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Re: Rondo gets 2 game suspension
« Reply #45 on: February 20, 2012, 07:12:54 PM »

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Two games don't seem like too much in this case BUT 2 games for stomping a head IS too little! RR should not have done it no matter how mad he was! I know refs aren't the PO PO but if you hit an officer as oppose to hitting a civilian, you get harsher charges... I think it is the same case in the NBA, I don't like the rules (for officers either) but I understand that rules need to be enforced!
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Re: Rondo gets 2 game suspension
« Reply #46 on: February 20, 2012, 07:17:08 PM »

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this is nonsense. look, he overreacted, but the refs missed two obvious calls, one of which was pretty dangerous (monroe jumping on his back). rondo was right to be p---ed off and yell at the refs. he shouldn't have thrown the ball, but imagine you've been getting hit with few calls and then a big man jumps on you and you still don't get a call. i'd probably have lost it as well. an ejection plus 2 games is crazy. love got 2 games...for stomping on scola. this is a massive overreaction, especially because the ref was clearly in the wrong. if that fall goes slightly differently, rondo could have been seriously hurt...and still not have even gotten a call. 1 game suspension would have been more than enough. of course, in dictator stern's NBA, the refs are above the law.

Re: Rondo gets 2 game suspension
« Reply #47 on: February 20, 2012, 07:21:21 PM »

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I forgot to add that if RR DIDN'T get suspended but he was say, LeBron, all of you same people arguing would be saying, if it wasn't LeBron he would have been suspended! Rondo deserved to be suspended but again, stomping a head needs harsher punishment!
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Re: Rondo gets 2 game suspension
« Reply #48 on: February 20, 2012, 07:39:20 PM »

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This isn't the first time Rondo threw the ball hard at a ref this year after complaining.  He got warned the last time.  I would imagine the league office keeps track of such incidents and the past history might have been a factor in the length of suspension. 

Regardless of what you think of the penalty it's a pretty immature act, by a guy who has a history of being immature.

Re: Rondo gets 2 game suspension
« Reply #49 on: February 20, 2012, 07:46:06 PM »

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Deserved.

Re: Rondo gets 2 game suspension
« Reply #50 on: February 20, 2012, 07:51:42 PM »

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Just another nail in the "Rondo can be a leader" coffin, though.

And if he shows no emotion, he's uninterested and doesn't care right?

Maybe he should do the patented Paul Pierce palms-up-ThatsAFoul?face move next time.

Showing emotion so you get thrown out of a game doesn't make you a leader -- or else Rasheed Wallace would have been an amazing leader.


Paul pierce was ejected from a playoff game aginst miami...is the captain not a leader? You need to drop that phony "I like rondo seriosly" banner because you are really reaching here to disparagehim

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I'm not saying Rondo isn't a leader simply because he was ejected from a game.  

The point is, this is yet another symptom of his immaturity.  

Paul Pierce has shown a lot over the course of his career to demonstrate his ability to be a leader -- although to be honest, he wasn't a great leader until much later in his career.Maybe Rondo will have that kind of maturity eventually, but right now I don't see it.
The underlined portion is the key, Rondo is a young player facing probably the worst adversity of his career atm. Up till now other than his rookie year he's been on a team of veterans who were "contending" this is when it gets hard.

This is also when he'll either mature or he won't. I'm not going to declare it a "nail in the coffin" of him as a leader. Rather its a symptom that he still is growing into that role.

That's a fair way to look at things, but it's worth pointing out that plenty of young players are capable leaders even early in their careers (Rose, for example).

The fact that Rondo might still need a while to grow into a leadership role is just another reason to doubt the wisdom of making him "the man" going into a rebuilding effort.  

It's well established that one of the worst things you can have on a rebuilding team is a main guy with a bad attitude -- that tends to set a bad precedent for every new young player that comes in.
I think you as do most commentators are equating winning to leading.

Its very easy to be a leader when you are winning, getting a ton of accolades, and get crowned MVP.

Re: Rondo gets 2 game suspension
« Reply #51 on: February 20, 2012, 08:01:32 PM »

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Just another nail in the "Rondo can be a leader" coffin, though.

And if he shows no emotion, he's uninterested and doesn't care right?

Maybe he should do the patented Paul Pierce palms-up-ThatsAFoul?face move next time.

Showing emotion so you get thrown out of a game doesn't make you a leader -- or else Rasheed Wallace would have been an amazing leader.


Paul pierce was ejected from a playoff game aginst miami...is the captain not a leader? You need to drop that phony "I like rondo seriosly" banner because you are really reaching here to disparagehim

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I'm not saying Rondo isn't a leader simply because he was ejected from a game. 

The point is, this is yet another symptom of his immaturity. 

Paul Pierce has shown a lot over the course of his career to demonstrate his ability to be a leader -- although to be honest, he wasn't a great leader until much later in his career.

Maybe Rondo will have that kind of maturity eventually, but right now I don't see it.

  Doc and the big three have all referred to Rondo as a leader of the team. It seems a little late in the game to debate whether he can be a leader or not.

Re: Rondo gets 2 game suspension
« Reply #52 on: February 20, 2012, 08:05:58 PM »

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I'm surprised it was only two games.

Re: Rondo gets 2 game suspension
« Reply #53 on: February 20, 2012, 08:08:41 PM »

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According to A. Sherrod Blakely's twitter Rondo is getting a 2 game suspension...

GREAT TIMING RONDO!

Pencil us in for 2 more L's

Maybe ....bur I thought we played better without Rondo .

If we win with him gone , his stock will go down faster than Mello's,

Re: Rondo gets 2 game suspension
« Reply #54 on: February 20, 2012, 08:13:48 PM »

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Same penalty as Love? Half of what Bynum got for his cheap shot in the 2011 play-offs? BS.

Re: Rondo gets 2 game suspension
« Reply #55 on: February 20, 2012, 08:35:02 PM »

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Same penalty as Love? Half of what Bynum got for his cheap shot in the 2011 play-offs? BS.

Bynum's penalty in the playoffs was increased due to having a history of prior suspensions.  Love's suspension was in line with the maximum players get for a bad flagrant foul without a previous history of similar actions.

Do people in this thread understand that whether or not the refs are making good calls should have no bearing on Rondo's punishment?
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Re: Rondo gets 2 game suspension
« Reply #56 on: February 20, 2012, 08:35:15 PM »

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Just another nail in the "Rondo can be a leader" coffin, though.

And if he shows no emotion, he's uninterested and doesn't care right?

Maybe he should do the patented Paul Pierce palms-up-ThatsAFoul?face move next time.

Showing emotion so you get thrown out of a game doesn't make you a leader -- or else Rasheed Wallace would have been an amazing leader.


Paul pierce was ejected from a playoff game aginst miami...is the captain not a leader? You need to drop that phony "I like rondo seriosly" banner because you are really reaching here to disparagehim

sigh.

I'm not saying Rondo isn't a leader simply because he was ejected from a game. 

The point is, this is yet another symptom of his immaturity. 

Paul Pierce has shown a lot over the course of his career to demonstrate his ability to be a leader -- although to be honest, he wasn't a great leader until much later in his career.Maybe Rondo will have that kind of maturity eventually, but right now I don't see it.
The underlined portion is the key, Rondo is a young player facing probably the worst adversity of his career atm. Up till now other than his rookie year he's been on a team of veterans who were "contending" this is when it gets hard.

This is also when he'll either mature or he won't. I'm not going to declare it a "nail in the coffin" of him as a leader. Rather its a symptom that he still is growing into that role.

That's a fair way to look at things, but it's worth pointing out that plenty of young players are capable leaders even early in their careers (Rose, for example).

The fact that Rondo might still need a while to grow into a leadership role is just another reason to doubt the wisdom of making him "the man" going into a rebuilding effort. 

It's well established that one of the worst things you can have on a rebuilding team is a main guy with a bad attitude -- that tends to set a bad precedent for every new young player that comes in.
I think you as do most commentators are equating winning to leading.

Its very easy to be a leader when you are winning, getting a ton of accolades, and get crowned MVP.

Rose is also a humble, hard worker who leaves it all out on the court every single night.  I've never heard a single thing about him being mercurial, showing up late to the arena, rubbing teammates the wrong way, etc.


BTW, with regard to the 2 game suspension -- they just said during the game that the league was trying to send a message because this is something Rondo has done 3-4 times before. 

Still think this isn't a big deal or that it isn't a sign of a bad attitude?
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Re: Rondo gets 2 game suspension
« Reply #57 on: February 20, 2012, 08:36:23 PM »

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Just another nail in the "Rondo can be a leader" coffin, though.

And if he shows no emotion, he's uninterested and doesn't care right?

Maybe he should do the patented Paul Pierce palms-up-ThatsAFoul?face move next time.

Showing emotion so you get thrown out of a game doesn't make you a leader -- or else Rasheed Wallace would have been an amazing leader.


Paul pierce was ejected from a playoff game aginst miami...is the captain not a leader? You need to drop that phony "I like rondo seriosly" banner because you are really reaching here to disparagehim

sigh.

I'm not saying Rondo isn't a leader simply because he was ejected from a game. 

The point is, this is yet another symptom of his immaturity. 

Paul Pierce has shown a lot over the course of his career to demonstrate his ability to be a leader -- although to be honest, he wasn't a great leader until much later in his career.

Maybe Rondo will have that kind of maturity eventually, but right now I don't see it.

  Doc and the big three have all referred to Rondo as a leader of the team. It seems a little late in the game to debate whether he can be a leader or not.


He's the leader of a team that's disjointed, inconsistent in terms of effort, and that hasn't had good chemistry since last January.

Just because they call him the leader of the team doesn't mean he's a good one.
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Re: Rondo gets 2 game suspension
« Reply #58 on: February 20, 2012, 08:47:40 PM »

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Eh media stories crowned Rose the MVP, I'm sure like LeBron they'll tear him down eventually. When you're winning and exceeding expectations everyone loves you.

They swooned for LeBron and they're currently swooning for Durant/Rose.


Still think this isn't a big deal or that it isn't a sign of a bad attitude?
I never said any of this.

What I said was this is a sign of his frustration at his first big case of adversity of being on a team that isn't a contender. How he goes from here is whats important, not the immature act itself.

Re: Rondo gets 2 game suspension
« Reply #59 on: February 20, 2012, 09:33:29 PM »

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Just another nail in the "Rondo can be a leader" coffin, though.

And if he shows no emotion, he's uninterested and doesn't care right?

Maybe he should do the patented Paul Pierce palms-up-ThatsAFoul?face move next time.

Showing emotion so you get thrown out of a game doesn't make you a leader -- or else Rasheed Wallace would have been an amazing leader.


Paul pierce was ejected from a playoff game aginst miami...is the captain not a leader? You need to drop that phony "I like rondo seriosly" banner because you are really reaching here to disparagehim

sigh.

I'm not saying Rondo isn't a leader simply because he was ejected from a game. 

The point is, this is yet another symptom of his immaturity. 

Paul Pierce has shown a lot over the course of his career to demonstrate his ability to be a leader -- although to be honest, he wasn't a great leader until much later in his career.

Maybe Rondo will have that kind of maturity eventually, but right now I don't see it.

  Doc and the big three have all referred to Rondo as a leader of the team. It seems a little late in the game to debate whether he can be a leader or not.


He's the leader of a team that's disjointed, inconsistent in terms of effort, and that hasn't had good chemistry since last January.

Just because they call him the leader of the team doesn't mean he's a good one.

  Haha. So after multiple posts about how Rondo's not a leader, you shift your attack to say he is a leader, but the leader of a bad team. Right, wrong or in between, as long as it's a criticism of Rondo it's worth posting.