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Re: Why Keep #1 Picks
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2012, 02:12:14 PM »

Offline hpantazo

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Why keep #1 picks? Because some of them eventually turn into players like Rondo, Perkins, or Pierce.

Perks rookie year: played 10 games, averaged 3:30 minutes, 1.4 rebounds, 2.2 points

Rondo's rookie year: 78 games, 23:30 minutes, 3.8 assists, 6.4 points

not all-star numbers or starters numbers by any means. Be patient, the guys with talent will get there under Doc, the ones without will be gone.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2012, 02:20:04 PM by hpantazo »

Re: Why Keep #1 Picks
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2012, 02:36:52 PM »

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Why does everyone want to trade up in the draft? By the time that player hits his prime Rondo will be in his early 30's and it will all have been a waste. We will have been a 8th seed/just missing the playoffs for the next 4-5 years. We need to either go full on rebuild, or find players around Rondo's age that will make an impact (Monta Ellis, Dwight Howard, Josh Smith, Lamarcus Aldridge, Kevin Love, Eric Gordon, OJ Mayo)
You think it takes 5 years for a player to hit his prime? Guys like Gilchrist, Quincy Miller, and Austin Rivers will need maybe one year, if that, to start reaching potential all star level.
This draft is packed with all stars- the types of players who potentially come in the league and average 20 points a game their first year.

Re: Why Keep #1 Picks
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2012, 10:21:37 PM »

Offline Smokeeye123

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http://www.nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft

The place above has the Celtics getting the 8th overall pick from the Clippers. Hypothetically, we could then trade both of our 1st round picks and move up to possibly the 6th or 5th spot and possibly select a game changing player like Sullinger or Beal. Obviously that is the best case scenario, but hey, in the words of KG..."ANYTHING IS POSSIBLLLLLLLLLLEEE!!!"

Re: Why Keep #1 Picks
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2012, 10:23:07 PM »

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http://www.nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft

The place above has the Celtics getting the 8th overall pick from the Clippers. Hypothetically, we could then trade both of our 1st round picks and move up to possibly the 6th or 5th spot and possibly select a game changing player like Sullinger or Beal. Obviously that is the best case scenario, but hey, in the words of KG..."ANYTHING IS POSSIBLLLLLLLLLLEEE!!!"

Unfortunately, that literally would not be possible, because the pick is top 10 protected. 

Re: Why Keep #1 Picks
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2012, 10:29:15 PM »

Offline Smokeeye123

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http://www.nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft

The place above has the Celtics getting the 8th overall pick from the Clippers. Hypothetically, we could then trade both of our 1st round picks and move up to possibly the 6th or 5th spot and possibly select a game changing player like Sullinger or Beal. Obviously that is the best case scenario, but hey, in the words of KG..."ANYTHING IS POSSIBLLLLLLLLLLEEE!!!"

Unfortunately, that literally would not be possible, because the pick is top 10 protected. 

Well...nevermind then... :'(

Re: Why Keep #1 Picks
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2012, 10:36:20 PM »

Offline bfrombleacher

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Why keep #1 picks? Because some of them eventually turn into players like Rondo, Perkins, or Pierce.

Perks rookie year: played 10 games, averaged 3:30 minutes, 1.4 rebounds, 2.2 points

Rondo's rookie year: 78 games, 23:30 minutes, 3.8 assists, 6.4 points

not all-star numbers or starters numbers by any means. Be patient, the guys with talent will get there under Doc, the ones without will be gone.

Good argument. You changed my view.

Also we are coming off an 0-3 start. We need the morale boosts. Not to mention this may be our last championship run with this core (key word/phrase: may be, case in point: Spurs and Timmy yesterday) and we've got to give it all we got.

For those doubting Jajuan's ability, he's been sitting for 47+ minutes and only gets a shot a game. Don't doubt yet. Cold hands, cold feet, cold everything.

Re: Why Keep #1 Picks
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2012, 10:53:11 PM »

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You keep #1 picks because they are assets.  Here's a hypothetical situation:

Clippers pick is around 15 or 17
Our pick is in the 25-30 range

Add in Bradley or Moore and the Nets 2014 2nd rounder,
and you get yourself in the 8-11 range in the draft to take someone like Austin Rivers, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, or Quincy Miller.
No responsible GM would move an extra 1st round pick (which by the way, the C's pick will most likely be around 20, not 25-30) with that Clips pick, a young player with potential AND a projected high second rounder just to move up 7 spots in a deep draft.  It'd be one thing if they were able to move into the top 3 (depending on whether there's foundation players in those spots) but this keeps them in a spot where they should be able to get 2 similar quality players by standing pat.

Re: Why Keep #1 Picks
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2012, 01:02:57 AM »

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of all the rookies this season so far

I agree with all the above...

Moore is a good player offensively, but no idea about his defense
I LOVE Bradley's tight defense, but sometimes he can be a little bit TOO aggressive, his offense sucks though
Johnson didn't play enough for me to judge him

Doc does play rookies, as long as they can show him, Stiesma is playing decent minutes isnt he, and hes a top 3 shot blocker in the league right now averaging 3.5 bpg. Maybe its because Wilcox is out but hes using his given time wisely and hence why he is ahead of Johnson in terms of big lineups

Re: Why Keep #1 Picks
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2012, 01:22:02 AM »

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Doc does play rookies, as long as they can show him, Stiesma is playing decent minutes isnt he, and hes a top 3 shot blocker in the league right now averaging 3.5 bpg.

Doc's trust thing is a blessing and a curse. Even when rookies get time they don't get touches nor do they get Doc's vote of confidence.