Only 2 of those are championship level players at this moment. (Rondo and Ray) We can throw out trade ideas all day long, but unless it involves one of those two, packaged with Bass or Pietrus possibly, we might as well keep what we got and play the young guys.

No one is giving anything up of decent value for KG or PP or JO. It is time to let the year play out, and amnesty PP next season. If you can get great value for Ray then you do it as much for his sake as ours. Rondo would have to be incredible value like an upcoming star plus a couple decent #1's. It is what it is guys, but the 08 Championship team old guys are now just used to bee's.

Quote from: EJPLAYA on January 13, 2012, 11:18:19 PM

Only 2 of those are championship level players at this moment. (Rondo and Ray) We can throw out trade ideas all day long, but unless it involves one of those two, packaged with Bass or Pietrus possibly, we might as well keep what we got and play the young guys.

No one is giving anything up of decent value for KG or PP or JO. It is time to let the year play out, and amnesty PP next season. If you can get great value for Ray then you do it as much for his sake as ours. Rondo would have to be incredible value like an upcoming star plus a couple decent #1's. It is what it is guys, but the 08 Championship team old guys are now just used to bee's.

I agree, but I think you´re overrating Rondo.

He´s a good player, but not franchise player material. Considering the market, I think we can´t expect a deal of an upcoming star and a couple of decent #1´s for him. To be honest, I´d be ok with a bad contract and two #1´s in lottery territory.

Quote from: Casperian on January 13, 2012, 11:31:51 PM

Quote from: EJPLAYA on January 13, 2012, 11:18:19 PM

Only 2 of those are championship level players at this moment. (Rondo and Ray) We can throw out trade ideas all day long, but unless it involves one of those two, packaged with Bass or Pietrus possibly, we might as well keep what we got and play the young guys.

No one is giving anything up of decent value for KG or PP or JO. It is time to let the year play out, and amnesty PP next season. If you can get great value for Ray then you do it as much for his sake as ours. Rondo would have to be incredible value like an upcoming star plus a couple decent #1's. It is what it is guys, but the 08 Championship team old guys are now just used to bee's.

I agree, but I think you´re overrating Rondo.

He´s a good player, but not franchise player material. Considering the market, I think we can´t expect a deal of an upcoming star and a couple of decent #1´s for him. To be honest, I´d be ok with a bad contract and two #1´s in lottery territory.

I've said around here multiple times that I don't think he is a franchise player to build around. He IS however the most valued player out there that we have, and there are a lot of teams like the Heat or Magic who are a Rondo away from a championship. I put Dallas in that mix as well. There are also quite a few who would THINK they are that with him on their squad as well. We will never get more value than we would right now for Rondo. I would probably be good with an expiring and 2 lotto's as well though. TP to you. 

From what I saw tonight live, everyone's busting their butts. KG and Paul just don't have it anymore.

Rondo - Ray - Pietrus - Bass - Stiemsma


Sadly, I think you're right -- that's probably our best lineup right now. 

Vomit.

Quote from: PosImpos on January 14, 2012, 12:21:49 AM

Rondo - Ray - Pietrus - Bass - Stiemsma


Sadly, I think you're right -- that's probably our best lineup right now. 

Vomit.

When we got to one... The line up I would have gone with would have been Rondo - Ray - Pietrus - Bass and Wilcox.... We needed energy and athleticism. Put in the athletes that can bang the boards and run a bit at the end of the game for some easy buckets. Ray and Pietrus to spread the floor, Bass and Wilcox get up and down and do the dirty work. Especially against the run and gun style of the Bulls.

The game has been evolving for a few years now and we are at a point where half court offense isnt a priority....Especially when it is ran so poorly as the Celtics have been running it.