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Re: Is Stiemsma the real deal? Have we found a Perk replacement?
« Reply #60 on: January 02, 2012, 11:11:02 PM »

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My perspective: Stiemsma looks like he has more potential than Perkins simply because he can hit the outside shot. (though Doc had to get him to say it to himself in front of the whole team in practice that "My name is Greg Stiemsma, I'm a shooter" to get him to believe it himself) However, he's a rookie; IOW he's untrained. Time will tell if he is motivated to work, take constructive criticism, keep his confidence level up, and improve.

Re: Is Stiemsma the real deal? Have we found a Perk replacement?
« Reply #61 on: January 02, 2012, 11:12:14 PM »

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My perspective: Stiemsma looks like he has more potential than Perkins simply because he can hit the outside shot. (though Doc had to get him to say it to himself in front of the whole team in practice that "My name is Greg Stiemsma, I'm a shooter" to get him to believe it himself) However, he's a rookie; IOW he's untrained. Time will tell if he is motivated to work, take constructive criticism, keep his confidence level up, and improve.




u were there?

Re: Is Stiemsma the real deal? Have we found a Perk replacement?
« Reply #62 on: January 02, 2012, 11:14:35 PM »

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My perspective: Stiemsma looks like he has more potential than Perkins simply because he can hit the outside shot. (though Doc had to get him to say it to himself in front of the whole team in practice that "My name is Greg Stiemsma, I'm a shooter" to get him to believe it himself) However, he's a rookie; IOW he's untrained. Time will tell if he is motivated to work, take constructive criticism, keep his confidence level up, and improve.




u were there?

Doc said that in his press conference after the game.

Re: Is Stiemsma the real deal? Have we found a Perk replacement?
« Reply #63 on: January 02, 2012, 11:19:44 PM »

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I think Stiemsma is proof of my assertion that there are several players in the D-League and Europe who are potential rotation players on a playoff contender.  If I were going to try to mine the D-League or foreign teams for similar players, I think I'd rather go after guys who are in their late 20s, never had a real chance to make the NBA, and are now overlooked because of their age.
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Re: Is Stiemsma the real deal? Have we found a Perk replacement?
« Reply #64 on: January 02, 2012, 11:19:56 PM »

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I think Perk is better for this team for one reason: he can defend the best centers in the league without help. While there are things that Stiemsma does better than Perk, that one skill is a huge positive against good teams because we could play that team straight up defensively. I don't think we could honestly say that about Greg.

Against teams without a good center, I might hedge on that opinion.

Lastly, as someone who has coached and watched him play since his early high school days, it is great to see him succeed.

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« Reply #65 on: January 02, 2012, 11:23:29 PM »

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I like the guy, I'm not worried about his potential and all that other stuff. If he can continue to play like this and stays healthy there's a place for him in the NBA. He's seems to be confident in his ability and aware of his strengths and weakness which is half the battle for an NBA big man(these days).

Perk can barely walk and chew gum.  With his poor basketball abilitiy, if he was 3 inches shorter he couldn't have made a major college program ,and never seen the NBA.  Lucky he grew fast.

Jokes on you, Perk never played college ball. He came straight from high school. AND as a senior he was 6'8, 2 inches shorter than he is now. Plus, he was the 2nd ranked player in the country. As a senor, he averaged 27.5 points, 16.4 rebounds and 7.8 blocked shots.


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A dominant post-up player at the high school level. He has excellent hands to catch most every entry pass and has a polished jump hook and a workable drop step move to the basket. An intimidating shot blocking force at the high school level.

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=220661


http://www.nba.com/draft2003/profiles/PerkinsKendrick.html




Am I the only one who lol'd when they read excellent hands?

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« Reply #66 on: January 02, 2012, 11:52:24 PM »

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Imho its absurd to say he is just a Semih replacement and perhaps intentionally provocative.

he is hitting and confident in his jumper. He is strong and physical and jumping fine. He is blocking shots like he is comfortable down there smacking them on rotation to the board and off the board. He is way up on the backboard when he is doing it. He appears way bigger and stronger than Semih.

If he can do a better job defending the block well its crazy we got him for nothing

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« Reply #67 on: January 02, 2012, 11:53:29 PM »

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I'm shocked no one else gave the D-league defensive player of the year a harder look. So thankful Miami didn't grab him.

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« Reply #68 on: January 03, 2012, 12:11:02 AM »

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I'm shocked no one else gave the D-league defensive player of the year a harder look. So thankful Miami didn't grab him.

I guess he got several camp invites and picked us.

Like all the top free agents...

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« Reply #69 on: January 03, 2012, 12:18:46 AM »

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To me, he looks like he can develop into a solid Chris Andersen type. Can't be too bad for someone who came on board with zero expectations.
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« Reply #70 on: January 03, 2012, 12:20:12 AM »

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I'm shocked no one else gave the D-league defensive player of the year a harder look. So thankful Miami didn't grab him.

I guess he got several camp invites and picked us.

Like all the top free agents...
Well as a big man I think the C's would be very attractive for an attempt to latch on. We really needed a backup C in the worst way.

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« Reply #71 on: January 03, 2012, 12:24:20 AM »

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To me, he looks like he can develop into a solid Chris Andersen type. Can't be too bad for someone who came on board with zero expectations.
Seems that sort of player on defense, though he's less of a garbage man on offense it seems with how he rolls out for the jump shot.

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« Reply #72 on: January 03, 2012, 12:30:16 AM »

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To me, he looks like he can develop into a solid Chris Andersen type. Can't be too bad for someone who came on board with zero expectations.
Seems that sort of player on defense, though he's less of a garbage man on offense it seems with how he rolls out for the jump shot.
I find it pretty nice that you can actually run stuff with him offensively, rather than have him lurk around the basket waiting for the board to bounce his way, or something.

Also, he appeared quite poised for someone who's making his first NBA start -- I can remember maybe one bad decision with the ball.
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« Reply #73 on: January 03, 2012, 12:31:45 AM »

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I'm shocked no one else gave the D-league defensive player of the year a harder look. So thankful Miami didn't grab him.

I guess he got several camp invites and picked us.

Like all the top free agents...
Well as a big man I think the C's would be very attractive for an attempt to latch on. We really needed a backup C in the worst way.
Backup? We may need a starter who can stay healthy in the worst way.
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« Reply #74 on: January 03, 2012, 12:42:49 AM »

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To me, he looks like he can develop into a solid Chris Andersen type. Can't be too bad for someone who came on board with zero expectations.
Seems that sort of player on defense, though he's less of a garbage man on offense it seems with how he rolls out for the jump shot.
I find it pretty nice that you can actually run stuff with him offensively, rather than have him lurk around the basket waiting for the board to bounce his way, or something.

Also, he appeared quite poised for someone who's making his first NBA start -- I can remember maybe one bad decision with the ball.
I counted three that bothered me, though one of those was passing an open jump shot which he ended up taking after getting the ball right back.

I was very pleased with his performance.