Suns waive Mickael Pietrus

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I don't know. He shot less than 40% last year and he's a career sub 70% ft shooter. Throw in the injury and there might be a reason he's available

Again, what are the options? Sure, he's not Paul Pierce; however, who else can we get for the minimum who can do what Pietrus does?

Answer: no one.

I just don't understand what people expect Danny to do.

Is Al Thornton still around? Is Anthony Parker? Wait for the China guys to get back or guys from Europe?

Now Parker, there is an example of an old, washed up guy. Thorton ain't coming for the vet min, and if we wait for the guys from China to maybe sign with us, Pierce and Ray will already have been run into the ground by Doc.

[Eja117]

I don't know. He shot less than 40% last year and he's a career sub 70% ft shooter. Throw in the injury and there might be a reason he's available

of course there are reasons why he's available, but all we have to offer is the vet min and a chance to play with an aging group of hall of famers and a moody point guard in a cold city

Yeah....I'd rather give it to a hungry young guy than a hurt mediocre vet that other teams wanted no part of.  To me any vet we get needs to be better than Etwaun Moore. Or JuJuan Johnson. Or Avery Bradley. Otherwise I'm not sure what the point is.

He's not old, he's 29, and he is hungry, he gave up $$ in his buyout to have a chance to play for a contender. Also, the guys you mentioned won't be anywhere near Pietrus' ability to contribute   for another 2-3 years, if ever.

I just don't think a guy that can't shoot can help us. Maybe there's something I don't realize about his defense.

[hpantazo]

Courtesy of ASherrod...

#CSNNE.com has learned that Pietrus is leaning "heavily" towards the #Celtics, provided he clears waivers. Story up on the site shortly.

I hope he's leaning as heavily to come to boston as Sweetney leans on the guys he defends when he's on the floor.

[hpantazo]

I don't know. He shot less than 40% last year and he's a career sub 70% ft shooter. Throw in the injury and there might be a reason he's available

of course there are reasons why he's available, but all we have to offer is the vet min and a chance to play with an aging group of hall of famers and a moody point guard in a cold city

Yeah....I'd rather give it to a hungry young guy than a hurt mediocre vet that other teams wanted no part of.  To me any vet we get needs to be better than Etwaun Moore. Or JuJuan Johnson. Or Avery Bradley. Otherwise I'm not sure what the point is.

He's not old, he's 29, and he is hungry, he gave up $$ in his buyout to have a chance to play for a contender. Also, the guys you mentioned won't be anywhere near Pietrus' ability to contribute   for another 2-3 years, if ever.

I just don't think a guy that can't shoot can help us. Maybe there's something I don't realize about his defense.

He's a lockdown wing defender, and he can shoot the 3. He killed us often enough with it for me to remember clearly, unfortunately.

[Eja117]

I don't know. He shot less than 40% last year and he's a career sub 70% ft shooter. Throw in the injury and there might be a reason he's available

Again, what are the options? Sure, he's not Paul Pierce; however, who else can we get for the minimum who can do what Pietrus does?

Answer: no one.

I just don't understand what people expect Danny to do.

Is Al Thornton still around? Is Anthony Parker? Wait for the China guys to get back or guys from Europe?

Now Parker, there is an example of an old, washed up guy. Thorton ain't coming for the vet min, and if we wait for the guys from China to maybe sign with us, Pierce and Ray will already have been run into the ground by Doc.

If with the current bench Pierce and Ray can't make it through two months, then I don't think Pietrus can save us.

Interesting that you're saying Pierce and Ray can't make it because Pietrus is a pretty fragile player over his career. He also has a negative assist to TO ratio, so he can't pass either

[cman88]

I don't know. He shot less than 40% last year and he's a career sub 70% ft shooter. Throw in the injury and there might be a reason he's available

of course there are reasons why he's available, but all we have to offer is the vet min and a chance to play with an aging group of hall of famers and a moody point guard in a cold city

Yeah....I'd rather give it to a hungry young guy than a hurt mediocre vet that other teams wanted no part of.  To me any vet we get needs to be better than Etwaun Moore. Or JuJuan Johnson. Or Avery Bradley. Otherwise I'm not sure what the point is.

He's not old, he's 29, and he is hungry, he gave up $$ in his buyout to have a chance to play for a contender. Also, the guys you mentioned won't be anywhere near Pietrus' ability to contribute   for another 2-3 years, if ever.

I just don't think a guy that can't shoot can help us. Maybe there's something I don't realize about his defense.

huh? hes a career 36% three shooter I wouldnt say hes a guy who "cant shoot"

[Eja117]

I don't know. He shot less than 40% last year and he's a career sub 70% ft shooter. Throw in the injury and there might be a reason he's available

of course there are reasons why he's available, but all we have to offer is the vet min and a chance to play with an aging group of hall of famers and a moody point guard in a cold city

Yeah....I'd rather give it to a hungry young guy than a hurt mediocre vet that other teams wanted no part of.  To me any vet we get needs to be better than Etwaun Moore. Or JuJuan Johnson. Or Avery Bradley. Otherwise I'm not sure what the point is.

He's not old, he's 29, and he is hungry, he gave up $$ in his buyout to have a chance to play for a contender. Also, the guys you mentioned won't be anywhere near Pietrus' ability to contribute   for another 2-3 years, if ever.

I just don't think a guy that can't shoot can help us. Maybe there's something I don't realize about his defense.

He's a lockdown wing defender, and he can shoot the 3. He killed us often enough with it for me to remember clearly, unfortunately.

I hope you are right

[hpantazo]

I don't know. He shot less than 40% last year and he's a career sub 70% ft shooter. Throw in the injury and there might be a reason he's available

Again, what are the options? Sure, he's not Paul Pierce; however, who else can we get for the minimum who can do what Pietrus does?

Answer: no one.

I just don't understand what people expect Danny to do.

Is Al Thornton still around? Is Anthony Parker? Wait for the China guys to get back or guys from Europe?

Now Parker, there is an example of an old, washed up guy. Thorton ain't coming for the vet min, and if we wait for the guys from China to maybe sign with us, Pierce and Ray will already have been run into the ground by Doc.

If with the current bench Pierce and Ray can't make it through two months, then I don't think Pietrus can save us.

Interesting that you're saying Pierce and Ray can't make it because Pietrus is a pretty fragile player over his career. He also has a negative assist to TO ratio, so he can't pass either

I'm not sure what that has to do with it. Posey and Tony Allen couldn't pass either, but they were huge for our success against good teams. Since we lost TA we have had a big void that Danny tried to fill with the Perkins trade and failed. Not having an athletic wing defender who can hit the three has been the single biggest hole on our team the last 3 years.

[hpantazo]

I don't know. He shot less than 40% last year and he's a career sub 70% ft shooter. Throw in the injury and there might be a reason he's available

of course there are reasons why he's available, but all we have to offer is the vet min and a chance to play with an aging group of hall of famers and a moody point guard in a cold city

Yeah....I'd rather give it to a hungry young guy than a hurt mediocre vet that other teams wanted no part of.  To me any vet we get needs to be better than Etwaun Moore. Or JuJuan Johnson. Or Avery Bradley. Otherwise I'm not sure what the point is.

He's not old, he's 29, and he is hungry, he gave up $$ in his buyout to have a chance to play for a contender. Also, the guys you mentioned won't be anywhere near Pietrus' ability to contribute   for another 2-3 years, if ever.

I just don't think a guy that can't shoot can help us. Maybe there's something I don't realize about his defense.

He's a lockdown wing defender, and he can shoot the 3. He killed us often enough with it for me to remember clearly, unfortunately.

I hope you are right

I hope I'm right only if he signs with us, if not then I hope I'm wrong

[Eja117]

I don't know. He shot less than 40% last year and he's a career sub 70% ft shooter. Throw in the injury and there might be a reason he's available

of course there are reasons why he's available, but all we have to offer is the vet min and a chance to play with an aging group of hall of famers and a moody point guard in a cold city

Yeah....I'd rather give it to a hungry young guy than a hurt mediocre vet that other teams wanted no part of.  To me any vet we get needs to be better than Etwaun Moore. Or JuJuan Johnson. Or Avery Bradley. Otherwise I'm not sure what the point is.

He's not old, he's 29, and he is hungry, he gave up $$ in his buyout to have a chance to play for a contender. Also, the guys you mentioned won't be anywhere near Pietrus' ability to contribute   for another 2-3 years, if ever.

I just don't think a guy that can't shoot can help us. Maybe there's something I don't realize about his defense.

huh? hes a career 36% three shooter I wouldnt say hes a guy who "cant shoot"

I guess you can make the argument that he had a down year from the field last year, but his ft% is pretty bad. It's not Rondo bad, but it's bad.  Most guys that shoot 3s hit around 33-35%, so 36% isn't exactly lighting the world on fire

[Eja117]

I don't know. He shot less than 40% last year and he's a career sub 70% ft shooter. Throw in the injury and there might be a reason he's available

Again, what are the options? Sure, he's not Paul Pierce; however, who else can we get for the minimum who can do what Pietrus does?

Answer: no one.

I just don't understand what people expect Danny to do.

Is Al Thornton still around? Is Anthony Parker? Wait for the China guys to get back or guys from Europe?

Now Parker, there is an example of an old, washed up guy. Thorton ain't coming for the vet min, and if we wait for the guys from China to maybe sign with us, Pierce and Ray will already have been run into the ground by Doc.

If with the current bench Pierce and Ray can't make it through two months, then I don't think Pietrus can save us.

Interesting that you're saying Pierce and Ray can't make it because Pietrus is a pretty fragile player over his career. He also has a negative assist to TO ratio, so he can't pass either

I'm not sure what that has to do with it. Posey and Tony Allen couldn't pass either, but they were huge for our success against good teams. Since we lost TA we have had a big void that Danny tried to fill with the Perkins trade and failed. Not having an athletic wing defender who can hit the three has been the single biggest hole on our team the last 3 years.

I guess if he buys into the defense thing and plays within his limits then he can help. 

[hpantazo]

I don't know. He shot less than 40% last year and he's a career sub 70% ft shooter. Throw in the injury and there might be a reason he's available

Again, what are the options? Sure, he's not Paul Pierce; however, who else can we get for the minimum who can do what Pietrus does?

Answer: no one.

I just don't understand what people expect Danny to do.

Is Al Thornton still around? Is Anthony Parker? Wait for the China guys to get back or guys from Europe?

Now Parker, there is an example of an old, washed up guy. Thorton ain't coming for the vet min, and if we wait for the guys from China to maybe sign with us, Pierce and Ray will already have been run into the ground by Doc.

If with the current bench Pierce and Ray can't make it through two months, then I don't think Pietrus can save us.

Interesting that you're saying Pierce and Ray can't make it because Pietrus is a pretty fragile player over his career. He also has a negative assist to TO ratio, so he can't pass either

I'm not sure what that has to do with it. Posey and Tony Allen couldn't pass either, but they were huge for our success against good teams. Since we lost TA we have had a big void that Danny tried to fill with the Perkins trade and failed. Not having an athletic wing defender who can hit the three has been the single biggest hole on our team the last 3 years.

I guess if he buys into the defense thing and plays within his limits then he can help. 

Yea, if he goes big baby davis on us and plays out of his limits I'm sure he'll be out of here quickly. Doc had enough of that last year.

[cman88]

I just think if you can get a player with his potential for the vet min you do it...hopefully the rumors are right and he signs with us

im not sure I want Marquis daniels/sasha pavlovic as the only guys off the bench guarding Lebron james/carmelo anthony/Deng

plus, having more 3 point shooters never hurts...I think Moore/bradley will still have their chance but pietrus can also move over to the 3 spot

[csfansince60s]

Sources say Suns have waived Mickael Pietrus, who has guaranteed salary of $5.3 million this season

Given Pietrus $5.3M salary, you figure he'll go unclaimed on waivers and become unrestricted free agent. Plain waived by Suns, NOT amnesty

- Marc Stein on Twitter


I would have wanted him on our team if he didn't have that knee issue.

Hypothetical Question: If you knew that you were being traded to the Toronto Raptors, how would your knee feel?

If Air France has expressed a desire to play here (read championship contender)how do you think he (his knee   )felt when he was gonna maybe end up on that crap team we just beat with our 3rd stringers.

Not saying that he personally misrepresented anything to the Raptors about his physical condition, necessarily. I'm sure that he was much more subtle than that.

Heh, I don't think Pietrus is that dishonest, but I like the way you think. 

Or perhaps he was brutally honest and told the Raptors that they weren't his preferred destination. (Which subsequent events seem to corroborate, including his desire to play with a specific contender which has two of his former teammates as backup pg and backup pf).

Raptors "get it" and use the slight knee swelling as an excuse to nix the deal. This avoids them having to negotiate the buyout and saves them face and money.

[Eja117]

Sources say Suns have waived Mickael Pietrus, who has guaranteed salary of $5.3 million this season

Given Pietrus $5.3M salary, you figure he'll go unclaimed on waivers and become unrestricted free agent. Plain waived by Suns, NOT amnesty

- Marc Stein on Twitter


I would have wanted him on our team if he didn't have that knee issue.

Hypothetical Question: If you knew that you were being traded to the Toronto Raptors, how would your knee feel?

If Air France has expressed a desire to play here (read championship contender)how do you think he (his knee   )felt when he was gonna maybe end up on that crap team we just beat with our 3rd stringers.

Not saying that he personally misrepresented anything to the Raptors about his physical condition, necessarily. I'm sure that he was much more subtle than that.

Heh, I don't think Pietrus is that dishonest, but I like the way you think. 

Or perhaps he was brutally honest and told the Raptors that they weren't his preferred destination. (Which subsequent events seem to corroborate, including his desire to play with a specific contender which has two of his former teammates as backup pg and backup pf).

Raptors "get it" and use the slight knee swelling as an excuse to nix the deal. This avoids them having to negotiate the buyout and saves them face and money.

Hmmmm....this post wins the Sherlock conspiracy theory of the day award. I like it