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Re: Johnson = Brooks
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2012, 03:16:11 PM »

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how good did Nate Robinson look on the bottom dwelling DiAntoni run Knicks before DiAntoni wised up and put him in his dog house? He shot and scored at will and looked like an all-star too. How did he do on the celtics? That's all I have to say about Brooks.

Re: Johnson = Brooks
« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2012, 05:35:46 PM »

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Many fans are left wondering if Ainge 'flopped' on the draft as Brooks excels in New Jersey Nets, but my opinion I always notice is that in the Big 3 era, many talented rookies achieved limited success with the Boston roster. Example players of this theory is Bill 'Hogging' Walker, Semih 'Automatic' Erden and Luke 'the Fluke' Gody.

In other words, if we had not switch the two rookies, my thought is that I assume Johnson would have as much success as Brooks is having now in NJ and Brooks would have as much success as Johnson is having in Beantown.

I would also note that the Nets are a terrible team, whose best players have been injured at times, giving a rookie more than enough leverage to shoot the rock - which is great for a scorer like Brooks.

Brooks is a volume scorer.  There is no doubt in my mind that he will put up 30+ in NBA games.  There are lots of guys in the league who can do that, and make a good career for themselves. 

But they rarely ever win.

Re: Johnson = Brooks
« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2012, 05:48:31 PM »

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Many fans are left wondering if Ainge 'flopped' on the draft as Brooks excels in New Jersey Nets, but my opinion I always notice is that in the Big 3 era, many talented rookies achieved limited success with the Boston roster. Example players of this theory is Bill 'Hogging' Walker, Semih 'Automatic' Erden and Luke 'the Fluke' Gody.

In other words, if we had not switch the two rookies, my thought is that I assume Johnson would have as much success as Brooks is having now in NJ and Brooks would have as much success as Johnson is having in Beantown.

I would also note that the Nets are a terrible team, whose best players have been injured at times, giving a rookie more than enough leverage to shoot the rock - which is great for a scorer like Brooks.

Brooks is a volume scorer.  There is no doubt in my mind that he will put up 30+ in NBA games.  There are lots of guys in the league who can do that, and make a good career for themselves. 

But they rarely ever win.

For all this talk about "volume shooting" you guys are aware that Brooks is 4th in the league among shooting guards (as far as ESPN considers players SG) in FG%?

His FG attempts are about right considering his role and playing time. This volume shooting argument has little water at the moment as far as this season goes.

Re: Johnson = Brooks
« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2012, 05:58:35 PM »

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Many fans are left wondering if Ainge 'flopped' on the draft as Brooks excels in New Jersey Nets, but my opinion I always notice is that in the Big 3 era, many talented rookies achieved limited success with the Boston roster. Example players of this theory is Bill 'Hogging' Walker, Semih 'Automatic' Erden and Luke 'the Fluke' Gody.

In other words, if we had not switch the two rookies, my thought is that I assume Johnson would have as much success as Brooks is having now in NJ and Brooks would have as much success as Johnson is having in Beantown.

I would also note that the Nets are a terrible team, whose best players have been injured at times, giving a rookie more than enough leverage to shoot the rock - which is great for a scorer like Brooks.

Brooks is a volume scorer.  There is no doubt in my mind that he will put up 30+ in NBA games.  There are lots of guys in the league who can do that, and make a good career for themselves. 

But they rarely ever win.

For all this talk about "volume shooting" you guys are aware that Brooks is 4th in the league among shooting guards (as far as ESPN considers players SG) in FG%?

His FG attempts are about right considering his role and playing time. This volume shooting argument has little water at the moment as far as this season goes.
Its not just about how many shots he's making but how he plays and the type of shots he is taking.

Brandon Jennings was shooting 47% at the comparable point of his rookie season, Brooks is currently at 46%.

Re: Johnson = Brooks
« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2012, 06:00:10 PM »

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Many fans are left wondering if Ainge 'flopped' on the draft as Brooks excels in New Jersey Nets, but my opinion I always notice is that in the Big 3 era, many talented rookies achieved limited success with the Boston roster. Example players of this theory is Bill 'Hogging' Walker, Semih 'Automatic' Erden and Luke 'the Fluke' Gody.

In other words, if we had not switch the two rookies, my thought is that I assume Johnson would have as much success as Brooks is having now in NJ and Brooks would have as much success as Johnson is having in Beantown.

I would also note that the Nets are a terrible team, whose best players have been injured at times, giving a rookie more than enough leverage to shoot the rock - which is great for a scorer like Brooks.

Brooks is a volume scorer.  There is no doubt in my mind that he will put up 30+ in NBA games.  There are lots of guys in the league who can do that, and make a good career for themselves. 

But they rarely ever win.

For all this talk about "volume shooting" you guys are aware that Brooks is 4th in the league among shooting guards (as far as ESPN considers players SG) in FG%?

His FG attempts are about right considering his role and playing time. This volume shooting argument has little water at the moment as far as this season goes.

Right now Brooks has a higher NBA career FG% than Ray Allen.  The guy's looked great.

Re: Johnson = Brooks
« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2012, 06:16:51 PM »

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Many fans are left wondering if Ainge 'flopped' on the draft as Brooks excels in New Jersey Nets, but my opinion I always notice is that in the Big 3 era, many talented rookies achieved limited success with the Boston roster. Example players of this theory is Bill 'Hogging' Walker, Semih 'Automatic' Erden and Luke 'the Fluke' Gody.

In other words, if we had not switch the two rookies, my thought is that I assume Johnson would have as much success as Brooks is having now in NJ and Brooks would have as much success as Johnson is having in Beantown.

I would also note that the Nets are a terrible team, whose best players have been injured at times, giving a rookie more than enough leverage to shoot the rock - which is great for a scorer like Brooks.

Brooks is a volume scorer.  There is no doubt in my mind that he will put up 30+ in NBA games.  There are lots of guys in the league who can do that, and make a good career for themselves.  

But they rarely ever win.

For all this talk about "volume shooting" you guys are aware that Brooks is 4th in the league among shooting guards (as far as ESPN considers players SG) in FG%?

His FG attempts are about right considering his role and playing time. This volume shooting argument has little water at the moment as far as this season goes.
Its not just about how many shots he's making but how he plays and the type of shots he is taking.

Brandon Jennings was shooting 47% at the comparable point of his rookie season, Brooks is currently at 46%.

Keep in mind that Jennings, in the month of November of his rookie year he was taking 19 shots a game. Right now Brooks is taking a little under 12 shots a game, and making it at a high percentage rate. Is that something representative of a volume scorer? I don't think so. He could very well become one, but it's not what he has shown himself to be as far as I'm concerned.

Volume scorer to me suggests someone who gets high points per game because he shoots a lot, but doesn't have a high shooting percentage.

What Brook is doing now is simply being an efficient scorer. We'll have to see where he goes from here. His playing time to FGA ratio is similar to that of Manu Ginobili, difference that Manu goes to the line far more and Brooks has a bigger role with the Nets than Manu with the Spurs through his career.

Brooks hasn't shot more than 17 shots in a game so far this season. By this point this season, Jennnings had 23, 19, 34, 22, 23 FGA games.

I don't know, I just don't think calling him a volume scorer at this point is an accurate depiction of what Brooks is doing. He might become one, that's certainly a possibility, but he's a shooting guard whose role is to shoot the ball, and he's doing it at a good pace and in an efficient manner. Jennings had other responsibilities too, primordially being a ball distributor which conflicted with his high FGA.

Re: Johnson = Brooks
« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2012, 06:23:25 PM »

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Brooks was tough to pass on. I was hoping they would take him; but I like the Johnson pick. I am hoping we will be seeing more of the kid now that he has a few more practices under his belt. We need some nice leads to get him some more playing time.