Green's qualifying offer withdrawn.. He is a UFA Sigh... Good for him I guess

[j804]

This really means nothing. If Danny didn't withdraw the QO, Green would've taken it, and we would've paid him 6 million to not play and he would be an unrestricted free agent next summer.  So now he'll still be an unrestricted free agent, we just didn't have to pay him.

Still have the Bird rights either way. Smart move.

Ahh ok so we could still match any offers for him? I'm confused as I thought thats what was a RFA

[action781]

This really means nothing. If Danny didn't withdraw the QO, Green would've taken it, and we would've paid him 6 million to not play and he would be an unrestricted free agent next summer.  So now he'll still be an unrestricted free agent, we just didn't have to pay him.

Still have the Bird rights either way. Smart move.

Ahh ok so we could still match any offers for him? I'm confused as I thought thats what was a RFA

No.  Bird rights just means you can offer your own player a contract if you are over the salary cap.  If he's an UFA, then we have no matching capabilities.

But bird rights aren't going to matter much because we're going to be under the cap anyways.  We'll actually have to renounce our bird rights in order to free up his cap hold that way we can have the cap space that Danny has been planning for.  Bird rights are pretty useless in this situation.  Only useful if we somehow enter free agency above the salary cap.

[nickagneta]

Good financial move by the Celtics as next year Green just can't come back and accept the QO and get $6 million even though he's a huge question mark.

[bruinsandceltics]

If the Celtics are really paying for his surgery/care/rehab, I can't see him signing with anyone but the Celtics this summer.

Maybe I'm just naive though.....

[GrandTheftRondo]

I guess I'm the only one who wont shed a tear if Jeff Green goes. I don't understand the fascination with this kid.

[nickagneta]

I guess I'm the only one who wont shed a tear if Jeff Green goes. I don't understand the fascination with this kid.

Nope...not the only one.

[Marcus13]

Im glad he hopefully wont be back in Boston...but wow, what a god-awful trade to ruin our chance at a championship last year for literally NOTHING

[bruinsandceltics]

I guess I'm the only one who wont shed a tear if Jeff Green goes. I don't understand the fascination with this kid.

Yeah, who would ever want a career 14/6 player that is only 25 (will be 26 next year)?

I think I will give a young guy, adjusting to his first ever trade more than 26 games to prove himself with his new team.

[snively]

Im glad he hopefully wont be back in Boston...but wow, what a god-awful trade to ruin our chance at a championship last year for literally NOTHING

Half a season of Green and Krstic and a pick for half a season of Perk (we weren't resigning him) and a salary dump of Nate.  Definitely not nothing.  Still disappointing that we weren't able to get anything from Green this year.

Don't really want to spend cap space on him next year so I'm more than fine with rescinding the QO.

[celtics2]

My thought is that people don't like to move around all over the place when they're in a pretty good situation as-is. 

So there's a home court advantage with UFA's, I think, especially like Bass and Green, and either might get $5-8M per year.

Rondo  11M
Pierce 16M
JGreen  6M
Bass  8M
Bradley 2M
JJJ  1M
Steimer 5M
EMoore  0.5M
Ray  5M
KG  10M
TOTAL:  $64.5M

Can we milk it a couple more years?

KG 10M?
Stiemsma 5M?

Joe Dumars is that you?

He's my brother.

Seriously, though, if Rondo is such a great PG, can he elevate the level of talent around him with a solid 9-man rotation to contend for a championship for two more seasons with that lineup?  Add another $3M MMLE signing, too?

Could this group steal one this year with the extra punch of Dooling, Daniels, JO, and Wilcox, and one of the next two at least make the Finals or ECF?

I think the matchups look good with PP/JG starting, Ray off the bench at 2, with either Bradley or Moore getting 8 min. next season.

KG and Bass continue to split the 4 fairly evenly, and together at the end.  J3 is available as well to fill in, or if KG plays even more stints at C.

Steimer starts at C next season, plays 24 minutes, backed up by KG for 10 and a MMLE player for 14 (Wilcox role).

Steal someone to backup Rondo, have 2 1st rounders to develop or trade, and make a run for 2 more years.

Not a bad Plan B.

Steal one? Ha ha gotta love it. 3 of the starters have to show their Medicare Cards to get into the locker room. Waiting for a stimulus package from Obama. Celts too big to fail. Yeah we can milk this for another couple years. Make mine chocolate. The Rodeo's coming on. Later.

[Inside-Out]

I guess I'm the only one who wont shed a tear if Jeff Green goes. I don't understand the fascination with this kid.

Yeah, who would ever want a career 14/6 player that is only 25 (will be 26 next year)?

I think I will give a young guy, adjusting to his first ever trade more than 26 games to prove himself with his new team.

This is the thing right here.

Can we keep the current core plus JGreen and BBass, two 14/6 guys, coming off the bench to play close to 30 min each?

Don't Rondo, Doc, and chemistry elevate that group to contention?

[TripleOT]

Im glad he hopefully wont be back in Boston...but wow, what a god-awful trade to ruin our chance at a championship last year for literally NOTHING

Half a season of Green and Krstic and a pick for half a season of Perk (we weren't resigning him) and a salary dump of Nate.  Definitely not nothing.  Still disappointing that we weren't able to get anything from Green this year.

Don't really want to spend cap space on him next year so I'm more than fine with rescinding the QO.

I think Perk would have re-upped here if that stupid trade never happened.  And I also think the Cs would have at least a puncher's chance at another title last season. It was a dumb trade then, and now it looks horrendous.

I can't imagine there being a huge market for a UFA comin off open heart surgery, but in the crazy world on the NBA, you never know.  Those 14 points, 6 rebound, soft as tissue paper tweeners are quite valuable, unlike defensive minded, tough as nail, term oriented centers like Perk. 

Here's what gets me about the "Cs weren't resigning Perk anyways" line of thought.  So you're willing to pay a softie like Jeff Green big money, but not a solid defensive interior presence like Perk?  i'd rather pay 4/$32m for Perk than Green, who, instead of sucking last year as a Celtic, actually played well, should have snagged in an offer sheet this summer.   

 

[pearljammer10]

Im glad he hopefully wont be back in Boston...but wow, what a god-awful trade to ruin our chance at a championship last year for literally NOTHING

Half a season of Green and Krstic and a pick for half a season of Perk (we weren't resigning him) and a salary dump of Nate.  Definitely not nothing.  Still disappointing that we weren't able to get anything from Green this year.

Don't really want to spend cap space on him next year so I'm more than fine with rescinding the QO.

I think Perk would have re-upped here if that stupid trade never happened.  And I also think the Cs would have at least a puncher's chance at another title last season. It was a dumb trade then, and now it looks horrendous.

I can't imagine there being a huge market for a UFA comin off open heart surgery, but in the crazy world on the NBA, you never know.  Those 14 points, 6 rebound, soft as tissue paper tweeners are quite valuable, unlike defensive minded, tough as nail, term oriented centers like Perk. 

Here's what gets me about the "Cs weren't resigning Perk anyways" line of thought.  So you're willing to pay a softie like Jeff Green big money, but not a solid defensive interior presence like Perk?  i'd rather pay 4/$32m for Perk than Green, who, instead of sucking last year as a Celtic, actually played well, should have snagged in an offer sheet this summer.   

 

This is why I hated the trade to being with, still hate it, and probably will for a few long years...

Young athletic three forwards are pretty easy to find. An intimidating center who can command a defensive unit is so very rare. Very hard to swallow and understand that trade still.

[Kane3387]

This really doesn't mean all THAT much.  Green was free to solicit offers anyway, the C's just gave up their right to match.  They still own his Bird Rights (which may not mean much with so much cap space next season) so they can still sign him to whatever they want.

I guess we'll wait and see

[LarBrd33]

My thought is that people don't like to move around all over the place when they're in a pretty good situation as-is. 

So there's a home court advantage with UFA's, I think, especially like Bass and Green, and either might get $5-8M per year.

Rondo  11M
Pierce 16M
JGreen  6M
Bass  8M
Bradley 2M
JJJ  1M
Steimer 5M
EMoore  0.5M
Ray  5M
KG  10M
TOTAL:  $64.5M

Can we milk it a couple more years?

Stiemsma 5 MILLION.....WHAT

Just a hunch that after this season some team will offer him the full MLE to be a backup C in the rotation, and we'd probably match.

He'll be lucky to make it through this season without being cut. No chance.