Big 3 - What now?

[hpantazo]

What now? We sit back and watch this team not get a lotto pick, but then lose in the first round.

So we don't get the impact player we need in a loaded draft AND we don't get another title run.

Good stuff by Danny Ainge.

Dianny did a great job imo. If teams are trying to get our all-stars, including Rondo, for 10 cents on the dollar he should tell them to shove it. We still get a ton of cap space this summer and 2 first round picks, we are fine. No need to kill our cap space or or team for mediocre players and/or 2nd round picks

[droopdog7]

Or we are just realistic.

Cynical =/= realistic.

Seriously, people are acting like there was some magical trade out there that would have made us instant contenders. There probably wasn't.

Trades just for the sake of trades don't help anyone.

LOL getting a legit center isn't just making a trade for the sake of making a trade.

Personally, I think either way there was no chance they would be a contender which I why they should have blown it up on March 1st. But since they decided against that they needed to trade for a Center. Period.

Now we are stuck in the middle. Without a lotto pick and with a early playoff loss extremely likely. Getting a center would have helped their chances if they are going to try to make a run. Just stupid that they didn't.

Yeah seriously, what legit center deal are you talking about. 

[Fafnir]

What now? We sit back and watch this team not get a lotto pick, but then lose in the first round.

So we don't get the impact player we need in a loaded draft AND we don't get another title run.

Good stuff by Danny Ainge.

Dianny did a great job imo. If teams are trying to get our all-stars, including Rondo, for 10 cents on the dollar he should tell them to shove it. We still get a ton of cap space this summer and 2 first round picks, we are fine. No need to kill our cap space or or team for mediocre players and/or 2nd round picks

Here's the other issue, you only have so many minutes to develop players with in the NBA.

Having three low first round picks in a single year isn't all that great. You're not getting elite talent and you probably can't play all three guys, If the C's didn't already have two picks I imagine moving Ray Allen for one would look a lot more attractive to DA.

[LarBrd33]

Kaman could have been had ... probably for a 2nd rounder.

We're basically putting all of our hope this season on landing him... on the off chance that the Hornets will buy him out (despite the fact they say they will not) and that Kaman will pick Boston.

Putting all of our hopes on Kaman is like when Ainge put all of our hopes in Shaq last year.

This is a disgrace.  I'll tune in for our playoff beating, but I can't see watching them trot out the same hapless squad down the stretch.

[wdleehi]

Kaman could have been had ... probably for a 2nd rounder.

We're basically putting all of our hope this season on landing him... on the off chance that the Hornets will buy him out (despite the fact they say they will not) and that Kaman will pick Boston.

Putting all of our hopes on Kaman is like when Ainge put all of our hopes in Shaq last year.

This is a disgrace.  I'll tune in for our playoff beating, but I can't see watching them trot out the same hapless squad down the stretch.

A 2nd and not money coming back perhaps.  The Celtics didn't have cap space to pull off such a deal.


And if he was so cheap, why didn't another team make that trade?  Probably because it was an untrue rumor.

[Fafnir]

Kaman could have been had ... probably for a 2nd rounder.

Depends on who you believe, there were Boston media reports that Kaman's contract was too large for the C's to get in a two team trade without sending more than our random expiring players. A third team would have had to absorb players to make the roster spots/salaries work.

[hpantazo]

Kaman could have been had ... probably for a 2nd rounder.

We're basically putting all of our hope this season on landing him... on the off chance that the Hornets will buy him out (despite the fact they say they will not) and that Kaman will pick Boston.

Putting all of our hopes on Kaman is like when Ainge put all of our hopes in Shaq last year.

This is a disgrace.  I'll tune in for our playoff beating, but I can't see watching them trot out the same hapless squad down the stretch.

everything I've read says we would have had to trade one of the big 3 in a deal for Kaman to make salaries work, despite what the trade checker says. That's not worth it imo.

[LarBrd33]

Kaman could have been had ... probably for a 2nd rounder.

Depends on who you believe, there were Boston media reports that Kaman's contract was too large for the C's to get in a two team trade without sending more than our random expiring players. A third team would have had to absorb players to make the roster spots/salaries work.

It's simple math...  Kaman makes 14 mil (expiring).  JO makes 6.2, Bass makes 4.2, Wilcox makes 3, Dooling makes 2.2 ... You can take back 150% of the salary you send out.

6.2 (jo) + 3 (Wilcox) + 2.2 = 11.4 ... X 150% = 17.1  

What am I missing?  You include those 3 bums + a 2nd rounder ... or Johnson (another 1 mil) or a late first and get Kaman in here for our final run.

Standing pat is a disgrace.

[LooseCannon]

You can take back 150% of the salary you send out.

As a tax-paying team, the Celtics can only take back 125$ plus 100K.

[Reyquila]

The Big Three will not be traded: they will just fade away, like McArthur did.
 

[hpantazo]

Kaman could have been had ... probably for a 2nd rounder.

Depends on who you believe, there were Boston media reports that Kaman's contract was too large for the C's to get in a two team trade without sending more than our random expiring players. A third team would have had to absorb players to make the roster spots/salaries work.

It's simple math...  Kaman makes 14 mil (expiring).  JO makes 6.2, Bass makes 4.2, Wilcox makes 3, Dooling makes 2.2 ... You can take back 150% of the salary you send out.

6.2 (jo) + 3 (Wilcox) + 2.2 = 11.4 ... X 150% = 17.1  

What am I missing?  You include those 3 bums + a 2nd rounder ... or Johnson (another 1 mil) or a late first and get Kaman in here for our final run.

Standing pat is a disgrace.

all reports say otherwise, There are pre-existing trade clauses that make that deal impossible, It would have meant trading one of the big 3.

[boscel33]

What does a legit C cost?  Hill cost a 1st rounder. 

The cost would be long term money like Okafor's eating up the C's cap for the next few years.

Lot of people taking cap room for next year.  What are the legit players that we can get with that cap room?  Are they > than what we could have dealt for this year?

[LarBrd33]

You can take back 150% of the salary you send out.

As a tax-paying team, the Celtics can only take back 125$ plus 100K.

11.4 x 1.25 = 14.25 ... Still works.

ANyhow... whatever.  I'll get over it.  Just would have been nice to at least be mildly competitive in the first round.   This team has reached no-mans land.  Is what it is.  Stinks accepting that your team isn't relevant anymore. It was a fun 3.5 year run.

[wdleehi]

You can take back 150% of the salary you send out.

As a tax-paying team, the Celtics can only take back 125$ plus 100K.

11.4 x 1.25 = 14.25 ... Still works.

ANyhow... whatever.  I'll get over it.  Just would have been nice to at least be mildly competitive in the first round.   This team has reached no-mans land.  Is what it is.  Stinks accepting that your team isn't relevant anymore. It was a fun 3.5 year run.

No.  No-mans land is when you have no cap space with a bunch of overpayed roll players.


Celtics have Rondo and the flexibility to build a new team from the ground around him.  What that have to have is patience and not just blow all the flexibility on the first shiny thing that is put under their noses (like Detroit did)

[elcotte]

Kaman could have been had ... probably for a 2nd rounder.

Depends on who you believe, there were Boston media reports that Kaman's contract was too large for the C's to get in a two team trade without sending more than our random expiring players. A third team would have had to absorb players to make the roster spots/salaries work.

It's simple math...  Kaman makes 14 mil (expiring).  JO makes 6.2, Bass makes 4.2, Wilcox makes 3, Dooling makes 2.2 ... You can take back 150% of the salary you send out.

6.2 (jo) + 3 (Wilcox) + 2.2 = 11.4 ... X 150% = 17.1  

What am I missing?  You include those 3 bums + a 2nd rounder ... or Johnson (another 1 mil) or a late first and get Kaman in here for our final run.


Standing pat is a disgrace.

That's what so many miss around here...it's more than simple math. It's what you get and what you give.