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Re: Heat team meeting
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2012, 12:40:59 PM »

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aye all I'm sayin is this little cop out excuse for a team dat hasnt won a title "they're bored wit the regular season, nd just waiting for the playoffs to start" is garbage. They wanted the past 2 games BADLY spo doesnt even have a set rotation yet it's ridiculous to pencil them into the finals like they gon bulldoze their way thru the east

Re: Heat team meeting
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2012, 01:08:57 PM »

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There's some things you can fault a coach, but the players' performances usually dictates who plays.

Spo is still a relatively young head coach, if he were a veteran coach he probably would have stuck with the same lineup, but who knows?

I think when you're struggling, you need to make some changes to see what can work and what can't. If you stay the negative course you won't get better.

Re: Heat team meeting
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2012, 01:37:12 PM »

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Oh ...WADE couldn't win squat with out Shaq....they couldn't get out of the first round.

LBJ was closer to a "REAL" team with the Cavs .  At least the Cavs played NBA basketball and not street ball.



True, but in their championship season, he almost single-handedly won the finals series. You can't overlook that.
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Re: Heat team meeting
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2012, 02:35:31 PM »

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I think the heat are still a dangerous team.  As much as I would like to think that those last two wins against the Heat mean a lot, I know that they (heat) will play better in the playoffs.

It was good to see we could give them a good butt kicking, and we are playing well right now, but I wouldn't make more of it than that.

I always see two big issues with the heat.  One is that they don't really play like a team (obvious I know).  For the heat to win the title they are going to need to trust guys other than d wade and lebron.  I just don't see that happening on their team.

The other thing is that I just don't know if the Heat have the mental toughness to win a championship yet.  They don't have that mental edge that championship teams have  (celtics, spurs, lakers...).


There's some things you can fault a coach, but the players' performances usually dictates who plays.

Spo is still a relatively young head coach, if he were a veteran coach he probably would have stuck with the same lineup, but who knows?

I think when you're struggling, you need to make some changes to see what can work and what can't. If you stay the negative course you won't get better.

Re: Heat team meeting
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2012, 02:44:20 PM »

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Cmon...the last 2 games were important for the heat in regards to seeding and they lost...to teams that played better than them...lebron played out of his mind in those 2 games and they still lost

They gotto the finals last year because out of nowhere lebron and wade started hitting fadeaway 3s in peoples faces....they came back to earth in the finals.

The heat are not any better than last years team...oon theother handi think both the bulls and celtics are better equipped to matchup with them

Re: Heat team meeting
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2012, 02:50:04 PM »

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Cmon...the last 2 games were important for the heat in regards to seeding and they lost...to teams that played better than them...lebron played out of his mind in those 2 games and they still lost

They gotto the finals last year because out of nowhere lebron and wade started hitting fadeaway 3s in peoples faces....they came back to earth in the finals.

The heat are not any better than last years team...oon theother handi think both the bulls and celtics are better equipped to matchup with them

Which is why the 2 seed is best for Miami - Chicago will be the 1 and Boston the 4. The Heat don't have to beat both those teams to make the Finals, just one. I have a hard time seeing Indiana give the same challenge because they don't have the ball movement of Chicago and Boston which is the real kryptonite to Miami's dangerously athletic but undisciplined defense.
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Re: Heat team meeting
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2012, 02:50:54 PM »

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I absolutely agree they were important for the seeding and confidence level of the teams involved.

I just feel that the heat are going to step it up in the playoffs versus the last few games.  That doesn't mean we can't beat them in the playoffs.  I actually think we have a good shot.

But i feel everyone is overreacting to the last few games with the heat.  They are still a very tough matchup, and we are still going to need to play our best to beat them if we see them in the playoffs.

Cmon...the last 2 games were important for the heat in regards to seeding and they lost...to teams that played better than them...lebron played out of his mind in those 2 games and they still lost

They gotto the finals last year because out of nowhere lebron and wade started hitting fadeaway 3s in peoples faces....they came back to earth in the finals.

The heat are not any better than last years team...oon theother handi think both the bulls and celtics are better equipped to matchup with them

Re: Heat team meeting
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2012, 03:53:32 PM »

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I found this article illuminating.

http://www.nesn.com/2012/04/lebron-james-latest-disappearing-act-defeated-comments-making-him-harder-to-defend.html

Who cares it is the Heat and I hope they fail miserably although I hope it is us who beats them.

Re: Heat team meeting
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2012, 04:16:52 PM »

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The Heat have two problems.

One is that Riley has fallen in love with the idea of playing without a real center or real point guard, just five relatively interchangeable guys on the court.  The theory is that it perfectly spaces the court and creates at least 2 or 3 match up problems for the other team.  The reality is that it produces a terrible halfcourt offense and leaves the Heat vulnerable to their own match up problems.

Two is that Bron, Wade and Bosh have approached this thing almost the exact opposite of KG, Paul and Ray.  When Ainge put his New Big 3 together, they knew this was the last, best chance any of them were going to have to win a title but that a chance is all it was.  They were going to have to go out and make it happen.  But from the very moment Riley put his Not Yet Big 3 together, there has been an assumption by them and most everybody else that winning the championship was inevitable.  That there's basically no way they couldn't get it done.  It did give the Heat a lot of confidence but it also left them incapable of recognizing the flaws in their roster and sucked the killer instinct out them as a group.

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Re: Heat team meeting
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2012, 05:16:40 PM »

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I just want to say... regular season does mean something, it's just not everything! If you look closer at the regular season series wins by both Chi and Boston, you can easily see what the difference was in the playoffs. For Chi, well it wasn't like they were blowing Mia out in their wins during the regular season, those games were close and could have gone either way just as they did in the playoffs (except game 1)! For Bos, if you notice the games we won against them last season Shaq played in ALL of them! The games we lost Shaq played in none (he played a little in game four but couldn't go for the second half and wasn't a quarter of himself when he played first half)! Who knows what would have happened if Shaq could have played but we do know what happened when he was able to play against them!

No one knows what could happen in the playoffs, those who say Mia will be better, sure they could... but they could also be just as bad! That's why the games are played... I don't count anyone out!! I know the regular season makes me think we have a shot if we have all our players reasonably as healthy as the oppositions players! Let the chips fall where they may!
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Re: Heat team meeting
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2012, 05:34:34 PM »

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I absolutely agree they were important for the seeding and confidence level of the teams involved.

I just feel that the heat are going to step it up in the playoffs versus the last few games.  That doesn't mean we can't beat them in the playoffs.  I actually think we have a good shot.

But i feel everyone is overreacting to the last few games with the heat.  They are still a very tough matchup, and we are still going to need to play our best to beat them if we see them in the playoffs.


No one's overreacting. Miami looks bad mainly because their supporting cast isn't helping. I don't see that changing in the playoffs. That's puts a tremendous amount of pressure on their core 3. They aren't going to just flip a switch and start destroying people when the playoffs start.

We all know they'll be a tough series if it happens but you can't just dismiss their play as it's the regular season who cares. They still have the same problems that cost them in the Finals last year.

Re: Heat team meeting
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2012, 05:34:44 PM »

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I absolutely agree they were important for the seeding and confidence level of the teams involved.

I just feel that the heat are going to step it up in the playoffs versus the last few games.  That doesn't mean we can't beat them in the playoffs.  I actually think we have a good shot.

But i feel everyone is overreacting to the last few games with the heat.  They are still a very tough matchup, and we are still going to need to play our best to beat them if we see them in the playoffs.

Cmon...the last 2 games were important for the heat in regards to seeding and they lost...to teams that played better than them...lebron played out of his mind in those 2 games and they still lost

They gotto the finals last year because out of nowhere lebron and wade started hitting fadeaway 3s in peoples faces....they came back to earth in the finals.

The heat are not any better than last years team...oon theother handi think both the bulls and celtics are better equipped to matchup with them

I don't think anyone is overreacting or all of a sudden underestimating the Heat.  For much of the year, the most common theory was that our chances of beating the Heat in a playoff series were approximately zero.

I think a lot of people are starting to see that the Heat have flaws and that our team isn't as bad as many thought.  We can beat those guys.  That's all.

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Re: Heat team meeting
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2012, 05:46:33 PM »

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Well there have been a ton of stories in the media about what is wrong with the Heat and the like...

That is what I meant when I said 'everyone'.  I should have said..the MEDIA is overreacting.


I absolutely agree they were important for the seeding and confidence level of the teams involved.

I just feel that the heat are going to step it up in the playoffs versus the last few games.  That doesn't mean we can't beat them in the playoffs.  I actually think we have a good shot.

But i feel everyone is overreacting to the last few games with the heat.  They are still a very tough matchup, and we are still going to need to play our best to beat them if we see them in the playoffs.


No one's overreacting. Miami looks bad mainly because their supporting cast isn't helping. I don't see that changing in the playoffs. That's puts a tremendous amount of pressure on their core 3. They aren't going to just flip a switch and start destroying people when the playoffs start.

We all know they'll be a tough series if it happens but you can't just dismiss their play as it's the regular season who cares. They still have the same problems that cost them in the Finals last year.

Re: Heat team meeting
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2012, 08:34:27 AM »

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LeBron has never been clutch in big games and most likely never will be.

Re: Heat team meeting
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2012, 09:24:35 AM »

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There's some things you can fault a coach, but the players' performances usually dictates who plays.

Spo is still a relatively young head coach, if he were a veteran coach he probably would have stuck with the same lineup, but who knows?

I think when you're struggling, you need to make some changes to see what can work and what can't. If you stay the negative course you won't get better.

I feel like as soon as they got turiaf they made him the starter and since they have been awful. He was messing with the good thing they had before