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Re: What is up with Jeff Green?
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2011, 12:48:20 PM »

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   It's likely that the contract didn't go through if he flunked his physical. If it did, though, is the exemption still half his salary? Because that could be up to $4.5M.


I believe the contract would be voided if he didn't pass the physical.  Don't think the injury exception would come into play.

My thoughts too.  I have a suspicion that his contract will NOT be finalized and will NOT go through due to this.  I bet we know by tomorrow.  9M + 9M luxury tax is an awfully big financial hit for an owner unless you truly believe you have a title contender.

Re: What is up with Jeff Green?
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2011, 12:51:56 PM »

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   It's likely that the contract didn't go through if he flunked his physical. If it did, though, is the exemption still half his salary? Because that could be up to $4.5M.


I believe the contract would be voided if he didn't pass the physical.  Don't think the injury exception would come into play.

My thoughts too.  I have a suspicion that his contract will NOT be finalized and will NOT go through due to this.  I bet we know by tomorrow.  9M + 9M luxury tax is an awfully big financial hit for an owner unless you truly believe you have a title contender.

  If you think the Celts want to back out of a contract they just agreed to because they suddenly feel that they aren't title contenders then you've probably been spending too much time on this blog.

Re: What is up with Jeff Green?
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2011, 12:54:41 PM »

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methinks there is something very wrong with jeff green

Re: What is up with Jeff Green?
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2011, 12:55:13 PM »

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I dont get it though...wat can jeff green have? Its got ti be heart issues oure something serious. He was out shooting a few days ago and saying hes fine..

Hopefully its not as bad as it seems

Re: What is up with Jeff Green?
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2011, 12:55:50 PM »

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   It's likely that the contract didn't go through if he flunked his physical. If it did, though, is the exemption still half his salary? Because that could be up to $4.5M.


I believe the contract would be voided if he didn't pass the physical.  Don't think the injury exception would come into play.

My thoughts too.  I have a suspicion that his contract will NOT be finalized and will NOT go through due to this.  I bet we know by tomorrow.  9M + 9M luxury tax is an awfully big financial hit for an owner unless you truly believe you have a title contender.

  If you think the Celts want to back out of a contract they just agreed to because they suddenly feel that they aren't title contenders then you've probably been spending too much time on this blog.


well, as others have said, it won't be a matter of the C's backing out of the contract.  there wouldn't be a contract.
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Re: What is up with Jeff Green?
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2011, 12:56:34 PM »

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   It's likely that the contract didn't go through if he flunked his physical. If it did, though, is the exemption still half his salary? Because that could be up to $4.5M.


I believe the contract would be voided if he didn't pass the physical.  Don't think the injury exception would come into play.

My thoughts too.  I have a suspicion that his contract will NOT be finalized and will NOT go through due to this.  I bet we know by tomorrow.  9M + 9M luxury tax is an awfully big financial hit for an owner unless you truly believe you have a title contender.

Certainly they wouldn't want to pay the money if Green isn't able to play.  The problem is replacing Green with the vet minimum.
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Re: What is up with Jeff Green?
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2011, 12:57:43 PM »

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I dont get it though...wat can jeff green have? Its got ti be heart issues oure something serious. He was out shooting a few days ago and saying hes fine..

Hopefully its not as bad as it seems

I hope it's nothing like this, but Reggie Lewis was playing all season long until he collapsed during a playoff game, and he was shooting around and felt fine until he dropped dead playing bball with some friends, so you never know.

Re: What is up with Jeff Green?
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2011, 01:07:07 PM »

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   It's likely that the contract didn't go through if he flunked his physical. If it did, though, is the exemption still half his salary? Because that could be up to $4.5M.


I believe the contract would be voided if he didn't pass the physical.  Don't think the injury exception would come into play.

My thoughts too.  I have a suspicion that his contract will NOT be finalized and will NOT go through due to this.  I bet we know by tomorrow.  9M + 9M luxury tax is an awfully big financial hit for an owner unless you truly believe you have a title contender.

Certainly they wouldn't want to pay the money if Green isn't able to play.  The problem is replacing Green with the vet minimum.

I think it will also be insurance issue. Dependng on what they find, 18 mil uninsured is a lot.


As for what it is, cant know. Could have been funny electrolytes indicating kidney or hormone disease. Could be hypertropic cardiomyopathy which is what reggie has and can happen in young healthy people. Heart valve disease. Who knows?

Re: What is up with Jeff Green?
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2011, 01:07:15 PM »

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   It's likely that the contract didn't go through if he flunked his physical. If it did, though, is the exemption still half his salary? Because that could be up to $4.5M.




I believe the contract would be voided if he didn't pass the physical.  Don't think the injury exception would come into play.

My thoughts too.  I have a suspicion that his contract will NOT be finalized and will NOT go through due to this.  I bet we know by tomorrow.  9M + 9M luxury tax is an awfully big financial hit for an owner unless you truly believe you have a title contender.

Certainly they wouldn't want to pay the money if Green isn't able to play.  The problem is replacing Green with the vet minimum.


Let me see if I understand this right.  If his contract is void Boston loses him and gets nothing to spend for a replacement because they are over the cap, but if they except the contract and put him on IR they will get 4.5 million to replacement.

To me if I was Danny/Owners and feal this is the Big 3's last go round wouldnt you chose option B.  I mean it is a lot to spend but in the end you will still have the rights to Jeff next year ( if healthy ) and you will have 4.5 million this year to spend on maybe AK47.

Re: What is up with Jeff Green?
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2011, 01:10:35 PM »

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   It's likely that the contract didn't go through if he flunked his physical. If it did, though, is the exemption still half his salary? Because that could be up to $4.5M.




It depends on how serious you think your chances are of winning with the current roster without Green.  If you accept his contract, and just get back 4.5 million, that means you're basically giving away 13.5 million for nothing whatsoever.  Unless you really think the team can win it all without Green, that doesnt make sense to me.
I believe the contract would be voided if he didn't pass the physical.  Don't think the injury exception would come into play.

My thoughts too.  I have a suspicion that his contract will NOT be finalized and will NOT go through due to this.  I bet we know by tomorrow.  9M + 9M luxury tax is an awfully big financial hit for an owner unless you truly believe you have a title contender.

Certainly they wouldn't want to pay the money if Green isn't able to play.  The problem is replacing Green with the vet minimum.


Let me see if I understand this right.  If his contract is void Boston loses him and gets nothing to spend for a replacement because they are over the cap, but if they except the contract and put him on IR they will get 4.5 million to replacement.

To me if I was Danny/Owners and feal this is the Big 3's last go round wouldnt you chose option B.  I mean it is a lot to spend but in the end you will still have the rights to Jeff next year ( if healthy ) and you will have 4.5 million this year to spend on maybe AK47.


Re: What is up with Jeff Green?
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2011, 01:11:41 PM »

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Re: What is up with Jeff Green?
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2011, 01:13:33 PM »

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   It's likely that the contract didn't go through if he flunked his physical. If it did, though, is the exemption still half his salary? Because that could be up to $4.5M.




I believe the contract would be voided if he didn't pass the physical.  Don't think the injury exception would come into play.

My thoughts too.  I have a suspicion that his contract will NOT be finalized and will NOT go through due to this.  I bet we know by tomorrow.  9M + 9M luxury tax is an awfully big financial hit for an owner unless you truly believe you have a title contender.

Certainly they wouldn't want to pay the money if Green isn't able to play.  The problem is replacing Green with the vet minimum.


Let me see if I understand this right.  If his contract is void Boston loses him and gets nothing to spend for a replacement because they are over the cap, but if they except the contract and put him on IR they will get 4.5 million to replacement.

To me if I was Danny/Owners and feal this is the Big 3's last go round wouldnt you chose option B.  I mean it is a lot to spend but in the end you will still have the rights to Jeff next year ( if healthy ) and you will have 4.5 million this year to spend on maybe AK47.


I'm not sure how the injury exemption works, but I don't think $4.5 mil would be enough to sign AK, unless he was being as charitable as he was in Russia (where apparently he's donating all his salary to charity).

Regardless, I don't think it would apply.  The whole reason Jeff Green is going through these physicals is to finalize his contract.  If he fails the physical, I can't see why the contract wouldn't be voided.
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Re: What is up with Jeff Green?
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2011, 01:17:02 PM »

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Re: What is up with Jeff Green?
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2011, 01:18:00 PM »

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  It's likely that the contract didn't go through if he flunked his physical. If it did, though, is the exemption still half his salary? Because that could be up to $4.5M.




I believe the contract would be voided if he didn't pass the physical.  Don't think the injury exception would come into play.

My thoughts too.  I have a suspicion that his contract will NOT be finalized and will NOT go through due to this.  I bet we know by tomorrow.  9M + 9M luxury tax is an awfully big financial hit for an owner unless you truly believe you have a title contender.

Certainly they wouldn't want to pay the money if Green isn't able to play.  The problem is replacing Green with the vet minimum.


Let me see if I understand this right.  If his contract is void Boston loses him and gets nothing to spend for a replacement because they are over the cap, but if they except the contract and put him on IR they will get 4.5 million to replacement.

To me if I was Danny/Owners and feal this is the Big 3's last go round wouldnt you chose option B.  I mean it is a lot to spend but in the end you will still have the rights to Jeff next year ( if healthy ) and you will have 4.5 million this year to spend on maybe AK47.


I'm not sure how the injury exemption works, but I don't think $4.5 mil would be enough to sign AK, unless he was being as charitable as he was in Russia (where apparently he's donating all his salary to charity).

Regardless, I don't think it would apply.  The whole reason Jeff Green is going through these physicals is to finalize his contract.  If he fails the physical, I can't see why the contract wouldn't be voided.

well, i think the suggestion is that the celtics could choose to honor the contract despite the physical, and just have jeff not play.

i disagree that ownership would consider paying a player $9 million and take an equal hit in luxury tax, without any insurance (since they knew about it prior to the contract), just to have a chance to pay another player $4.5 million, with an equal hit in luxury tax, all for a relatively small chance at a championship.  

(that's $27 million for a shot a championship, and we're talking about a bench player . . . not happening)


plus, i just don't think the league would give a team an injury exception if they signed a player that they knew wouldn't be able to play.  it just doesn't work that way.  no, if green is a no-go we're going to have to rely on a veteran minimum signing of somebody like DeShawn Stevenson or maybe Michael Redd.
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Re: What is up with Jeff Green?
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2011, 01:21:00 PM »

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Yeah, or "well, it's bad because he has X, but its good because this physical may have saved his life."

Yea, this doesn't sound good at all.

I'm trying to think of a positive phrase(for our basketball team) to satisfy that statement by Danny, and having many issues.

Jeff's health comes first and foremost...I really hope he is all right more than I care whether he can play basketball or not.