade's 6'4" stature, I guess, make him relatively on the short end for a shooting guard, but there is no way in the world you can call that guy small.  His strength and athleticism make him a very big two guard. 

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We could be witnessing the birth of an incredible tandem for the future Celtics, as the chemisrty between the two is already developing in front of us.

Very cool to watch.


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I had hoped for a bit that 2 years from now if bradley could get it together he'd be a combo guard off the bench and at times the celtics could do a backcourt of he & rondo.  Their defense together and running/communication is good and only going to get better.  No knock on ray at all (love him) but rondo & bradley backcourt next year could be one of the best in nba

[Fafnir]

He can guard bigger twos just fine.  He's done a nice job on Wade, and he completely controlled Paul George.  Henderson and Hayward may have put up some decent numbers, but they by no means scored easily against Avery.  

Wade is a small SG himself, people keep citing Wade as someone who shows that Bradley can defend big SGs for some reason.

I think its very much an open question whether Bradley can handle big SGs. So far when playing against big SGs there have been more nights where they've shot well than not. Whether or not that's just normal variations or an issue remains to be seen in my view.

Wade's 6'4" stature, I guess, make him relatively on the short end for a shooting guard, but there is no way in the world you can call that guy small.  His strength and athleticism make him a very big two guard. 

He's a small 2 guard he cant shoot over the top of Bradley the same way bigger guys like Hatward or Jackson can. The fact that he's strong and quick does make him tall.

[Fafnir]

He can guard bigger twos just fine.  He's done a nice job on Wade, and he completely controlled Paul George.  Henderson and Hayward may have put up some decent numbers, but they by no means scored easily against Avery.  

Wade is a small SG himself, people keep citing Wade as someone who shows that Bradley can defend big SGs for some reason.

I think its very much an open question whether Bradley can handle big SGs. So far when playing against big SGs there have been more nights where they've shot well than not. Whether or not that's just normal variations or an issue remains to be seen in my view.

We might keep in mind that although taller SG's may shoot over him at times, they'd surely get their points anyway if playing a less talented, but taller defender.  Mainly by getting open more than they will against Avery....

Not necessarily, in spot up help rotation situations a taller but less athletic guy can have greater ability to close outer just flat out contest a shot.

Paul post up small but excellent defensive PGs all the time this way at the top of the key. It's why KG's
Ick and pop shot is so hard to bother.

[Celtics18]

He can guard bigger twos just fine.  He's done a nice job on Wade, and he completely controlled Paul George.  Henderson and Hayward may have put up some decent numbers, but they by no means scored easily against Avery.  

Wade is a small SG himself, people keep citing Wade as someone who shows that Bradley can defend big SGs for some reason.

I think its very much an open question whether Bradley can handle big SGs. So far when playing against big SGs there have been more nights where they've shot well than not. Whether or not that's just normal variations or an issue remains to be seen in my view.

We might keep in mind that although taller SG's may shoot over him at times, they'd surely get their points anyway if playing a less talented, but taller defender.  Mainly by getting open more than they will against Avery....

Not necessarily, in spot up help rotation situations a taller but less athletic guy can have greater ability to close outer just flat out contest a shot.

Paul post up small but excellent defensive PGs all the time this way at the top of the key. It's why KG's
Ick and pop shot is so hard to bother.

I don't think you'll find many better close out guys than Avery Bradley regardless of height.  A big part of that is his refusal to give up on a play.  He'll make a legitimate attempt to get out and bother a three point shooter regardless of how far off him he is. 

I don't know if they give stats for how often a long range shooter seemingly gets the ball wide open and changes his mind because Avery Bradley's rushing at him. 

I'm not saying that his lack of height is an advantage, but so far, to me, at least, he's shown that he can be a quality two guard despite being 6'2".   6'6" shooting guards generally give up quite a bit in speed and athleticism to Avery Bradley.  They try to utilize their height, he tries to utilize his quickness, athleticism, and toughness.  I like Avery's chances in most of those match ups.

[jdz101]

I love the team, that Schuhmann has collected:

Beno Udrih
Avery Bradley
Matt Bonner
Taj Gibson
Ekpe Udoh

Honorable Mentions: Tony Allen (who scores too much to make the team!), Omer Asik, Landry Fields, Kevin Seraphin and Anthony Tolliver.

Every one of them is the kind of player, that you love having on your team.

I wouldn't want Landry fields personally. I find every time I watch him this year he makes boneheaded plays, takes poor shots, and turns the ball over...the other guys I like. You would only really have one of those types on your team though.

Just as an aside. I like Bradley as an overall player and complete player over the others aswell.

Totally agree about Bradley, (TP - I like Fields, though, despite the fact he makes some immature mistakes, as you said).

It's awesome to see him come into his own much the way Rondo did, first with the tentative play, then shaking that off with growing confidence and slowly shedding the doubters.

I think we've just scratched the surface of what Avery can become, (if he remains healthy), and he's in the perfect situation to grow as a player and a young man of character and self-discipline.

So many parallels to Rondo's early career, and I hope he stays in green in the long-term.

We could be witnessing the birth of an incredible tandem for the future Celtics, as the chemisrty between the two is already developing in front of us.

Very cool to watch.

Exactly (TP). The fact that bradley is so young and has not had a proper pre-season yet, is scary to be honest. People that predict his ceiling now could be doing him an injustice.

From this year we have seen Avery:

1. Is extremely fast & athletic

2. Can finish around the rim

3. Can shoot jumpshots from mid range and from the 3 point line

4. Can be a seriously good defender at both guard spots

I would counter this, by saying...

1...Bradley has hit 3 pointers well in his last 2 or 3 games. Prior to that ( all of this year and last), he was absolutely horrible from distance. Saying he's a capable shooter after having a few good games is a reach.

2....He can finish at the rim when he's open, but he hasn't been able to finish well with contact, and he gets blocked  A TON. In my opinion, great finishers don't get blocked often...because that's not finishing.

3....He is a great on thr ball defender against smaller players, but he has not shown the ability to be an elite defender against bigger SGs. Gordon Hayward, Gerald Henderson, and others have shown his size to be a disadvantage.

Bradley's been playing great recently, and may become a better player than I think he's capable of being, but he could also be the same scrub everyone said he was at the start of the year, who has had a couple good months. Realistically, I think he's an average player that's in a great situation.

You can see avery is a capable shooter from his form, his willingness to take the shot and his consistency in making the shot in a starting role.

Also for pretty much a first year player Avery has had some MONSTROUS finishes at the rim in traffic this year. I would rather he keep driving and attempting to slam it home/draw fouls than have the fear of getting blocked like other guards do. He will get better at it in time.